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Abortion is immoral. Period.

 
 
livinglava
 
  0  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 08:36 am
@glitterbag,
You can't understand what it feels like to master sexual continence until you achieve it. When and if you ever do, you will see that what you are talking about here only makes sense to someone who is addicted to sexual release.
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neptuneblue
 
  2  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 08:52 am
@livinglava,
I gave you four hundred choices to demonstrate my point.

I don't find you hostile and/or disrespectful at all.

I think you're clutching at straws to make your argument, even claiming libido is.............an addiction to sexual release.

I'm not sure if that's comical or just plain sad. I'll let you know which one if you continue to post nonsense.
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neptuneblue
 
  3  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 09:03 am
Sex feels good, but did you know it's also super good for your health?

From head to toe, the benefits of sex start as soon as things start heating up and stay with you long after that post coital glow fades away. Here are some benefits for your brain, body, and bonding that you can look forward to during and after making love.

FOR YOUR BRAIN

1. Boosted Brain Power

Sex increases blood flow everywhere, including your brain. That blood flow includes an extra bump of glucose which you can use as energy. This can be just the jump start you need to get focused and productive in other areas of your busy life. Make it a priority, not an afterthought! 4

2. Reduced Stress

Busy? Anxious? Fearful? You know what can help with that? Research from Scotland shows that people who had sex within the past two weeks were better able to manage stressful situations. This is because endorphins and oxytocin are released during sex and help ward off anxiety and depression (with a surge at orgasm, but consistently throughout any sexual activity). 5

3. Improved Mood

Sex feels good and you look good doing it, but it also elevates your mood and has been shown to reduce depression. Exposure to semen has even been shown to sometimes act as an antidepressant! 3

4. Better Memory

Concerned about your memory as you age? Then you'll be glad to know, sexually active adults have been shown to have better memory than their less frisky counterparts. 1

5. Confidence Booster

Frequent sexual activity can make you look younger! This is a side effect of the release of estrogen during sex. 1 Intimacy with your husband can also give you a sense of being attractive, desirable, proficient, and confident, which can carry over into other aspects of your life as well. 4

6. Satisfies Cravings

And not just for THAT. Sex offers the same benefits as sugary comfort foods - without any of the bloat! Pleasure pathways in the brain light up during sex - the same way that they do when enjoying sweet treats. 2

FOR YOUR BODY

7. Pain Relief

Sore muscles? Back ache? Even a migraine or the effects of rheumatoid arthritis? Just looking at your husband can make you feel better. In a study, anesthesiologists showed people pictures and found a significant drop in the experience of pain when people looked at their romantic partners. Just cuddling can release oxytocin, while sex releases serotonin, endorphins, and phenylethylamine - all hormones that trigger euphoric feelings. Endorphins released during orgasm resemble morphine and have the same feel-good effects by triggering morphine receptors in the brain and effectively relieving pain. That certainly sounds more fun than popping a few pills and calling the doctor in the morning. 2, 5, 7

8. Better Sleep

While it’s a cliche that men pass out right after sex, sex can help you catch a few Z’s too. The brain releases norepinephrine, serotonin, oxytocin, and vasopressin, which can trigger the urge to cuddle or pass out. Those endorphins that make you feel great and relieve pain can also relax your mind and body and get you primed for sleep. Another explanation for why that pillow seems so inviting after an orgasm - the hormone prolactin is released during the Big "O" and prolactin levels are higher when sleeping. However, keep it low key and slowed down if you’re trying to sleep after, because being highly active can leave you feeling more energetic rather than sleepy. 3, 5

9. Higher Energy

Wait, what? Didn’t I just tell you that sex can make you sleep better? All those hormones that are making you feel extra cuddly and euphoric can also pump you up! A shot of glucose into your system after orgasm sharpens brain performance and your body can use it as energy. Busy night coming up? Try some afternoon delight to get through it.

10. Improved Smell

Prolactin that is produced after intercourse creates new neurons in the olfactory bulb - the part of your brain that controls how we understand and react to smells. 3

11. Higher Immunity

People who have sex one to two times a week have three times as much Immunoglobulin A (a major player in the natural antibody game) coursing through their bodies as those who are having no sex, infrequent sex, or even very frequent sex (more than 3 times a week). So make a point of warming up with your hubby a couple of times a week and the two of you can fight off the common cold together! 1, 3, 4, 7

12. Softer Skin

That “morning after glow” is a cliche for a reason - increased blood circulation and a rush of oxygen in the blood means a temporarily brighter complexion. An orgasm triggers a rush of endorphins and growth hormones like DHEA that even help heal damage caused by the thinning of the skin. Regular sex releases hormones including testosterone and estrogen, which can keep the body looking young and vital. Estrogen also promotes soft skin and shiny hair. A study in Scotland viewed participants through a one way mirror and guessed their ages. Those having frequent sex with a steady partner were perceived to be seven to 12 years younger than their less active counterparts. 2, 4, 5

13. Healthier Heart

Sex counts as cardio, making it great for boosting your metabolism, loosing weight, and maintaining a healthy heart! Studies show that your risk of dying from a heart attack or stroke goes down as the frequency of orgasms goes up. Assuming that you aren’t exceptionally vigorous, a good romp puts your heart in the same position as jogging 4-6 miles an hour. And like other cardio, exercise between the sheets has the benefits of strengthening muscles and reducing your risk of heart disease and hypertension. 1, 2, 3

14. Better Circulation

Sexual activity - all the more so with an orgasm - increases blood flow and that blood is carrying with it increased oxygen and helping to eliminate toxins to promote the healthy function of all your systems. Healthy circulation gives you more energy, a glowing complexion, and even improved sensitivity down below to help you climax during sex! Additionally, improved circulation lowers blood pressure, and the hormones circulating through your blood help to regulate and prepare your body for whatever you have planned next. So get your groove on, because it's going to make you feel amazing all around! 1, 4

15. Uterine Benefits

When a woman has an orgasm, the uterus contracts. These contractions have wide reaching benefits including less intense menstrual cramping, faster periods, and reducing the risk of endometriosis. Sex, especially during your period, can reduce the risk of uterine tissue growing outside of the uterus. 1

16. Stronger Pelvic Floor

The act of sex can help strengthen your pelvic floor, which has benefits such as less pain during sex and a reduced chance of vaginal prolapse. Intercourse helps build stronger pelvic muscles and increases the production of your vagina’s natural lubrication. Women who continue to be sexually active after menopause are less likely to have significant vaginal atrophy, which can lead to pain during sex. Other side effects down under include improved bladder control and reduced incontinence. Oh, and more intense orgasms! 1, 7

17. Stronger Teeth

So this link hasn’t been proven explicitly, but semen contains minerals like calcium, magnesium, and zinc which are also found in root canal fillings and over the counter tooth rinses. These minerals can help strengthen teeth, so getting them in your system can make your smile even brighter. 3

18. Lowered Risks During Pregnancy

Frequent sex during pregnancy, especially exposure to semen, can reduce the risk of developing preeclampsia (which can cause swollen extremities, headaches, nausea, and even seizures). HLG-A is a protein found in semen which can help regulate a pregnant wife’s immune system and protect against preeclampsia. 3

19. Better Periods

Frequent sex throughout the month can make that time of the month lighter, shorter, and less disruptive. Intimacy and intercourse can help regulate levels of luteinizing hormone which controls the menstrual cycle. Lower fluctuations in the hormone can make your cycle less disruptive. The uterine contractions that come with an orgasm rid the body of cramp-causing compounds and help expel blood more quickly, helping to end your period faster. 3, 5

20. Higher Fertility

Obviously your chances of conceiving are higher when you’re having sex, especially during the fertile window. However, current studies show that sex even outside of the fertile window can promote types of immunity that support conception. Sexually active women experience a greater change in helper T cells, which help the body recognize that sperm or a newly fertilized egg are not “foreign invaders”. These same helper T cells can change Immunoglobulin A antibodies to help them fight diseases without interfering in the uterus. These changes in immunity help prepare the body to sustain a pregnancy and they were only observed in sexually active women, showing that the couple that practices baby making often has better chances of making a baby! 6

FOR BETTER BONDING

21. Improved Emotional Health

Sex with your spouse has proven emotional benefits that are greater than what singles experience. The release of oxytocin during intercourse and orgasm stimulates a pair bonding instinct and can manifest itself in feelings of generosity toward others and closeness to your husband. It also improves the ability to perceive, identify, and express emotions. 1, 4

22. Improved Marital Relationship

Sex isn’t called making love for nothing. Consistent, mutual sexual pleasure helps with bonding within a relationship, thanks again to oxytocin. Couples have reported increased relationship satisfaction when they fulfill one another’s sexual desires. The openness that comes with sharing intimate moments in the marriage bed can carry on into other parts of your spousal relationship thanks to increased levels of trust and intimacy sparked by that magical little hormone. 1, 4

23. Greater Understanding of God

God made sex, because He loves us and wants us to better understand and love Him too. All throughout the Bible, He calls us to spend time being physically intimate with our spouse. Proverbs tells our husbands to “enjoy the wife of your youth” and “delight in her breasts.” The entirety of the Song of Solomon is a celebration of marital intimacy, full of beautiful imagery of not only emotional connections, but physical pleasure as well. And the Apostle Paul, speaking to the church in Corinth, tells us explicitly, “Do not deprive one another … so that Satan may not tempt you.” Again, he says in Ephesians 5:31, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” The leaving is important, but the becoming one flesh is a beautiful picture of the intimacy that is found in the marriage bed.

Frequent sex is not only encouraged by God for a healthy marital relationship, but it also gives us a sweet taste of what life will be like one day with Him in eternity. My college professor's wife once told me, "The best way I know to describe Heaven is it will be like a giant, never-ending orgasm." I know - it's a funny way of thinking about it! But I think it's true that the ecstasy we experience during sex, particularly during orgasm, is the closest we come on earth to comprehending the flood of joy we'll experience when we're with our Creator forever, and the fact that He made sex to be delighted in reveals the goodness and love that defines who He is.

I don't know about you, but I can’t think of many other activities that offer so many physical and emotional benefits in such an enjoyable fashion!



livinglava
 
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Sun 29 Jul, 2018 09:33 am
@neptuneblue,
What you don't understand is that I've been through this sex-positive cultural obsession when I was younger, and I ended up talking to lots of women who were pro-life and very bothered by abortion, so I started studying 'old fashioned' religious ideas about sexual continence and I came to understand that continence has nothing to do with being anti-sex. Rather, it is about controlling it the way you control orgasm to sustain sexual pleasure. Continence goes beyond that by further distancing yourself from the physicality of intercourse, which ultimately produces a sustained sexual high that goes beyond any kind of physical pleasure of the flesh. This is the higher expression of sexual energy, which of course must be shifted downward into physical intercourse to procreate, but it is a delusion to think that intercourse is the best expression of this energy.

Abortion is just one negative byproduct of materializing sexual energy. There is also disease, heartbreak, and the lethargy of being spent. Because sexual release is an intensification and elimination of sexual energy, it is addictive the same way pain killers are addictive because they are intensified variations on natural endorphins. And in the same way addicts can transition from the ups and downs of substance kicks, you can also overcome the ups-downs of sexual escalation into physical intercourse and subsequent relative depression and then hunger/desperation to rekindle. You may not recognize your personal sexual experiences in my words, but that is probably because you minimize the drama you go through in your mind to whitewash what you are desperately afraid of losing or having criticized.

If you deeply reflect on what sexual intercourse/release does with your energy, you should understand how continence of this energy results in more stable and prolonged pleasure and joy, not less. What's more, you should then recognize why the intensity of intercourse/orgasm/release also corresponds with the intensity of pregnancy/abortion, STIs, and all the other forms of sexual drama. You may say all this drama is preferable to you than sustained sexual energy without peaks and lows, but then you must also like fighting over abortion and trying to win against people like me who preach alternative viewpoints. Be warned, though, that drama continues to escalate to a point where you lose your appetite. Then you will try to warn others, but if they haven't reached their limits yet, they will just argue against you, but maybe something you say will help them in a moment of darkness when they realize they are miserable and want out and have nowhere else to turn but within.
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 10:07 am
@livinglava,
Although I do understand your view point, I don't agree with it. If not having sex is the right decision for YOU and that's how'd you'd like to maintain YOUR life, then, great!

However, the source of contention starts when you try to interfere with MY beliefs and MY way of life. I, too, have talked to both men and women who state their beliefs as either pro-life or pro-choice. Both have logical, sentient arguments. You're right, it IS about control - the right of your beliefs to dictate my beliefs in ways I don't agree with, and vice versa.

I don't agree with your analysis of sex. There are many medical studies and psychological research that have determined sex is a benefit for both men and women. To deny the facts seems rather contrary to the point.

Millions of dollars are spent on contraception for both men and women to minimize the risk of an unwanted pregnancy. The day after pill and D&C procedures are also a part of ensuring parenthood does not occur.

I believe people when they say they don't want to be a parent. I don't feel the need to psycho-analyze their decision nor will I think less of them as a human because of it. Just like I think Octo Mom had the right to make her family, her way. I don't walk in her shoes. I support her decision to have 14 children although she raises those children on Public Assistance. But that's not MY decision, either. It's hers and hers alone.

Drama always ensues when one party will not allow another party to sustain their own beliefs. It's kinda exactly like what you're doing right now...



livinglava
 
  0  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 11:19 am
@neptuneblue,
I didn't think it would make sense to you, but thanks for at least reading and trying to grasp. As for controlling others' lives, this is just what politics and government is about. Thank God we have democracy so we can discuss all the sides and issues of a contentious topic like abortion without breaking down into repressive violence from either side.

Sadly, I think the public discourse is moving in that direction, though. You can tell from signs like the political ad I saw recently portraying a 'department of reproductive control' as an oppressive force of white business men against minority women. In reality, it is exactly the opposite. The same extra-governmental forces that maintain economic inequalities also promote abortion and fight to keep it legal because it is part of an economic system that maintains sexual access for men who make money. Sex is used by the economy as a reward for participating successfully in capitalism, and pregnancy interferes with that.

I know you won't agree with me that there is brainwashing, manipulation, etc. because you are fully convinced by the propaganda. Maybe one day you will question it and realize you've been sold on an empty, mostly masturbatory, vision of sexuality that prevents sexual energy from reaching its highest potential. Sex for orgasm just pales in comparison as sex for life, but it's impossible to see it if you can't see what sexual energy does beyond the horizon of abstinence.
neptuneblue
 
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Sun 29 Jul, 2018 11:45 am
@livinglava,
Of course I agree with you about there is brainwashing, manipulation and propaganda. Just look at what you said, " so I started studying 'old fashioned' religious ideas about sexual continence." You are fully convinced of that. Ok, fine. No complaints here.

But yet again, you share your opinion that I'm uninformed and for a lack of better words, stupid to not agree with you. I view your contempt for sex rather odd, that's all. All because we don't agree doesn't mean I'll resort to attacking your intelligence as you have mine.

Roe vs Wade stands as law right now. Maybe that will change in the near future or not at all. If or when that law is overturned, still it will not stop abortions from occurring. It will make it illegal and unsafe. Again, I'll continue to fight for women's health issues. If you choose not to, well, you'll still receive the benefits of all the hard work both women and men have done.
livinglava
 
  0  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 11:57 am
@neptuneblue,
Have you fully explored abstinence? If not, can you really say you have as much experience to speak on it as someone who has both experienced having an active sex life as well as abstinence?

You should avoid making things personal by accusing others of calling you stupid. All it does is basically just beg compliments. I don't know you so I don't know how stupid or smart you are, and I would be lying if I insist I don't find you stupid when the truth is that I don't really know.

All I know is from what I have read in your posts, which is that you are utterly biased in favor of sexual intercourse, abortion, etc. and against abstinence and religious ideas that support it. Is that due to stupidity or pro-sex bias or maybe you are a person who is truly open-minded toward abstinence and pro-life views as well as the ones you favor and it just so happens you ended up in favor of pro-choice. Idk, but it's not fair of you to accuse me of calling you stupid or assuming that you are when all I can honestly do is speculate and suspect one way or the other.
neptuneblue
 
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Sun 29 Jul, 2018 12:21 pm
@livinglava,
I've lived a full life thus far. It's been filled with happiness and pain, abstinence and over-sexualization, to satisfaction with my sexual life. I'm just average, pretty much just like every one else.

I've had one abortion, two live births (resulting in one with medical handicaps) and four miscarriages, one that was eptopic that almost ended my life. So I know the full spectrum of the circle of Life.

You?
livinglava
 
  0  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 12:39 pm
@neptuneblue,
I'm not as comfortable discussing my personal details in a public forum, and God knows it is just seeming like a competition for status/authority at this point, but if you don't mind me asking, was your experience with abstinence sustained to the point of becoming emotionally and libidinally stable with it? In other words, were you comfortable containing your sexual energy, or was it fighting too hard for expression for it to sublimate into something higher?
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 12:49 pm
@livinglava,
So, all that was about was to dig dirt.

I guess honesty is NOT your forte after all.

When you actually can have an adult conversation, let me know.
livinglava
 
  0  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 01:06 pm
@neptuneblue,
Dig dirt? Why would I care about digging dirt on you? I was just asking you whether you could speak from experience from both sexual activity and comfortable sexual abstinence. It is not easy to abstain from sex comfortably, but once you achieve a certain level of comfort, it is a good feeling. It is like choosing to restrict your diet and then reaching a point where you feel satisfied with what you're eating and not having cravings all the time when you're not. With sexual abstinence, I don't think the sexual urge ever goes away completely, but for the most part other things fill the void and the sublimated energy permeates through your being and idk if it's possible for someone who hasn't experienced that already to understand it.

So, no, I wasn't digging for dirt. I just wondered if you had experienced happiness outside of being sexually active.
neptuneblue
 
  3  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 01:13 pm
@livinglava,
Are you a virgin? Have you had a sexual relationship that lasted more than a 1 year? Does your religious beliefs compel you to not enjoy sex or not put in an effort? Have you ever had a partner who has been unhappy with your lack of sexuality?
livinglava
 
  0  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 02:09 pm
@neptuneblue,
As I said, I'm not going to get into personal details. I recommend you avoid it, too, because it makes you very vulnerable to ridicule, and many people will not hesitate to bash you as hard as they can on the internet. I apologize for anything I said that was not in proportion to something you had said to me first.

Maybe you have understood the things I've been saying or maybe you just dismiss it as insanity from someone you see as sexually repressed. Either way, it doesn't matter. If you understand what I'm saying and you want to explore the experience of gaining peace in abstinence, I can tell you it's worth the effort.

Abortions and miscarriages are stressful. If you could protect others from that stress, would you? Or do you think an active sex life is worth it? I don't think I have as much experience as you, but I have enough to cause me to choose peace of mind of such turmoil and drama. But then maybe as an alcoholic friend of mine told me when I renounced drinking, I just can't 'hold my liquor' where sexual drama is concerned.
neptuneblue
 
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Sun 29 Jul, 2018 02:26 pm
@livinglava,
I try protect others who get opinions thrust on them by people who have no practical experience or a religious belief that isn't shared. It's worth the effort to continue to fight for women's health issues, regardless of the people that block their path. My peace of mind comes knowing women have access to quality medical care at affordable prices.
livinglava
 
  0  
Sun 29 Jul, 2018 03:46 pm
@neptuneblue,
Most of the pro-life anger I've experienced has come from women. The women I've talked with about it are very angry about abortion. To my common sense understanding of heterosexuality, abortion benefits men more than it does women. Roe v. Wade removed male accountability for pregnancy/abortion by removing the requirement to report rape when seeking abortion, which makes it possible for men to be held accountable for an aspect of sexuality that traumatizes many women, who are forced to take full responsibility for something that is not entirely their fault.
neptuneblue
 
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Sun 29 Jul, 2018 05:28 pm
@livinglava,
And that's your opinion and your experience. It isn't mine.

An unplanned pregnancy occurs much more frequently in a relationship and not by a crime of rape. Women are no longer tied to a man she doesn't want to be a parent with. Maybe being stuck in a no win unplanned situation seems ok for you, but for many women, abortion is an alternative. Not a good one, but yes, an alternative.

Try getting child support for 18 years from a man who didn't want to become a father in the first place. Men's rights are almost non-existent in regard to paying a monthly fee to help raise a child but restricted in the amount of custody. Child support arrearages makes daily living almost poverty level for a woman raising that child IF it's awarded at all. Pay attention to men's advocate groups and MGTOW and you'll have a better understanding. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that IS the reality.

Men who commit a crime of rape usually get arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law. I'm not sure why you feel that doesn't make them accountable.

The women I've had conversations with understand they don't walk in people's shoes. Although they personally wouldn't have an abortion, they understand why someone else would. They support each other and lend a guiding hand if need be.

It seems to me you're rather young and very inexperienced. Maybe you just need a better class of friends.
neptuneblue
 
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Mon 30 Jul, 2018 06:24 am
@livinglava,
Who's getting abortions? Not who you'd think
Half of the women are 25 or older; most already have a child

Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP file

Jan. 22 marks the 35th anniversary of the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision, which established a nationwide right to abortion.

updated 1/18/2008 6:09:57 PM ET Print Font:

NEW YORK — In American pop culture, the face of abortion is often a frightened teenager, nervously choosing to terminate an unexpected pregnancy. The numbers tell a far more complex story in which financial stress can play a pivotal role.

Half of the roughly 1.2 million U.S. women who have abortions each year are 25 or older. Only about 17 percent are teens. About 60 percent have given birth to least one child prior to getting an abortion.

A disproportionately high number are black or Hispanic. And regardless of race, high abortion rates are linked to hard times.

“It doesn’t just happen to young people, it doesn’t necessarily have to do with irresponsibility,” said Miriam Inocencio, president of Planned Parenthood of Rhode Island. “Women face years and years of reproductive life after they’ve completed their families, and they’re at risk of an unintended pregnancy that can create an economic strain.”

Who has abortions?
Activists on both sides of the abortion debate will soon be marking the 35th anniversary of the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision, which established a nationwide right to abortion. Since Jan. 22, 1973, there have been roughly 50 million abortions in the United States, and more than one-third of adult women are estimated to have had at least one.

Who are these women?

Much of the public debate focuses on teens, as evidenced by the constant wranging over parental notification laws and movies like the current hit “Juno,” in which the pregnant heroine heads to an abortion clinic, then decides to have the baby.

In fact, the women come from virtually every demographic sector. But year after year the statistics reveal that black women and economically struggling women — who have above-average rates of unintended pregnancies — are far more likely than others to have abortions. About 13 percent of American women are black, yet new figures from the Centers for Disease Control show they account for 35 percent of the abortions.

Black anti-abortion activists depict this phenomenon in dire terms — “genocide” and “holocaust,” for example. But often the women getting the abortions say they act in the interests of children they already have.

“It wasn’t a hard decision for me to make, because I knew where I wanted to go in my life — I’ve never regretted it,” said Kimberly Mathias, 28, an African-American single mother from Missouri. She had an abortion at 19, when she already raising a 2-year-old son.

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“It wasn’t hard to realize I didn’t want another child at that time,” Mathias said. “I was trying to take care of the one I had, and going to college and working at the same time.”

She was able to graduate, now has an insurance job, and — still a single mother — has a 3-year-old son as well as her first-born, now 11.

'A silent killer'

By contrast, Alveda King, a niece of Martin Luther King Jr., calls herself a “reformed murderer” for undergoing two abortions when she was young.

Now an outspoken anti-abortion campaigner, King says the best way to reduce abortions among black women is to dissuade more of them from premarital sex.

“We give free sex education, free condoms, free birth control,” she complained. “That’s almost like permission to have free sex, and the higher the rate of sexual activity, the higher the rate of unintended pregnancy.”

Anti-abortion activist Day Gardner of the National Black Pro-Life Union says many blacks are unaware of their community’s high abortion rate.

“We don’t talk about it,” Gardner said. “It’s a silent killer among us.”

She contends that abortion-rights supporters tempt black women into abortion by suggesting they can’t afford to raise the child. But Gardner also acknowledges that some black women make this argument on their own.

“We had the whole civil rights movement — now we’re in a place where we’re moving further toward equality,” Gardner said. “So women think, ‘For once, I can see the American dream. I can have the house and the job, but it would postpone it to have another child. I can’t afford to take time off.’ ”

Dr. Vanessa Cullins, a black physician who is Planned Parenthood’s national vice president for medical affairs, said the allegations of “black genocide” do not help women meet day-to-day challenges.

“These actions take attention away from medically proven ways to reduce unintended pregnancy — comprehensive sex education, affordable birth control, and open and honest conversations about relationships,” she said

Looking beyond racial dividing lines, Cullins views the right to abortion as an important component in the ability of all American women to determine the right size for their family.

“Groups that become assimilated in U.S. culture and experience economic opportunities naturally decide to limit family size, because they want to take part in the American dream,” she said. “If you’re a single mother, achieving the dream is all the harder, so it makes sense to limit family size so you can shower as much support as you can on the children you have.”

Financial pressures

Georgette Forney, who had an abortion when she was 16 and is now an anti-abortion campaigner leading Anglicans for Life, says she often sees economic pressures triggering abortions, even in middle-class families.

“In one situation, the husband was adamant that they were on track to pay for their two sons’ college education, and a third child would throw off his whole calculation,” Forney recounted. “So that baby was aborted and that woman was devastated. It was a five-year process to recover.”

Forney said she also encountered a single mother who was worried she might lose custody of her daughter in light of a suit by the biological father. The woman then became pregnant, Forney said, and had an abortion in violation of her own beliefs because she feared having a second child would jeopardize prospects for keeping her daughter.

“We’ve begun to depend on abortions,” Forney said. “We feel we have to choose between our unborn child and our born children.”

Martha Girard, on the other hand, says she’s appalled by the notion that women should lose the right to choose.

A hospital ultrasound technician from Pleasant Prairie, Wis., and a mother of three, Girard had an abortion two years ago, at the age of 44, when she mistakenly thought she was too old to get pregnant.

Having been through three difficult pregnancies previously, and coping with a mentally disabled eldest son, she felt abortion was the prudent choice.

“I knew that this pregnancy would end up badly — I could feel it — and we’ve already got enough problems with the mentally ill son,” Girard said.

“I was very sad and depressed the first week,” she added. “But because it’s hard on you emotionally and some women regret it, that doesn’t mean it’s wrong, that someone else should decide for you.”

The Journal of Family Issues published a report earlier this month asserting that women often choose abortion because of their wish to be good parents.

That means women who have no children want the conditions to be right when they do, and women who already are mothers want to care responsibly for their existing children, said the lead author, Rachel Jones, a researcher with the Guttmacher Institute.

“These women believed that it was more responsible to terminate a pregnancy than to have a child whose health and welfare could be in question,” Jones said.

Number of abortions declining

Even among many abortion opponents, the Guttmacher Institute — which supports abortion rights — is considered the nation’s best source of abortion statistics.

Rogelio V. Solis / ASSOCIATED PRESS

Flip Benham, director of Operation Save America, leads a group of anti-abortion supporters in prayer outside Jackson Women's Health Organization on July 15, 2006, in Jackson, Miss. More than one-third of adult American women are estimated to have had at least one abortion.
Federal statistics do not include California, the most populous state, because its government does not provide data. But Guttmacher researchers surveyed abortion providers there as well as in other states to produce the latest national estimate of 1.2 million abortions in 2005. That’s down from a peak of 1.6 million in 1990 but still represents more than 20 percent of all pregnancies.

One of the Guttmacher’s top researchers, Stanley Henshaw, said the recent drop may disguise the fact abortion rates remain relatively high for black and Hispanic women. He believes the most effective countermeasure would be wider availability of contraceptives such as intrauterine device, or IUDs, that don’t require attention as frequently as condoms or birth-control pills.

Though abortion is commonplace across the country, urban areas have far higher rates than rural areas where access to abortion providers can be difficult.

New York, New Jersey, California, Delaware, Nevada, Maryland and Florida had the highest abortion rates in 2005, according to the new Guttmacher report released this week. Wyoming, Idaho, Kentucky, South Dakota and Mississippi had the lowest rates — the latter two states have just a single abortion clinic in operation.

Susan Hill, founder of the National Women’s Health Organization that runs the remaining Mississippi clinic, says the statistics may not fully reflect a subgroup of relatively affluent women who obtain unreported abortions through their private doctors.

“In Mississippi, it’s the poor women who don’t have access to that who have to run through the maze of protesters screaming and yelling abuse,” Hill said. “Wealthier women can be more creative about their alternatives.”

According to Guttmacher data, the abortion rate among women living below the federal poverty level is more than four times higher that among women from middle-income and affluent households.

An increasing number of women avoid surgery by using the RU-486 abortion pill or other early medication — these now account for about 13 percent of all abortions.

Of all U.S. women getting abortions, about 54 percent are doing so for the first time, while one-fifth have had at least two previous abortions. Of those over 20, the majority have attended college. Almost a third have been married at some point. About 60 percent have at least one child; one-third have two or more.

“I don’t think most people understand that these are women who have families, who are making a very serious decision about their reproductive health,” said Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America. “The stereotype is that the decision is made lightly. It is not.”
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Mon 30 Jul, 2018 06:28 am
@neptuneblue,
I didn't pry, but I suspect some of the pro-life women who have expressed anger regarding abortion may have had abortions and regretted it and been angry that they were talked into getting them.

If you have sex without being prepared for the possibility of pregnancy, then you are either insane or a rapist. Abortion is not an option that justifies intercourse. Why do you think it is rape if you get drunken consent for intercourse? It is because drunken consent is not consent. I.e. people aren't in a proper frame of mind to make a responsible decision regarding sex that takes into account the consequences.

If people only engage in intercourse when they are ready to accept pregnancy as a consequence, then abortion isn't necessary. If the man fails to wait for consent, then it is rape. If the woman consents without being ready to accept the responsibility of pregnancy, then she is insane. Then, the question becomes whether to allow abortion for insane women.

What you seem to want to argue is that sex for pleasure should be protected from pregnancy by allowing abortion, and I disagree and this is why so many people are pro-life. They/we think that people should choose abstinence over pleasure when they are not prepared to get pregnant and have a child.
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Statistics briefing (4): Age, marital status, previous children, and ethnicity
How does abortion relate to age? Abortion and fertility rates; Marital status, previous children, and ethnicity; Relevant commentary.
How does abortion relate to age?

Most abortions are carried out for women between the ages of 18 and 29. In 2011, women aged 20-24 had 55,909 abortions and the highest abortion rate (30 per 1,000 women). There were 42,321 abortions to women aged 25-29, and 33,923 to women aged 15-19; the rates were 23 per 1,000 women and 20 per 1,000 women respectively.

Although abortion numbers are largely concentrated within the middle of the reproductive life-span (age 15 to 44), a relatively small number of women at both ends of this spectrum require abortions. In 2011, there were 1,000 abortions to girls under the age of 15, and 660 abortions to women between the ages of 45 and 49. There were 23 abortions to women aged 50 and over.

Over recent decades, a great deal of attention has been paid to ‘teenage’ pregnancy and abortion rates. It should first be noted that the category ‘teenage’ does not distinguish between girls who are pregnant at the age of 14, and those at the age of 19. In 2011, the under-16 abortion rate was 3 per 1,000 women, and the under-18 abortion rate was 15 per 1,000 women. The under-18 conception rate is estimated to be the lowest rate since the early 1980s, and half of conceptions to girls under 18 now end in legal abortion. This indicates that younger women are gaining an increased ability to manage the causes and consequences of
unintended pregnancy.

One interesting development has been a rise in the abortion rate for ‘older’ women - those over the age of 25. Last year, following the release of the 2010 statistics, it was noted that 8,179 women aged 40 and over had had abortions. Ann Furedi, chief executive of BPAS, commented: ‘I think women are generally remaining sexually active for longer, and women in their 40s increasingly see themselves as sexual players – whether or not they are in relationships – in a way that they didn’t even a decade ago.’ Many older women, especially those who came off the contraceptive pill because of their age, were inclined to take chances with contraception, only to be ‘stunned’ when they found themselves pregnant. The figures include women who had opted for abortion when antenatal screening disclosed a high chance of abnormalities such as Down’s syndrome, the risk of which rises with age.

Abortion and fertility rates

The focus on abortion and young women can obscure the need for abortion indicated by women in their twenties, at a time where many women are starting their families later. The standardised average (mean) age of mother rose to 29.5 years in 2010, compared with 29.4 years in 2009 and 28.5 years in 2000. The existence of a longer ‘window’ between women becoming sexually active and starting their families may mean that women are more exposed to unintended pregnancy.

The rising age of motherhood has a number of implications for abortion. It means that women are less likely to have children at the peak of their fertile years, leading to a greater need to control their fertility through contraception and abortion. The trend towards delayed motherhood confirms that women are already doing this: it can be assumed that most women are sexually active for some time before starting their families. Later age of motherhood is also associated with an increased risk of fetal anomaly. This does not mean that women diagnosed with fetal anomalies will necessarily terminate their pregnancies, but a greater proportion of women will face that decision.

Marital status

In 2011, the vast majority (81%) of women who had an abortion were classified as ‘single’ (Table 2): an increase from 75% in 2002. However, this relates only to marital status. The proportion of women who described themselves as ‘single with partner’ increased from 17% in 2002 to 49% in 2011, while 26% described themselves as ‘single no partner’: compared to 25% in 2002.

Women who were married or in a civil partnership accounted for 16% of all women who had abortions in 2011. The proportions that were separated, widowed or divorced remained fairly constant over the decade, at around 3%.

Previous children

In 2011, half (51%) of women who had abortions were already mothers – a proportion that has been relatively constant for a decade. Seventeen percent had had a previous pregnancy resulting in spontaneous miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy. It is often thought that women who have abortions do not want children: these figures indicate that the reality is more subtle, and many women have abortions because they don’t want, or cannot manage, any more children.

Ethnicity

The ethnicity of women who had abortions has remained fairly constant since 2002. In 2011, 76% of women having abortions were white; 10% were Black or Black British; 10% were Asian or Asian British; 2% were ‘Chinese or other ethnic group’; and 3% were ‘mixed’.

Relevant commentary

UK: Rise in abortions among women over 40. The number of women having abortions in their 40s has risen by almost one third in a decade, according to national statistics. Abortion Review, 29 May 2011

Motherhood, abortion and parenting culture. At a recent conference, academics from the UK and USA came together to discuss new challenges to women’s autonomy. Abortion Review, 19 July 2010

Teenagers and ‘repeat abortions’: contraception is not a magic bullet. Commentary by Lisa Hallgarten, director of Education For Choice. Abortion Review, 18 June 2010

Young People in London: abortion and repeat abortion. Research report by Lesley Hoggart and Joan Phillips, Policy Studies Institute, January 2010

Motherhood in the 21st Century. Two recent conferences raised important questions about the way that medical discourse is framing concerns about the ‘optimal’ time and circumstances in which women should reproduce. By Jennie Bristow. Abortion Review, 25 September 2009

‘What I really really want’. Does having a child make you more or less inclined to support the idea of abortion on demand - or indeed have one yourself? Viv Groskop reports for The Guardian (London). Abortion Review, 23 April 2009

USA: Abortion and good motherhood. A new study finds that in many cases, women choose abortion because they are motivated to be good parents. Abortion Review, 11 January 2008

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