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Q. What's will really happen to Iraq's oil?

 
 
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 02:26 pm
I read that article and now I feel like I need a bath. What a bunch of...well, what a load of..., yeah.

*sigh*

People believe this stuff. Crying or Very sad
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akobadgeth
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 02:26 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
I wouldn't consider VOX a reliable source. But that is just me. It looks like a conspiracy website to me.

Correct me if I am wrong here people.


read it all before you jump to conclutions !!
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akobadgeth
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 02:28 pm
McGentrix wrote:
I read that article and now I feel like I need a bath. What a bunch of...well, what a load of..., yeah.

*sigh*

People believe this stuff. Crying or Very sad


you read the whole article with the relavent links, in what about 10 minutes Question
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 02:30 pm
Well, yeah. Even with the grey on white poor design.
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akobadgeth
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 02:37 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Well, yeah. Even with the grey on white poor design.



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akobadgeth
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 02:57 pm
getting back to the topic :

Iraq's oil money - $20 billion hidden by US so far and counting

A United Nations panel has found that the US-led occupation authority failed to exercise proper controls over Iraq's oil industry and could not say how much oil had gone missing since the fall of Saddam Hussein.

The International Advisory and Monitoring Board report also said there were "important weaknesses" in the management by occupation officials of up to $20bn in Iraqi funds, mostly from oil sales.

US politicians have often accused the UN of incompetence and, perhaps, corruption in its handling of the oil-for-food programme, a scheme to alleviate Iraqi suffering under sanctions before the war. Now the boot is on the other foot.

Revenue 'lost'

The panel, which also includes representatives from the IMF and the World Bank, expressed particular concern about how large contracts paid out of Iraqi funds were given to US firms, such as the oil services group Halliburton, without competitive bidding.

Other problems identified included weaknesses in administration, inadequate accounting systems, poor record-keeping and a failure to follow procedures that had been agreed.

The panel's report says the US-led authorities also failed to deal with widespread smuggling of Iraqi oil out of the country immediately after the war. Nobody knows how much revenue for reconstruction was lost as a result.

It also says there were inadequate controls to prevent the misuse or theft of funds at Iraqi government ministries.


SOURCE

BBC News, "US 'failed to control' Iraq oil", 15 December 2004.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4098729.stm ]
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akobadgeth
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 03:32 pm
What happened to Iraq's oil money?

Former U.S. official
says billions of dollars
were ?'squandered'

NBC News
Updated: 7:21 p.m. ET Nov. 30, 2004After the U.S. invasion of Iraq, the United States took control of all of the Iraqi government's bank accounts, including the income from oil sales. The United Nations approved the financial takeover, and President Bush vowed to spend Iraq's money wisely. But now critics are raising serious questions about how well the United States handled billions of dollars in Iraqi oil funds.


Iraq's oil resources generate billions of dollars ?- money the United States promised to protect after overthrowing Saddam Hussein.

Now, Frank Willis, a former senior American official in Iraq, tells NBC News the United States failed to safeguard the oil money known as the Development Fund for Iraq.

"There was, in my mind, pervasive leakage in assets of Iraq, and to some extent, those assets were squandered," says Willis.

Willis helped run Iraq's Transportation Ministry. He says government agencies and private contractors had to be paid in cash because Iraq's banking system was decimated.

"A lot of money did get to the Iraqi people at the grass-roots level, and a lot of it got into the wrong hands," he says.

In one photograph, Willis and colleagues showed off a $2 million payment to a security contractor.

"It was time for payment," he remembers. "We told them to come in and bring in a bag. It reminded me of the Wild West."

In a series of reports on U.S. management of the oil money, auditors working for the United Nation's Iraq Advisory and Monitoring Board and the Inspector General of the Coalition Provisional Authority found:

Insufficient controls
Missing records
Two sets of books at Iraq's Finance Ministry, which did not match
In one example of insufficient controls, the United States stored hundreds of millions of oil dollars in a vault in a Baghdad palace. Government auditors found that the key to the vault was kept "unsecured" ?- in a U.S. official's backpack.

Iraq's U.S. administrator, Paul Bremer, pledged last year to hire a certified public accounting firm to ensure proper controls. But the United States gave the contract not to an accounting firm but to a tiny consulting company, Northstar ?- which NBC News found is headquartered at a private home near San Diego.

"They violated the rules. They picked a contractor who didn't meet their requirements," says Paul Light, a government contracting expert and professor at New York University.

Northstar's president says the Pentagon knew Northstar was not a certified public accounting firm and that four experienced employees went to Iraq and did a good job. However, one audit notes that a single Northstar employee maintained spreadsheets tracking billions of dollars.

Bremer would not comment. His aides say Iraq is a war zone and their top priority was getting money quickly where it was needed, even if the accounting wasn't perfect.

But NBC News has learned that a draft government audit faults the United States for "inadequate stewardship" of up to $8.8 billion in oil money, handed over to Iraq's ministries but never fully accounted for.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6621523/
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 09:54 pm
Quote:
Then I woul honor the individual who can conclusively deunk this theory. But, "because Bush said it ain't so" won't cut it.


Watch your own closed-midedness there again. I will say again I despeise Bush's policies but I also depsise how liberals try and paint him as either a retard or a criminal mastermind. I mean seriously which one is he? He cant be both. IMO he's just a slightly misguided man. WE can't debunk it for another couple years when America leaves and it is shown that peronal oil gain was not in the mix.
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