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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 01:47 pm
But that is circumvented by big money who contribute to their representatives; money talks in Washington and in local politics.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 02:09 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
But that is circumvented by big money who contribute to their representatives; money talks in Washington and in local politics.


when monied interests became such a large stakeholder in politics the citizen who has only one vote had his power diluted. There are people with money who work against the corporate class, but in almost all cases the money was accumulated by them or their relative by way of participation in the corporate structure. Only those who won the lottery, won a judgment in court for wrong done to them, or are part of the professional class (doctors, lawyers and such) have money that is independent of the corporate class. almost all who have money have an interest in perpetuating the corporate structure, even those who took the money and then work against the corporate structure out of guilt.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 02:23 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
teenyboone wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Another reason I posted the above article is that our ZIP code has shown an increase in sales by 18%, the only one in Santa Clara County for the last reporting period (last May vs this May). Many are showing sales decreases as much as 65%. The overall bad news is that our county had 213% increase in defaults, 542% increase in forclosure sales, and 546% increase in sales value.

CI,
I'm just thankful! Nothing has gone right since Nov. 2000! I'm not in the best of health, but I'm thankful, as hell! Now, on to November, unless, we get an October surprise! :wink:


In politics, almost anything is possible. I think most Americans are disgusted with the current administration and their handling of our economy - even republicans (they're not all wealthy like some on a2k who continued to tell us our economy is just fine), and many will be voting for Obama.


CI:
I'm inclined to agree, but like some, they'd never vote for him, anyway! :wink:
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Miller
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 02:28 pm
The average food-stamp recipient in Chicago receives $369/month to "supplement" their income.

And...still they want more.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 02:30 pm
Miller wrote:
The average food-stamp recipient in Chicago receives $369/month to "supplement" their income.

And...still they want more.

So where do you live? South Side? Cool
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 02:33 pm
Miller wrote:
The average food-stamp recipient in Chicago receives $369/month to "supplement" their income.

And...still they want more.


That translates to $12.30/day. If spent wisely, that can buy enough food for one.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 02:53 pm
the calculator is here http://www.illinoislegalaid.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.dsp_content&contentID=871

for three the max (which I believe few people get) is $426 which equals $4.75 per person per day. remember that in many areas of the city supermarkets pulled out decades ago, walmarts never moved in, so the choice is buying from high priced small local markets or finding a car and driving to another part of the city. $4.75 does not go very far.
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Miller
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:03 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Miller wrote:
The average food-stamp recipient in Chicago receives $369/month to "supplement" their income.

And...still they want more.


That translates to $12.30/day. If spent wisely, that can buy enough food for one.



Anyone will some intelligence can make do on $25/week. Why should those on welfare be receiving more? Don't they know how to cook?
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Miller
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:06 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
in many areas of the city supermarkets pulled out decades ago...


They did the right thing. Same reason why black Walgreen pharmacists don't want to work in pharmacies in black Chicago neighborhoods.

Can't blame them...
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Miller
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:08 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
finding a car and driving to another part of the city.


So what's wrong with the CTA buses and the EL-?
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Miller
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:11 pm
Why were all the customers shown at "One-Stop" in Chicago, spending their food stamps, obese?

Maybe these folks are overfed... Could be these folks don't really need food-stamps...
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:19 pm
Miller wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Miller wrote:
The average food-stamp recipient in Chicago receives $369/month to "supplement" their income.

And...still they want more.


That translates to $12.30/day. If spent wisely, that can buy enough food for one.



Anyone will some intelligence can make do on $25/week. Why should those on welfare be receiving more? Don't they know how to cook?


You couldn't buy "squat" with $25.00, here on the East Coast! I shop in an Army Commissary and couldn't live on $25.00 in THERE! I'd have to buy ALL canned goods, mostly vegetables and fruit! Don't know how Chicago is laid out. I've only been to Napierville, in the suburbs to take a class and flew out of Midway back to Newark! You can't get to NY and back on $25.00. That's how much train fare has gone up! Sorry, I'm Black, but far from poor and can't imagine living on $25.00! You've lost me! Cool
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:22 pm
$25/week means peanut butter sandwiches every day/7days/week, but you still have to watch what kind of bread you buy.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:25 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
$25/week means peanut butter sandwiches every day/7days/week, but you still have to watch what kind of bread you buy.

Okay, I forgot that! Yeah, peanut butter and bread being expensive too, I'd have to find a bakery outlet, if such a thing exists in Chicago! Crying or Very sad
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:26 pm
Miller wrote:
Why were all the customers shown at "One-Stop" in Chicago, spending their food stamps, obese?

Maybe these folks are overfed... Could be these folks don't really need food-stamps...


Because the alternative to the torture of finding a supermarket and getting what healthy cheap food is to be found is to go to fast food places and order the heart attack fare that makes up the dollar menus. which is what they do.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:27 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
Miller wrote:
Why were all the customers shown at "One-Stop" in Chicago, spending their food stamps, obese?

Maybe these folks are overfed... Could be these folks don't really need food-stamps...


Because the alternative to the torture of finding a supermarket and getting what healthy cheap food is to be found is to go to fast food places and order the heart attack fare that makes up the dollar menus. which is what they do.

So, are you a "ghetto" dweller? Rolling Eyes
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:42 pm
teenyboone wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
Miller wrote:
Why were all the customers shown at "One-Stop" in Chicago, spending their food stamps, obese?

Maybe these folks are overfed... Could be these folks don't really need food-stamps...


Because the alternative to the torture of finding a supermarket and getting what healthy cheap food is to be found is to go to fast food places and order the heart attack fare that makes up the dollar menus. which is what they do.

So, are you a "ghetto" dweller? Rolling Eyes


No, I am however well educated so I know how other people live.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:55 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
teenyboone wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
Miller wrote:
Why were all the customers shown at "One-Stop" in Chicago, spending their food stamps, obese?

Maybe these folks are overfed... Could be these folks don't really need food-stamps...


Because the alternative to the torture of finding a supermarket and getting what healthy cheap food is to be found is to go to fast food places and order the heart attack fare that makes up the dollar menus. which is what they do.

So, are you a "ghetto" dweller? Rolling Eyes


No, I am however well educated so I know how other people live.

But are you in Chicago? I have no idea how one lives there and this seems to be the subject!
:wink:
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 04:02 pm
teenyboone wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
teenyboone wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
Miller wrote:
Why were all the customers shown at "One-Stop" in Chicago, spending their food stamps, obese?

Maybe these folks are overfed... Could be these folks don't really need food-stamps...


Because the alternative to the torture of finding a supermarket and getting what healthy cheap food is to be found is to go to fast food places and order the heart attack fare that makes up the dollar menus. which is what they do.

So, are you a "ghetto" dweller? Rolling Eyes


No, I am however well educated so I know how other people live.

But are you in Chicago? I have no idea how one lives there and this seems to be the subject!
:wink:


It does not matter how I know what I know, what matters is if I am right or wrong. But to answer your question I grew up in Rockford, and spent a lot of my free time exploring chicago. Over the years I have worked with/been friends with five people who grew up on the south side, most of them in the projects. We talk, I learn.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 04:35 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
teenyboone wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
teenyboone wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
Miller wrote:
Why were all the customers shown at "One-Stop" in Chicago, spending their food stamps, obese?

Maybe these folks are overfed... Could be these folks don't really need food-stamps...


Because the alternative to the torture of finding a supermarket and getting what healthy cheap food is to be found is to go to fast food places and order the heart attack fare that makes up the dollar menus. which is what they do.

So, are you a "ghetto" dweller? Rolling Eyes


No, I am however well educated so I know how other people live.

But are you in Chicago? I have no idea how one lives there and this seems to be the subject!/quote]

It does not matter how I know what I know, what matters is if I am right or wrong. But to answer your question I grew up in Rockford, and spent a lot of my free time exploring chicago. Over the years I have worked with/been friends with five people who grew up on the south side, most of them in the projects. We talk, I learn.


I can't say, can I? You seem to know all of the answers but I did know several engineers, I worked with from the Chicago area, educated in Catholic schools like myself, very well educated, knew OF but not FROM, the ghetto!

Brilliant scholars! You seem to give the impression, that Black folks aren't all that smart, when it comes to budgeting YOUR tax dollar, huh? I just beg to differ and that you presented the usual stereotype; one of them! A "look at them", scenario! How dare you! Evil or Very Mad
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