Has PC gone to far?

Dookiestix wrote:

... But I also think that this particular case is SO bizarre on so many levels. I would imagine most would agree.

You'll get no argument from me on that ... bizarre is if anything a word inadequate to describe the whole incomprehensible deal.

Had it not actually happened, I doubt it could have been sold as a plotline for a 2cnd-string TV show.

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Well, why I don't agree with one lone person (male or female) escorting this guy, I think that hand cuffs would have went a long way in keeping this from happening.

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Had it not actually happened, I doubt it could have been sold as a plotline for a 2cnd-string TV show

But now that it has happened, how long before we see something similar on one of the Law and Order shows?

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Um, wasn't the subject of this read about being too PC? Did you read the rest?

I'm mearly pointing out all the other elements involved in the Nichols story. And Malkin's take on that photo op is related to the PC question.

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And my point on how bizarre this all is plays right into the extraordinary circumstances regarding this particular case, which IMO is not necessarily germaine to the subject of this thread.

And there must be some reason as to WHY he didn't have handcuffs (I didn't know that). Is he just that psychotic to one second seem harmless, then be a ruthless murderer, and then end up having a talk about spirituality with his hostage for several hours, letting her go, and surrendering peacefully to authorities after what he had just done.

Once again, not the best example regarding the subject of this thread.

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Wow! Nobody was watching the screens, either.

Could it be because he was on trial for rape rather than for murder?

And how PC is THAT? Isn't rape ALSO a rather violent crime, requiring shackles? Or was it the circumstances regarding the rape crime (i.e., too many questions rather than an obvious ?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20050314/ap_on_re_us/courthouse_shooting_security

So many questions, yes?

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tommrr wrote:

Well, why I don't agree with one lone person (male or female) escorting this guy, I think that hand cuffs would have went a long way in keeping this from happening.

Don't you think a male closer to this guys size would have had a better chance of fighting this guy off then the smaller weaker female watching him?

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Don't you think a male closer to this guys size would have had a better chance of fighting this guy off then the smaller weaker female watching him?

Of course a male that was closer in size would have had a better chance against the guy, but I think the outcome would have been the same. Here is a guy, that was just days before, caught trying to smuggle a shank into the courtroom, being escorted by ONE person, and he was not handcuffed. I would think that common sense should prevail here. But as I have learned, PC trumps common sense these days.
I have long believed that we are taking PC too far. Now that it has proved to be harmful, do you think we may actually change? Doubt it.
Where in the constitution does it say that we are promised the right of not being offended, or having our feelings hurt? We need to get over it and just do what is right, and don't give in to the whiners.

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tommrr wrote:

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Don't you think a male closer to this guys size would have had a better chance of fighting this guy off then the smaller weaker female watching him?

Of course a male that was closer in size would have had a better chance against the guy, but I think the outcome would have been the same. Here is a guy, that was just days before, caught trying to smuggle a shank into the courtroom, being escorted by ONE person, and he was not handcuffed. I would think that common sense should prevail here. But as I have learned, PC trumps common sense these days.
I have long believed that we are taking PC too far. Now that it has proved to be harmful, do you think we may actually change? Doubt it.
Where in the constitution does it say that we are promised the right of not being offended, or having our feelings hurt? We need to get over it and just do what is right, and don't give in to the whiners.

You know it never will. When they start limiting the type of information in history books to reflect the founding of our country you know we have crossed a line that is almost impossible to cross back. When they start handing out tests that don't let children use their imaginations you know we are in trouble. Most tests do not allow children who live in warm climates imagine what they would do on a snow day; kids who live in the ghetto are to write anything about living in the country or even imagine what it is like. PC is killing the creativity in out future leaders.

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Baldimo wrote:

Most tests do not allow children who live in warm climates imagine what they would do on a snow day; kids who live in the ghetto are to write anything about living in the country or even imagine what it is like.

Most tests also don't ask suburban kids to imagine what it would be like to live in housing projects or to stand in line at a welfare office.

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Well they should then. That would make more sense then removing the other stuff.

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FREEZE! I JUST HAD MY NAILS DONE!

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Ticomaya wrote:

How many people have to die before the country stops humoring feminists? Last week, a defendant in a rape case, Brian Nichols, wrested a gun from a female deputy in an Atlanta courthouse and went on a murderous rampage

Tico's posted article is a valid point, if phrased somewhat undiplomatically. From what I've heard police procedure is that male officers always handle male offenders, political correctness be damned as it should have been in this case..

A good friend of mine worked at a porn store/dancing girl combination, which only hired men (usually unobviously gay for other safety reasons) to work behind counter because if someone was likely to harrass the female performers they would be more likely to harass the female workers as well. Such a safeguard (only hiring gay male workers who looked tough) could be tackled as discrimination, even when it is for the safety of -all- workers.

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Baldimo

The results of your poll offer great support for your argument.........Has PC gone too far? 78% said yes. I'm a new guy but I have read enough here to form the opinion that a high percentage of the participants of this great forum are left of center politically and if even they say PC has gone too far then you can put it in the bank.

The only bit of opinion that I would like to add is this:
Political correctness has been caused by the death of common sense and the inability of our free and open society to deal with the tyranny of the minorities.

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Ticomaya wrote:

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FREEZE! I JUST HAD MY NAILS DONE!

This is one great article and gets to the point of the issue.

Bookmark!

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rayban1 wrote:

The results of your poll offer great support for your argument.........Has PC gone too far? 78% said yes. I'm a new guy but I have read enough here to form the opinion that a high percentage of the participants of this great forum are left of center politically...

Had you been here a little longer you'd have noticed that none of the particularly "left of the centre" forumers have posted here and presumably few have voted on the poll. I mean, hell, if you ask me I'd have voted yes (but didn't answer the poll) but you're reading a little too much into a thread that most left-aligned people would avoid like the plague due to the title.

Besides, the question is so general as to be nearly useless. It's almost truistic to accept the excesses of PC these days. Had it been a question more like "Has PC become a problem?", "Do we need to cut back PC?", etc. then we would got more meaningful responses.

... Nothing personal, I'm just a technicalities person.

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I'm just too all agog to respond.

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theantibuddha wrote:

rayban1 wrote:
The results of your poll offer great support for your argument.........Has PC gone too far? 78% said yes. I'm a new guy but I have read enough here to form the opinion that a high percentage of the participants of this great forum are left of center politically...

Had you been here a little longer you'd have noticed that none of the particularly "left of the centre" forumers have posted here and presumably few have voted on the poll. I mean, hell, if you ask me I'd have voted yes (but didn't answer the poll) but you're reading a little too much into a thread that most left-aligned people would avoid like the plague due to the title.

Besides, the question is so general as to be nearly useless. It's almost truistic to accept the excesses of PC these days. Had it been a question more like "Has PC become a problem?", "Do we need to cut back PC?", etc. then we would got more meaningful responses.

... Nothing personal, I'm just a technicalities person.

While the question was a little general, it did allow for some examples to be brought up, which they were. If you would like, I could provide some more examples?

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Baldimo wrote:

While the question was a little general, it did allow for some examples to be brought up, which they were. If you would like, I could provide some more examples?

Oh no, fantastic for the thread. Promoted some good and interesting discussion, just saying not to read too much into the poll results. You're welcome to share some examples though, they trigger even more discussion and exaggerated PC tends to be quite humorous.

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theantibuddha wrote:

Baldimo wrote:
While the question was a little general, it did allow for some examples to be brought up, which they were. If you would like, I could provide some more examples?

Oh no, fantastic for the thread. Promoted some good and interesting discussion, just saying not to read too much into the poll results. You're welcome to share some examples though, they trigger even more discussion and exaggerated PC tends to be quite humorous.

Antibuddha;

You are perceptive.......I don't know all the personalities yet and yes I should have known that left of center folks would avoid the shallowness of the question like the plague!

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