Shep Smith: Journalists are not the enemy of the people

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I don't cling to anything, really.

You have made a 180 degree turn, solely because, the science and the evidence against the USGOCT was too damning .

You did exactly what vikorr did, your intellectual cowardliness and the high levels of cognitive dissonance had you two, and others do your 180s.

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I read and contemplate all possibilities that come to my attention, ...

A total lie. You never once addressed any of the impossibilities of the USGOCT. You, and everyone else, knows that to do so means eliminating the impossible, the USGOCT.

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. -- Arthur Conan Doyle

The lie about hijackers is impossible, so we can eliminate them from the 9/11 scenario. What remains is the unimpeachable evidence against whatever portion of the US government it was that blew up WTCs 1, 2 & 7 with US nanothermite.

We know this was the case on 9/11 because both unreacted particles of US nanothermite and the by products of those explosions were found in abundance in WTC dust.

You do know that nanothermite can be painted or sprayed on and ignited by various remote control signals. It can be tailored to be as noisy or as quiet as one likes.

What your post fails to reflect is that the planes could have been hijacked AND there could have also been people in government collaborating with them. What's more, the people collaborating in government might have been doing so covertly, so it would then be incorrect to suggest it was some kind of conspiracy where everyone in the government was involved.

You keep talking in terms of collective unity of macro entities like "the US attacking the US" or "the government was in on it," but in reality, there could have been US citizens, governmental and non-governmental, as well as people holding other citizenship and other jobs. People working in the towers themselves could have been in on it, and they could have done so because they were in big financial trouble following the stock market crash and someone offered them a role in the attacks to offset the losses that their families, etc. would have sustained otherwise.

Really you could go in enumerable directions with this conspiracy theorizing, so you have to take any and all of it with a grain of salt. It is interesting to contemplate and theorize by whom, how, and why it might have been orchestrated, but you should assume that anything leaked or published can just as easily be decoy/disinformation as actual progress toward the truth.

If you don't understand what I posted earlier, there's no hope for you.

Witnesses of Molten Metal at Ground Zero
Chris Sarns September 1, 2016
The following is a compilation of documented eyewitness accounts of molten metal at the World Trade Center.

Reports from Direct Eyewitnesses
Leslie Robertson, structural engineer for the design of the World Trade Center
"[T]hey pulled out the big block of concrete and there was like a little river of steel flowing."

https://youtu.be/rjmHqES_lto?t=46s

Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, NY
Told AFP that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the World Trade Center.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020905195530/http:/www.americanfreepress.net/09_03_02/NEW_SEISMI C_/new_seismic_.html

Richard Riggs, debris removal specialist
Quoted in The History Channel's “World Trade Center: Rise and Fall of an American Icon”:

"The fires got very intense down there and actually melted beams where it was molten steel that was being dug up."

https://youtu.be/3Ogrupgt4mI?t=36s

Abolhassan Astaneh, professor of civil engineering at the University of California, Berkeley
One of the leading structural engineers who studied the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9/11:

"I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center."

https://youtu.be/syXpA6B85Ek

Mark Loizeaux, founder of Controlled Demolition, Inc.
"There are both video tape and still photos of the molten steel being 'dipped' out by the buckets of excavators."

https://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=30926&Disp=4#C4

Capt. Philip Ruvolo, FDNY
"You get down below and you'd see molten steel—molten steel running down the channel rail, like you're in a foundry, like lava."

https://youtu.be/nsw2j-3MCMg

Joe O'Toole, firefighter
"Underground fires raged for months. O'Toole remembers in February seeing a crane lift a steel beam vertically from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero. 'It was dripping from the molten steel,' he said."

http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/messengerinquirer_recoveryworker.html

Greg Fuchek, vice president of sales for LinksPoint, Inc.
"In the first few weeks, sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel."

http://gcn.com/articles/2002/09/09/handheld-app-eased-recovery-tasks.aspx

Richard Garlock, a structural engineer for LERA
"Going below, it was smoky and really hot. . . . The debris past the columns was red-hot, molten, running."

http://www.pbs.org/americarebuilds/engineering/engineering_debris_06.html

James Glanz, writer for The New York Times
"A three-foot stalagmite of steel, which looks for all the world like a drip candle, sits next to one of the immense steel columns that held up the north face of the tower."

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/15/nyregion/a-nation-challenged-the-site-below-rubble-a-tour-of-a- still-burning-hell.html

Lee Turner, paramedic
Turner himself crawled through an opening and down crumpled stairwells to the subway, five levels below ground. He remembers seeing in the darkness a distant, pinkish glow — molten metal dripping from a beam.

http://web.archive.org/web/20140106090807/http://www.usnews.com/usnews/9_11/articles/911memories.htm

William Langewiesche, journalist
"In the early days, the streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole.”

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865476756/centerforcoop-20 (pp. 31-32)

Ron Burger, public health advisor at the CDC
"Feeling the heat, seeing the molten steel, the layers upon layers of ash, like lava, it reminded me of Mt. St. Helen's and the thousands who fled that disaster.”

http://www.brazoshealth.org/sites/all/themes/health/images/pdfs/messages_in_the_dust.pdf

Mike Donoho, interim Bryan Fire Department chief
"What you had were large columns of steel that were just stuck into massive amounts of molten steel and other metals."

http://web.archive.org/web/20021104073017/http://www.theeagle.com/septanniv/091102firefighter.htm

Tom Hickey, union ironworker
With no special protective gear, he worked within a few feet of still burning fires, [which were] "like a volcano," hot enough that molten steel could be seen dripping down. "My boots melted every night," he recalled. "You just didn't stand in one place too long."

http://www.riverreporter.com/issues/02-09-05/wtc.htm

David Long, Merrill Lynch
"I went outside and saw a large hole in the left-hand tower, approximately 80 stories up. There was smoke coming out, but not a lot of fire. I could also see streams of molten metal coming from undamaged areas of the building, in three different places."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-09/eyewitness-accounts-of-september-11/2866958

Lee Turner, Boone County Firefighters
"He remembers seeing in the darkness a distant, pinkish glow— molten metal dripping from a beam—but found no signs of life."

https://web.archive.org/web/20020913065755/http://www.usnews.com/usnews/9_11/articles/911memories.htm

https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/technical-articles/articles-by-ae911truth/442-witnesses-of-molten-metal-at-ground-zero

What your post fails to reflect is that the planes could have been hijacked

Of course the "planes" were hijacked, livinglava, by elements of the US government.

Why hasn't the MSM asked Mr Robertson about his baldfaced lies, livinglava?

In 2002, Leslie Robertson, one of the lead engineers/designers of the twin towers, freely and openly, even cheerfully described the molten steel at the B1 level of the twin towers.

Leslie Robertson, structural engineer for the design of the World Trade Center: "[T]hey pulled out the big block of concrete and there was like a little river of steel flowing."

Come 2006, that same Leslie Robertson was denying molten steel. He went from a truth teller to a liar sometime in the intervening 4 years.

You were complaining about lies, lies of omission, etc. but do you realize when you say, "of course," you are asserting certainty that you are not providing conclusive evidence regarding. It is posturing, which is very similar to lying.

You should add people's names at the ends of questions.

And have you considered the possibility that that person was lying or reporting false information given to them somehow without their knowing?

Have you considered the possibility that heat rises, and that with a building that large and tall, the rising heat could concentrate in the upper portions of the building and by the time melting temperature was reached for the steel, the force of collapse would further compound the heat as the hot embers are compressed downward. The effect could be similar to a piston compressing a cylinder of hot, partially burnt fuel-air mixture - only a piston usually compresses using bottom-up motion instead of moving from the top down.

It's possible that these people were lying, but it is also possible they were giving their best testimony based on what they knew and thought at the time.

This tweet shows how Republicans team up with Fox News to confuse the nation

You got the last part right: you're too ******* stupid to do your own research.

You got the last part right: you're too ******* stupid to do your own research.

Your own writing is proof that I am right.

Do you remember the last time you researched a topic, any topic, and what you've learnt as a result of your research? When was it, what was it about, and what did you learn?

Your own writing is proof that I am right.

But I'll give you a chance, 'cause I'm a nice guy.