Where is the US economy headed?

Ask Cicerone, I doubt that he will tell you since he only converses with far left wingers.

@genoves,

genoves wrote:

Ask Cicerone, I doubt that he will tell you since he only converses with far left wingers.

No. You made the comment that I didn't understand. What did you mean?
I don't think Cicerone or anyone else should explain it.

0 Replies

@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

genoves wrote:

Why Cicerone is a very loyal person! That is why he would buy a Japanese Car!

That went totally over my head, genoves. Please explain.
Thank you.

That was the comment that I was asking about.

1 Reply

@mysteryman,

Regarding Genoves (aka Brandon, et al.), I am through feeding the troll. I recommend all you do similar.

2 Replies

@Advocate,

Good advice.

0 Replies

@Advocate,

The reason you are through feeding the troll is that you fear me. You cannot discuss rationally with me and I have eviscerated almost every argument you have put up. Like Cicerone Imposter, you are one of the group of chimpanzees which groom each other. I will continue to show how you and others are wrong most of the time. You may not read it but others will.

If you cheat and peek at my posts destroying yours, please do not defecate in your trousers in fear!

0 Replies

@Advocate,

Advocate shows again why he is almost completely ignorant about Unions. He obviously is not well enough informed. He should quit the comic books.
Of course, he is not conversant with unions in state and local governments. He probably cannot read better than a sixth grader.

ANYONE who reads the major papers( NY Times, USA Today, Wall Street Journal) knows that teacher strikes have taken place all over the USA for many years. Advocate is so ignorant that he does not know that these teacher unions, who obviously have members who have done a very poor job( check the ranking of our students with European students in math or science) are protected by BO since the Unions have given BO Millions for his pre-election campaign.

Okie is right about Unions. Advocate knows nothing about them!

0 Replies

@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

The dealer network was going to shrink anyways, but the manufactures are forcing the issue so that 1) they can cut faster than the marketplace would have 2) they can cut deeper than the market place would have and 3) they can pick the winners and losers instead of letting the marketplace do so.

I think thats a mistake, hawkeye. I think its better to let the marketplace do the cutting. After all, if the dealer makes money, even if it isn't much, why cut him? That seems foolish. I can cite many examples, but a simple one is loss leaders. Loss leaders are good to have in a store to draw customers. And perhaps marginal dealers are not a bad deal simply to maintain a customer base, geographically. Another example, airlines, a few routes may lose money, but they might be important to feed passengers into flights that do make money.

I used to work for a corporation, and the first knee jerk reaction they have is to cut down at the bottom first, but what really needed cutting was up the ladder a ways, overloaded upper and middle management. I know they may have done some of this, but is it enough? The dealers are the bread and butter of the company, the skeleton or the bone structure of the company, its where the company meets the public, and that is the most critical of all. If you gut that part of the company, you risk doing alot of damage. I still think the problem lies in manufacturing and management, not sales. The sales part of it can be reformed, restructured, but I think gutting it is a huge mistake. I could be wrong.

1 Reply

@okie,

I have no relevant information about your conclusion, Okie but since you have experience in the field, I am sure you are correct. I wonder if BO is smart enought to realize how many people will be thrown out of work because of the dealer cuts? I would not be surprised to see a 9.5% Unemployment Rate in the beginning of June. Many of these people will be very angry that the Messiah is not parting the Red Sea but is rather letting them drown. Some of them voted for BO, but I am sure that those who are out of work in November 2010 will not vote for a Democrat( unless he or she actively opposes BO's abortive proposals.

1 Reply

@genoves,

People wanted "change," so they are getting it.

0 Replies

Good evening to yall. Shifting the topic here, tomorrow voters in CA will decide on 6 initiatives to try to put a band-aid on the state's huge budget deficit. I read through a bunch of stuff today. It looks to me to be little more than the proverbial rearranging of the deck chairs on the Titantic. I see it as 1-5 or at most 2-4 and CA will come begging to the U.S. Treasury for something like $50B.
How do yall see it as playing out?
Thank you. -rjb-

2 Replies

@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

Good evening to yall. Shifting the topic here, tomorrow voters in CA will decide on 6 initiatives to try to put a band-aid on the state's huge budget deficit. I read through a bunch of stuff today. It looks to me to be little more than the proverbial rearranging of the deck chairs on the Titantic. I see it as 1-5 or at most 2-4 and CA will come begging to the U.S. Treasury for something like $50B.
How do yall see it as playing out?
Thank you. -rjb-

These elections/initiatives are so sparsely voted on, I'd be surprised if even 2% of the population shows up to vote. CA's governmental system is f'ed up and should be re-written from the bottom up.

Cycloptichorn

2 Replies

@Cycloptichorn,

I thought it was up bottom.

0 Replies

@Cycloptichorn,

And Cyclopitchorn is praying that his cubicle in the People's Republic of Berkeley will not be shut down.

0 Replies

Okie-watch the huge rise in Unemployment the first week of June when the report comes out.

. I wonder if BO is smart enought to realize how many people will be thrown out of work because of the dealer cuts? I would not be surprised to see a 9.5% Unemployment Rate in the beginning of June. Many of these people will be very angry that the Messiah is not parting the Red Sea but is rather letting them drown. Some of them voted for BO, but I am sure that those who are out of work in November 2010 will not vote for a Democrat( unless he or she actively opposes BO's abortive proposals.

1 Reply

Okie wrote:

People wanted "change," so they are getting it.

end of quote

Some say they only thing they have left is "change" Pocket change that is.

Obama is corrupt. Most people who live in or near Chicago know that he received a real piece of "change" from the machinations of one of his closest political allies, Anton Rezko. Rezko has been convicted of being a political fixer.
He saw to it that OBAMA paid thousands of dollars less for his Chicago Mansion than he would have without Rezko's intercession.

The public pays and will pay through the nose. Obama gets away with thousands. As John Kass, Chief Chicago Tribune Columnist has said--
Obama had a "real estate fairy" helping him--Anton Rezko.

And, we, Okie, are left with "change"--pocket change.

0 Replies

@realjohnboy,

Quote:

Good evening to yall. Shifting the topic here, tomorrow voters in CA will decide on 6 initiatives to try to put a band-aid on the state's huge budget deficit. I read through a bunch of stuff today. It looks to me to be little more than the proverbial rearranging of the deck chairs on the Titantic. I see it as 1-5 or at most 2-4 and CA will come begging to the U.S. Treasury for something like $50B.
How do yall see it as playing out?
Thank you. -rjb-

California is in this mess because of decades of refusing to connect their behaviour rationally to reality. They don't seem ready to learn yet. Let us remember California style trumping of reality with ideology was the birthplace for Reaganism and the modern conservative movement, as well as the green movement.

Both the leaders and the citizens have long been AWOL, this disaster does not get fixed until enough pain has been absorbed that the people in that state decide to reform themselves.

2 Replies

@genoves,

genoves wrote:

(W)atch the huge rise in Unemployment the first week of June when the report comes out....9.5%.

I'll bite. I love games. The official rate as of May is 8.9%. A bogus number, yadda, yadda. The rate in June will be 9.0%.

1 Reply

@realjohnboy,

Ok, John Boy. I will remind you when the report comes out. Are you forgetting the thousands who work at Automobile agencies who will be out of work soon?

Are you forgetting the industries and people who supply those agencies?

It will be closer to 9.5% than 9.0%. I am very much afraid that you do not read good sources on the economy.

1 Reply

@genoves,

Any other predictions from yall? The % will be out around 6/5.

1 Reply

Where is the US economy headed?

Related Topics

Quick Links

My Account

able2know