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Does Religion Have a Place in the Future of Humankind?

 
 
Eryemil
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 12:53 pm
Guys aren't we being heartless towards the poor theists?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 12:56 pm
The theists don't see it that way; they all think all the rest of us are headed to hell - and they to heaven.
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Eryemil
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 12:59 pm
Since you put it that way... Get the torches and pitchforks!! Very Happy
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 12:59 pm
Eryemil wrote

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You are following blindly. I would buy a dog if I where you, and knee protectors.


Now you are getting into the swing of things. The game is sting a believer and watch him squirm. :wink:
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:03 pm
C.I.
I heard hell is where the best looking and promiscuous women are. Evil or Very Mad
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:06 pm
I understand 72 virgins are waiting...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:07 pm
Ooops, wrong side; they're the one's going to heaven.
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Eryemil
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:11 pm
I guess I really don't wanna go to hell!! You guys get laid and the women come and talk to me about it. So not fun! ^^'
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headofthefield
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:15 pm
Not that you all are trying to mock us, I think that you prolly will "burn in hell" but, I just hope you change your mind. Anyways in this attack on our religion you have proven the point that man's downfall and death is in his ignorance and arrogance. One more bible quote " PRIDE COME BEFORE A FALL."
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:17 pm
My god! That bible does have some merit. ROFLMAO
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headofthefield
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:21 pm
By the way many believers before us have bared your "stings" and I think if they died for the same beliefs as I, then I can take your worthless attacks and your constant will to think you are right. But don't worry I will enjoy watching you "squirm" while I sit in heaven with my "father."
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:26 pm
head, You're all heart.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:30 pm
Your father headofthefield senior?
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:34 pm
I don't care wether you wish hear us out anymore. I can now see that you atheists (and agnostics I guess) just want to attack other's faith. You claim to have an open mind, people with an open mind would rather discuss than blatantly attack. I have seen none of this.

You can rant about the bible all you want...the simple fact is that when you actually use your noggin to put it all together and look at it from another point of view, you can come up with something that I'm sure God would not be displeased with. If it is the divine word, and it is translated differently, I'm sure God will take that into account.

I don't wish for you to burn, I just hope you are truthful with yourself.
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theantibuddha
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:36 pm
Eryemil wrote:
Anti, sometimes you scare me ^^'


Very Happy

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I am glad to see you join the bloodbath. At first I was going to lock the thread but I've found a new guilty pleasure in watching these people squirm.


I'm the reason that you keep a thread open... Seriously Ery do you really think I need my ego boosted? Wink

thunderrunner wrote:
Please give me one contradiction that cannot be explained by understanding of the bible as a whole.


<sigh> if I do the response will be "oh but that's a metaphor" or "you're taking it out of context" or "it makes perfect sense in ancient aramaic"... but okay.... I'll bite.

What happened that famous Easter? We've got four stories here which agree on a few vague points but hardly seem to match up. Let's just pick a single scene out here, Jesus has carked it and been put away into his tomb. People are about to go find the empty tomb, pretty important scene right?

So okay, Mary goes... Or was it the two Marys? Or did Mary go there on the way to the toilet and thus bring all her female friends? Hell let's say they all went and some of the writers just didn't mention the gawkers. That's cool.

So they get there and the stone's still sitting there. They're thinking "bugger, how the hell am I going to move this stone" when suddenly an angel moves it.

No wait, that's not right, they get there and the stone's gone and there's this young guy sitting inside. Or hang on, was that two guys in shining robes or maybe two angels?

So the young guy tells them to talk to the disciples and tell them to go to Galilee. Or was that Jerusalem? Maybe Angels mutter or something, or they have to be interpreted through some kind of John Edwards guy, "let's see I'm getting a G sounding word, like Galillee or maybe Jerusalem. This ringing a bell for anyone?"

These women or I mean the woman, or whoever the hell was there goes and tells the disciples. I mean she keeps quiet and doesn't tell anyone. Okay, she doesn't tell anyone for a few minutes and then gabs it around town, that works.

But, on the way back to the town Jesus appears before the two marys, I mean one mary but she didn't recognise him and they recognised him and they go over and worship. Well actually they didn't see Jesus at all but a vision of angels told her that Jesus was alive so it was all okay.

So they go to Galilee and meet Jesus, except they don't because they just hang around in a room in Jerusalem instead. Okay, so they're all wherever they are all eleven of them, except Didymus isn't there right so there's ten of them, he must have gotten confused and gone to the other place instead.

They're all sitting there when Jesus rocks up and they're all really happy to see him. Which is to say they were scared shitless about the ghost they saw. So jesus says hi, how's it going? asks for some fish and talks a bit about salvation. Except he doesn't and he shouts at them for not believing. But he appears before them all, (except didymus who's not there) and they do believe but didymus doesn't so he gets back and jesus appears yet again and didymus fingers his holes.

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Anyone else a little confused about what actually happened? But nah, it's a perfect book. No contradictions.
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headofthefield
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:36 pm
Imposter, I don't know what you mean?
AU, I ment God. Is your father au1929 senior.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:44 pm
Head
I think it is time for you to lighten up.

you wrote
AU, I ment God.

It's alright to call me AU, I will forgive you. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 02:31 pm
thunder_runner32 wrote:
theantibuddah wrote:
If I wanted bullshit answers like sunrises and births and puppy dogs and smiles on little girl's faces then there are entire stores filled with the fridge magnets of such "precious little miracles".

It's quite clear that when I asked for miracles I didn't mean, please leap in and take credit for the thousands of things that science has already explained, on behalf of your god.


O.K...I've kept my cool...THERE IS NO WAY EVOLUTION COULD HAVE CREATED US!!!! DNA studies have shown that no new information is ever gained, when mutations occur in a species, DNA information is lost...if anything, we are all un-evolving. There has never been a transitional fossil found...uhhhh...cause there are none!! We have found millions of fossils, and never one that has showed a link between species!! Everytime this is brought up, atheists either add more years to earth, or make something else up. They tried to use embryos to show that during developement, we trace the evolutionary path(Haekel's Drawings) that was proven wrong like 50 years ago, yet it is still commonly accepted as a fact. I'm sorry but everything (matter) being created by something not of the physical world (God) makes a little more sense than...uhhh, nothing triggered it, but somehow everything was created by absolutely nothing, even if there was matter before that, where did that matter come from? We all know that the universe has not existed for ever, where did that first matter come from. It boggles my mind how some people just believe something, and they don't even have an answer to where it all came from (atheists). I'm sorry, but you will never find the answer if you want to rely on science. To rely on science is not bad, but it cannot be used to explain everything. If one more atheist tells me that I am following blindly, I will f***ing flip!! That is the most hypocritical statement created by man! If you truly have an open mind (many of you claim to have) then you will realize that there are things that cannot be explained by science or your senses, and if you disregard them, you will never find the truth.


Quite true...but that shouldn't lead to Christianity or religion.

It should...to anyone truly with an open mind...lead to agnosticism.

We don't know the answers to the questions being asked here. Science cannot give us those answers...but it at least makes an effort to do so in a reasonable way.

Religions are a joke when dealing with these questions.

In any case...as I noted...all this shyt should not lead to religion...but to agnosticism.
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Anonymous
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 06:10 pm
There has been a lot of bashing going around on the last few pages, from both sides of the issue. And all of this pashing has lead this thread way off topic. Every single thread in this forum always turns into Creation vs. Evolution. If you want to discuss it that badly, I suggest making a separate topic about it, instead of hijacking every last thread on this forum!
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lefty06
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 07:43 pm
Come on, 00AK, this was a good debate up until about page 31. But it can die now as far as I'm concerned. It's just getting childish.
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