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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 02:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I bet there were stuff added to it. But Spendi wasn't in the American armed forces.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 02:29 pm
@talk72000,
I'll even wager he wasn't even in the British armed forces.
talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
He mentioned that he in the financial sector but he is funny as hell with his obtuse language.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yeah, you can do it on 3.2 if you can hold enough.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 02:35 pm
@roger,
roger, When I was stationed in Morocco (US Air Force), a bunch of us used to pile the empty cans in pyramid style, and it reached the ceiling - quite often in the one year I was stationed there.
talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 02:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I remeber on the campus dormitory guys rooms were filled with walls of their favorite beer cans usually Budweiser, Miller, etc.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 03:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
I'll even wager he wasn't even in the British armed forces.


Name your stakes ci. As much as you like. Put your money where your stupid gob is.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 04:10 pm
@spendius,
Okay, I'll wager you two Guinness.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 04:19 pm
@talk72000,
talk 72000 wrote:
GWB was a reign in terror as people are afraid for their jobs that disappeared because of his stupidity. His attacks on Muslim countries only made terrorism flourish and thus Americans are in terror of attacks. During Clinton years Americans were not afraid of attacks. Why even GWB was in kindergarten reading to kids. George Bush Senior made enemies everywhere in the Muslim world.

Yes, GWB acted stupidly. But GWB is no longer president. In fact, he ceased being president on January 20, 2009. Catch up with reality!

Yes, Barack Obama is acting far more stupidly.

Terrorism is flourishing in the middle east even more now that Barack Obama is President.

Barack Obama is not only emulating Bush's errors, he is expanding them.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 04:50 pm
@MontereyJack,
Again, If allowed to persist, leftists advocating socialism inevitably become corrupted by their power and establish dictatorships: for example, Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, et cetera ... Castro, Chavez ...

Obviously, the left is not based on citizen control of the state and decision-making. Instead the left if permitted power too long, becomes based on its own evolution of dictatorship. It mouths that it is for increasing citizen control of the state and its decision making, but actually it operates to reduce, not increase, citizen control of the state and its decision making.

You, and your leftist contemporaries, and like you your predecessors, believe that claims of intending betterment of the human race count for more than the reality of what the left actually did and does. You're mind is as manipulatable as were the minds of too many Germans under Hitler and too many Russians under Stalin.

I grew up observing the techniques now being used by the ODD (i.e., Obama Democrat Disassemblers) as the same as those techniques used by Hitler's and Stalin's disassemblers of their nations.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 05:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Okay, I'll wager you two Guinness.


I'm not revealing my identity for two pints of Guiness you silly moo. Your assets against mine. And you can have 33-1. Or 500,000-1 if you so choose.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 05:19 pm
@spendius,
Hey, spendi, that's my final offer; take it or leave it.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 05:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I've just proved the absolute, bottom line vacuity of one of your posts. It is but a short step to proving the rest are of the same ilk.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 05:57 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

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There are exceptions and variations in the application of these principles, but their validity is clear from the central tendency of historical examples.


But, George, the principles are at the mercy of the applications and the latter are subject to human nature in its present state. Human nature is conditioned by socialisation. Thus, I will argue, the problems you point to, which I agree are real enough, are the result of the socialisation rather than the principles.

The question is whether human nature can be altered to bring the principles to bear fruit.



During the 20th century various regimes including the Soviet Empire, Nazi Germany and Facist Italy and Comunist China, even Castro's socialist paradise in Cuba, invested enormous effort in altering the socialization of their citizens - in the USSR, China & Cuba, to create Lenin's "socialist man". Unfortunately, though they killed and imprisioned tens of millions of their citizens in the effort, they didn't succeed. Even after generations of tyrannical resocialization, human nature remained impervious to their heroic efforts to reform it, as the current citizens of those countries (except Cuba, which is still undergoing "resocialization" ) amply demonstrated when the chains were finally removed from their necks.

I don't believe you are seriously arguing to the contrary.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 06:00 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
During the 20th century various regimes including the Soviet Empire, Nazi Germany and Facist Italy and Comunist China, even Castro's socialist paradise in Cuba, invested enormous effort in altering the socialization of their citizens - in the USSR, China & Cuba, to create Lenin's "socialist man". Unfortunately, though they killed and imprisioned tens of millions of their citizens in the effort, they didn't succeed. Even after generations of tyrannical resocialization human nature remained impervious to their heroic efforts to reform it.
someone needs to point out this section of the history book to the Feminists and other leftist organizations which are currently on a full scale program to reform human nature to their desires.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 07:33 pm
@spendius,
One out of thousands that I have posted is a pretty good record, spendi. Your's has the opposite record.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 09:39 pm
@georgeob1,
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Many socialistic systems end up delivering only uniform poverty precisely because they inhibit innovation and investment that might lead to the expansion of net economic activity and wealth.


I have seen no evidence of "innovation" in American business.

Quote:
Free Market capatalism is subject to cycles and excesses in economic activity, and can lead to wide variations in the resulting distribution of wealth. However, in most cases it yields much higher mean and median incomes than do heavily regulated or socialistic systems.


80% of American incomes froze after 1979. Reagan became president in 1981 and started hacking away at regulations. What happened in the US contradicts your free market capitalism model.

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The textile and heavy manufacturing industries in this country were wiped out by cheap foreign competition and the actions of organized labor unions to achieve a greater degree of "equity" for their services.


Those industries were wiped out because of executive decisions. Seems to me that the conservatives use unions as their favorite whipping boy so they don't have to take personal responsibility.

plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 09:40 pm
@spendius,
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I'm in the highest.


Judging from your posts here, your income must consist of coupons that you clip.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 09:43 pm
@talk72000,
He reminds me of Bottom the Weaver.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2010 09:44 pm
@talk72000,
I remember window displays of beer cans that must have made nice curtain substitutes.
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