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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2013 07:45 pm
@spendius,
Not really; for the US, interest rates are at their lowest levels, but by all indications - including the improvement in our economy, interest rates can only increase from this point.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2013 11:08 pm
@spendius,
Thats fact.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 01:41 am
Quote:

Obama’s approval drops as Americans take a dimmer view of his economic policies

The afterglow of President Obama’s reelection and inauguration appears to have vanished as increasingly negative views among Americans about his stewardship of the economy have forced his public approval rating back down to the 50 percent mark, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

In December, just after he won a second term, Obama held an 18-percentage-point advantage over congressional Republicans on the question of whom the public trusted more to deal with the economy. Now, it’s a far more even split — 44 percent to 40 percent, with a slight edge for the president — but the share of those saying they have confidence in “neither” has ticked up into double digits.

The poll contains ample evidence of the disillusionment voters feel toward both sides amid a sense of continuing dysfunction in Washington, which since December has been grappling with fiscal crises and deadlines of its own making.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-approval-drops-as-americans-take-a-dimmer-view-of-his-economic-policies/2013/03/12/4ddfd240-8a79-11e2-a051-6810d606108d_story.html

as per usual we see Hawkeye ahead of the power curve.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 01:53 am
@hawkeye10,
According to Gallup, it's 49% approval and 44% disapproval.

We'll need to see the 'average' from all polls.

Republicans have a 20% approval rating, so Obama's 49% doesn't look bad at all!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 01:59 am
@cicerone imposter,
From Huff Post.
Quote:
The Republican Party's approval rating has sunk amid wrangling over the fiscal cliff and looming debt ceiling, according to a NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Thursday.

The poll found that 49 percent of respondents have a negative view of the GOP, the highest negative marks for the party in the poll since 2008. Just 26 percent said they have a positive view of the Republican Party.

In contrast, 44 percent of adults surveyed said they have a positive view of the Democratic Party, while 38 percent have a negative one.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 02:48 am
@cicerone imposter,
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The poll found that 49 percent of respondents have a negative view of the GOP, the highest negative marks for the party in the poll since 2008. Just 26 percent said they have a positive view of the Republican Party.

In contrast, 44 percent of adults surveyed said they have a positive view of the Democratic Party, while 38 percent have a negative one.

are you even a little worried that only 7 in 10 think well of either of their two choices? how high does "none of the above" need to get to till the revolution commences?
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 05:31 am
@hawkeye10,
How do you define the sort of revolution you have in mind hawk?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 09:36 am
@hawkeye10,
Not worried; dumbfounded! It's the American voters who elect our representatives into our government; it's their choice, so there's nothing I can do.

Why worry about something I have no control over? That would be quite stupid.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 12:58 pm
(Dusting this thread off)
The EU's "rescue" of Cyprus may work. I doubt it. And the proposed but abandoned seizure of a portion of small depositors' accounts is troubling, to say the least. It suggests just how far governments might go to prop up banks deemed to be too big to fail.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 01:14 pm
@realjohnboy,
I agree, John, that there's no possible way for any "rescue" plan to work in Cyprus. I was there recently, and it didn't "look" they were in that much of a straits when observed as a tourist.

I just wonder when their currency value is going to be reduced more than the 6% from their highs?
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 01:58 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



Obamanomics and the rising cost of gas in the US will further damage our economy...

Gas prices on the rise again

WHAT’S GOING ON WITH THE PRICE OF GAS?


Today's local price: $3.25 vs $3.60 five weeks ago. Is Obama still to blame?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 02:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
I just wonder when their currency value is going to be reduced more than the 6% from their highs?


This is the problem, their currency is the euro, it can't be devalued while Germany is doing so well.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 02:04 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

(Dusting this thread off)
The EU's "rescue" of Cyprus may work. I doubt it. And the proposed but abandoned seizure of a portion of small depositors' accounts is troubling, to say the least.


Deposits in excess of 100,000 euros are not usually considered small. Cyprus was guilty of casino banking, paying high interest rates to wealthy foreigners. Why should Germany pay to secure the riches of wealthy Russians?

Rich bankers caused the meltdown, and the rich have largely gone unscathed, it's about time they had to bear some of the cost.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 02:11 pm
@izzythepush,
It's impossible for Germany to prop up all the weak Euro countries; they're just not that big or strong economically. Their current GDP growth and population can't keep expanding to support Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Cyprus; that's impossible.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 02:40 pm
@izzythepush,
The Chairman of the German Stock Exchange called the proposed confiscations "efficient". And so they are.

That a good slice of the debts are the same money that is in those accounts to be "taxed" is a situation which we are all in except insofar as our deposit accounts are not, so far at least, to be taxed in this way. Fair or not fair is a political question.

But the "efficiency" question cannot be in doubt. There is a chance, a not all that unlikely a chance, that any other method will actually be counter-productive and increase the debt. And, as the Chairman of the Stock Exchange pointed out, the debt has to be paid.

The Romans used the method when their feet were to the fire although their method, proscription, was a bit too inhumane for the modern world. The "rich" cannot handle the forces of law and order as the poor can if push comes to shove.

Perhaps we should all consider the policy. It would surely win a lot of votes if it was to be proposed astutely. A one off payment by those who got rich in the boom which has brought us to this pass. Especially as the warnings that the boom in debt was dangerous were put on Ignore in the years immediately preceeding 2008 by those who were riding it and their lickspittles and lackeys in Media which was in on it.

And there were plenty of warnings.

So much for the Ignore principle. "It's the economy--stupid" is a faithful rendering of the democracy principle. I would go as far as to say that our leaders in recent years were elected under false pretences and if they didn't know it they were incompetent.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 03:56 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Deposits in excess of 100,000 euros are not usually considered small. Cyprus was guilty of casino banking, paying high interest rates to wealthy foreigners. Why should Germany pay to secure the riches of wealthy Russians?

the Cyprus banks took a lot of Hot Money and it is mostly that which is being confiscated here. The EU bosses think that they can get away with this but this on top of the Swiss Banks actions of the last few years drives the lesson that European banks can not be trusted.

This does not end well for EU advocates or any of us. the old world order continues to crumble.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 04:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
I'm sure it will be safe to put your money in Chinese banks instead of Europe.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 04:40 pm
@parados,
The pundits are saying that China's economy will grow at 8.5% this year; much better than most of the other developed countries.

China's problem is their excess holding of US bonds that are paying close to nothing. They can't very well market those, because flooding the market will only drop their value.

Remember what happened to Japan before their economy tanked?
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 06:16 pm
@hawkeye10,
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This does not end well for EU advocates or any of us. the old world order continues to crumble.


The Russians are already making noises about retaliation against European companies which have invested in Russia. Sabre rattling so to speak.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 07:02 pm
Some see the recent activities as a gambit to get Cypress to mortgage its gas reserves - scheduled to come on line in 2018, as I recall. Russia may beat them to the punch, though. Aljazeera has a blog on that today.
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