Where is the US economy headed?

politics as usual. I am so ******* sick of politics as usual that I could spit. Politics as usual is precisely why we won't get out of this recession any time soon. Everybody wants the problem to be someone else's fault. Play the blame game, get elected, get some jobs for yourself and your friends, and ride the pendulum until it swings back in the opposite direction.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE, OR WHAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE OR ARE DOING!!!! It's about an American populace who has bought in to a system that is no longer working. We have career politicians who look at their own reelection as the top priority of the day. It's all a gotcha game to them, and in the meantime the economy will continue to slide straight into the toilet regardless of who is in office.

Not in the right direction in any significant manner until we have an administration again that believes in capitalism, free enterprise, and the American people, and that will try to eliminate the adversarial relationship of government toward business that Obama has constructed.

Then do everyone a favor and ignore my posts. All you do is make a fool of yourself.

You could not be more wrong, JPB. It is all about Republicans and Democrats and what policies they support. Face it, parties stand for policies and they push policies, as part of the platforms they run on.

And your statement that the American people have bought into a system that is no longer working, that is a bizarre statement at best, and at worst is downright dangerous, especially if too many people begin to think it as you apprently do. What do you think is better, some two bit dictatorship?

Malignant capitalism has been a driver of the corruption of the political system, and the hollowing out of Americas economy. More of what has hurt us in not going to save us.

Your reply came too quickly after my post for you to have read it.

Somehow, the Republicans took eight years to make a mess of the country and you think it can be undone in six months.

You are totally illogical.

lol -- inhale, okie. Let's start with term limits and the end of career politicians. Let's find some folks who are willing to be public servants for the benefit of the public for a short period of time, say... I don't know... how 'bout no more than 12 years, or so.. before returning to their day jobs.

This wasn't 8 years in the making. More like 50, but I won't quibble over a year or two on either side of that.

Why are you disagreeing with JPB when he is saying what you so clumsily attempt to say?

No, that is a silly statement. It is increased socialism and a failed government with all of its entitlements that are watering down our economy to the point of having the country go broke in the not too distant future. The problem has never been the American people, their hard work, and their ingenuity, as expressed in the atmosphere of capitalism and freedom.

Okie... the point I'm trying to make is that those same hard working Americans voted for people and had trust in them to do the best job for the benefit of the people they represent. That hasn't been the case in a very long time - by politicians on either side of the aisle.

My ex signed my name to more than $100,000 worth of loans as though he had power-of-attorney, which he did not. He used the money to help fund business ventures in which he wanted to become involved as it was his desire to become VP of marketing for a corporation. He generally dislikes women and as his secret loans began to manifest themselves, he became more and more abusive toward our daughter.

How many more details would you like to know?

Picking the wrong man, yep, that goes far in explaining why you are he way you are.

A BTW to okie here:

I point out okie's errors in grammar and syntax. They are not typos because typos are not structural. Now, I wish I had a program to diagram sentences but I don't.

I have told okie many times that his knowledge of history is as limited as is his knowledge of government. He recounted the history and government classes he had and they were less than substantial. Others here have made the same observations.

okie has said that he writes about politics according to his own thoughts and definitions.

I have never called okie a liar.

He has called me a liar.

I can agree with that. I think its just a function of the cyclical nature of cultures, of societies, and countries, so how about 75 years or so, with the New Deal being a step into the wrong direction, a turning point in the cycle so to speak. LBJ's Great Society was another bad turn in the road.

I believe a country's economic condition actually starts with its moral condition, and we see that going in the wrong direction now for a very long time. Whenever a culture begins to look increasingly toward government instead of God for solving its problems, that is a big turn in the wrong direction. And so that is the question for our future, will the people continue to expect more and more out of government, or will they once again turn to themselves and their God to be responsible for themselves and their liberty and freedom, as the Declaration of Independence and Constitution laid the groundwork for.

What an ignorant and derogatory post, you should be ashamed of yourself. I think she has more insight and understanding of American politics than you could ever dream of attaining. I dont think she needs a man or the realisation of mans weakness to determine her views or her values.

I dont agree on any of the three counts. She has been around for awhile, and the posting history had always been a mystery to me, until now. I think that we are all trying to figure each other out, I make no apologies for doing so as well.

But why do you take my statement as a negative? Why do you assume that "the way you are" is a bad thing? This says more about you than me. I think that POM is a valuable member of the community, that she offers a view that no one else does, and she is active. I dont agree with a lot of what she says, but that makes no difference to me. I like to be stimulated, I like to have people around who dont agree with me.

as for saying that she picked the wrong man, that is obvious, and I doubt that POM would disagree with me on that.

My sympathies toward you, pom, if that is the truth, and somehow I think it probably is. However, there are often two sides to the story, but for the sake of this conversation I will take your word for it.
I don't need any more details.

pom, do you realize your ex-husband committed fraud and should be sitting in jail, that is if your story is correct. I hope at the very least that you got your name taken out of being responsible for the fraudulant loans? By the way, there is something fishy about your Power of Attorney claim, a Power of Attorney has to be signed and notarized, pom, your ex-husband cannot simply present himself as your POA without the appropriate paperwork and proof of it. You would have to have signed the paperwork, that is unless you are declared incompetent by a doctor or doctors. And any bank that lends money based upon fraudulant papers would also be liable for that money as well. Have you looked into all of the details of all of this? This all sounds sort of fishy to me.

It does make me wonder if you are needing some whipping boys to take out your lingering anger over your failed marriage, pom? I would suggest that you picking on folks here on this forum for inconsequential and imagined things will not help you. Perhaps you need the counseling to find out why you were drawn to a personality that was apparently highly flawed and dishonest, even corrupt? I find it interesting you have accused me of being abusive, while it was really your husband it is now revealed from you that you claim to have been abusive, that is if your story is accurate.

pom, perhaps my attitude toward you could change from being a political adversary to the idea that you need help, and if there is any way I can encourage you in the right direction, I would like to do that.

Produce one shred of evidence, or have the decency to apologize, pom.

To imply that an intelligent women has been influenced by a bum of a husband in her political opinions and not by her reasoned logic is tantamount to ignorance. I wonder if your views have been influenced because some socialist twig did not find you attractive?