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Is It Europe?

 
 
Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:38 am
I am beginning to think Europe is going to be the greatest threat to the USA...not counting ourselves of course.......your thoughts?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:40 am
I read something about this a while ago and will go look it up. Basically, someone made a compelling argument that while we wallow in the mud with third world countries, Europe will rise up as an economic super power. To some extent, I think this is already happening.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:47 am
I think will start to rise up, but crumble as various countries start losing their soveriegn powers. Especially those countries in Eastern Europe. France and Germany will be seen as oppressors and there will start to be fissures in the EU.

I do not believe Europe is as stable as we wish it to be.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:48 am
January 26, 2005
Stories of Imperial Collapse Are Getting OldAll civilizations erode, but few citizenries are as sensitive to the signs of decay as Americans, who constantly innovate, experiment, and self-critique in a fashion unknown anywhere else. When we develop a class system based on British aristocratic breeding, accent, and social paralysis, or sink into a multicultural cauldron like the endemic violence of an India or Africa, or cease believing in either God or children like an Amsterdam or Brussels, or require the state coercion of a China to maintain harmony, or become a racialist state such as Japan, then it is time to worry.

But we are not there yet by a long shot.



http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson012605.html
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:52 am
I doubt that economic competition could be ranked as being as great a threat as a WMD attack on one or more of our cities, which is basically the threat from the 3rd world countries of the Middle East.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:54 am
McGentrix wrote:
I think will start to rise up, but crumble as various countries start losing their soveriegn powers. Especially those countries in Eastern Europe. France and Germany will be seen as oppressors and there will start to be fissures in the EU.

I do not believe Europe is as stable as we wish it to be.


But the concept of what they're doing with the EU is more or less the same concept as that of a United States of America. Texas and California are still here, even if some people do view them as oppressors. Basically, the benefits of a common currency and freedom of movement outweight the restrictions of a central government. Just my opinion, though.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:56 am
JW, I don't think there will necessarily be an imperial collapse of the sort talked about in the article. But the argument that unified Europe will supplant us as the dominant world power is compelling.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:00 am
Here's one of the articles I was thinking of.

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2004/11/15/europe/index1.html

You'll need to watch a short advertisement to read it all, and I confess it leans left in its dealing with the current admin, but it's essentially a book review and I think it's interesting.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:01 am
Maybe this old thread will be of some help:

The Real War: US and the European Union
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:02 am
Bingo!
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:03 am
Is it against the rules to C&P Salon articles?

Seems Blatham links to Salon often as well and never posts the article either.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:05 am
No, I don't think it's against the rules. This particular article is 4 pages long, though.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:10 am
Oh.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:48 am
Just Wonders.... first chair fiddle in the A2K orchestra... Laughing
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:55 am
Economic growth in China was 9%+ last year, that is a bigger threat to the EU than the EU is to the US.
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Idaho
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 12:20 pm
I guess it would depend on what you mean by "threat." I don't consider economic competition threatening - I consider it healthy economics. That kind of "threat" is welcome.
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