Conservative Values Highlighted

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I'm starting to lose trackof all of them, and I'm sure many others are too, so I thought it might be good to have a place to keep all of the Conservative Values highlighted for quick reference. If anyone forgets what values our country was built on or what family values we are supposed to hold up as ideal, we can just check back here.

I'll start:

Evidently Jeff Gannon, the softball question thrower at presidential briefings, has the family values we are to uphold.

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http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/holy-crap_08.html

The blogosphere has dug up some really really really creepy stuff about that pseudo-reporter with the pseudonym who the White House lets ask all the softball questions about their briefings. His pseudonym is Jeff Gannon, and well, the folks at DailyKos, and Eschaton, have been doing a little digging around on him.

It's a long and sordid tale, but let me give it to you in a nutshell. Mr. Gannon's home page is JeffGannon.com. Well, JeffGannon.com is owned by a person and company that owns the following Web addresses as well:

Hotmilitarystud.com
Militaryescorts.com
Militaryescortsm4m.com

And for those of you who are really straight or really clueless, "m4m" is a gay online term for men who are looking to have sex with other men, and "escort" means prostitute. And being a military escort is also against the Uniform Code of Military Justice in at least two different ways, if not more.

And you can read about it here:

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http://blogs.salon.com/0002874/2005/02/08.html

Remember "Jeff Gannon," the White House reporter who lobs softballs at Scottie McClellan when the other mean reporters won't let up with the real questions?

The "Jeff Gannon" who accused his colleagues of "working off the talking points provided by the Democrats" and then was found to have copied info directly from GOP documents and used it in his "news report"?

This would be the same "Jeff Gannon" who was subpoenaed in connection with the Plame investigation because he somehow obtained a copy of a purported State Dept. document which said that Ms. Plame had a hand in arranging the assignment to Niger for her husband (an allegation -- and document -- denied by the CIA).

Yes, we're talking about "Jeff Gannon, Washington Bureau Chief, Talon News" -- Talon News being the rinkydink wingnut "news service" chaired by the same guy who runs GOP USA (the wingnut site that is less upscale than Renew American, but slightly more professional than BushCountryUSA, and apparently run by various members of the Texas GOP).

Anyway, ever since it was revealed that "Jeff Gannon" is a pseudonym (even though he apparently gets daily White House passes issued in that name), ...

Add your own Republican/ Compassionate Conservative / Christian Values news examples below. I can't possibly find them all myself.

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I like this one too.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/8/12123/29391

While its previous owners considered adult entertainment "immoral," Adelphia Communications Corp., the country's fifth-largest cable television provider, last week became the first to offer hard-core adult films on pay-per-view to its subscribers [...]
Viewers can watch such sexually explicit movies in the Hilton and Marriott hotel chains on video services like LodgeNet or on "On Command," which is owned by Liberty Media, formerly a part of AT&T; at home via DirecTV, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp; or via virtually every cable company, including Cox, Time Warner and Comcast [...]

While the corporations generate millions in profits from providing adult content, their political contributions are often given to those elected, in no small part, because of their stance on "moral values."

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Comcast Cable has given millions in political donations since 1998. The national Republican Party committees are its biggest organizational recipient, with donations totaling $851,000. President Bush is its biggest individual recipient with $109,000 in donations.

Adelphia has given $166,000 to Republican committees, $17,000 to conservative Rep. John Peterson, R-Pa., and $12,000 to Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., one of the most conservative members of the Senate.

In this world of irony, corporate leaders at companies as diverse as News Corp., Marriott International and Time Warner can profit by selling red state consumers the very material that red state culture is supposed to despise. Those elites then funnel the proceeds to the GOP, which in turn has used the money to successfully convince red state voters that the other political party is solely responsible for the decline of the civilization.

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I guess I am confused. Where in anything you write is there any hint of a conservative value? All you have done is point out that some reporter who has asked a lot of softball questions of the president has values more appropriate for the gutter than anywhere else (I will give the benefit of the doubt that the facts reported on said blog are accurate). Does this guy run around touting conservative values and thus you are claiming he is a hypocrite? If so, you failed at making that point.

Or are you so desperate to make fun of conservative values that you will grasp at anything? That seems to be more the point here.

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The point is that he's a plant, to assist in getting out the mesage, whatever that message might be for the day of the briefing. He "works" for a "news" organization (Talon / GOP USA) run by various members of the Texas GOP, but is presented as a real news person with White House press credentials. He also writes in contradiction to his actions, if you refer to the archives of his articles as shown in the first linked story.

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Umm, okay. I just read that, and while the words appear to be those of the english language and placed within correct grammatical order... I just don't get what the point is.

I feel like you've randomly grabbed a couple of newspaper articles here and slapped them on the net with an unrelated headline. Want to be less cryptic? Throw us a hint.

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Is this BPB posting under squinney's name???

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Brand X wrote:

Is this BPB posting under squinney's name???

In my experience BPB is more lucid.

Edited to include: Damnit. I keep thinking of his name as bisexual polar bear and then realise a moment later that that's wrong. Yet I still do it every time.

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Unfortunately, his articles appear to have disappeared of the net after he quit.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/breaking-news-gop-pseudo-journalist.html

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squinney wrote:

The point is that he's a plant, to assist in getting out the mesage, whatever that message might be for the day of the briefing. He "works" for a "news" organization (Talon / GOP USA) run by various members of the Texas GOP, but is presented as a real news person with White House press credentials. He also writes in contradiction to his actions, if you refer to the archives of his articles as shown in the first linked story.

I won't argue with any of your above points. But writers all tend, at one time or another and for whatever reason, to report on things which may contradict their own lifestyle choices. So I still don't understand why any of what you are writing has anything to do with your topic of highlighting conservative values. You haven't highlighted any conservative value. But rather have highlighted some reporter (planted or otherwise) who lobs softball questions at the president and writes favorably about his conservative programs but is really not conservative in his lifestyle. So what?

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The orgy of impropriety marches on.
There's one other thing that raises our curiosity about who or what is behind "Gannon." It seems that when he wasn't bashing Kerry, he paid a ton of attention to the Thune vs. Daschle Senate race in South Dakota. One blog that seemed to think "Gannon" was an authoritative journalist and linked to at least one of his reports was called "Daschle v. Thune."
If that name sounds familiar, it should. It later was reported that the author of the blog, Jon Lauck, was a former Thune campaign staffer and was paid $27,000 by Thune's 2004 campaign while he was producing the Web site.

So let us get this straight: The top Democrat in the Senate loses a race where the GOP sets up a phony blog that passes along news reports from a pseudo media organization, written by a reporter given White House credentials under a fake name

http://www.oliverwillis.com/node/view/1780

Perhaps if you don't "get it" it's because it's not the conservative values generally touted, but rather the real values of the party. #1 value evidently being that lying and deceiving is okay.

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squinney wrote:

Perhaps if you don't "get it" it's because it's not the conservative values generally touted, but rather the real values of the party. #1 value evidently being that lying and deceiving is okay.

Those are not conservative values. You are talking political values. And you can look at just about any president/administration to get an example of those values. They are all good at spouting morality and values while doing what is necessary to feed the political machine of party politics.

But none of this has a thing to do with "highlighting" conservative values. Which is what you titled this thread. Now if you want to discuss how our elected officials will do whatever needed to make themselves look good, get re-elected, keep the other side from getting elected, then maybe I see the point of your article. But that discussion would go way beyond one party or the other. It would cross both political and conservative/liberal boundaries.

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It's not very logical to describe a few conservatives who are also stupid idiots and say, "See, conservatives ideas are bad." It would be like trying to condemn liberal ideas by displaying a few stupid liberals. Elementary incorrect logic.

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Here here.

I'm very much with Brandon and Coastal rat on this one.

Firstly, lying is one of the defining elements of determining someone is a politician.

Is he dressed richly?
Yes.
Can he do maths?
No.
Okay, not an accountant. Does he lie to people?
Yes.
Hmmm... politician or lawyer. Tough one.

Secondly, judging the party on a few incidents is inappropriate.

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Secondly, judging the party on a few incidents is inappropriate.

Why? Neoconservatives do it all the time against liberals. Seems to be fair game in the world of politics.

Conservative values breaks down to this: appease your minions with your conservative values, but look the other way while you pander smut to make a profit (because there are profits to be made in porn). Do conservatives on this thread honestly believe that only liberals and the left watch porn?

The lies against John Kerry were massive, and Jerome Corsi is still out there pushing his books. Lying and deceiving are standard fair for neoconservatives. It's how they've won the White House and Congress. And with Rove's recent promotion, they'll go much further in these next four years.

Absolutely pathetic.

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Dookiestix wrote:

Why? Neoconservatives do it all the time against liberals. Seems to be fair game in the world of politics.

So in a thread convicting neoconservatives you defend your actions based on the fact that neoconservatives do it as well. This doesn't strike you as being the least hypocritical?

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If I had any "values" I would be a Republican, however, since I am a liberal anarchist I remain valueless.

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dyslexia wrote:

If I had any "values" I would be a Republican, however, since I am a liberal anarchist I remain valueless.

I'm not worth anything...no value at all.

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I'm with squinney on this, just don't have time to help dig up more material.

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Brand X wrote:

I'm not worth anything...no value at all.

I'd pay $2.50 for you.

I don't get what peoples' political allegiance has to do with this. I'm against squinster on principles, not politics.

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theantibuddha wrote:

Brand X wrote:
I'm not worth anything...no value at all.

I'd pay $2.50 for you.

I don't get what peoples' political allegiance has to do with this. I'm against squinster on principles, not politics.

Thanks, you're a kind virtual being. :wink:

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