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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 06:34 pm
@oralloy,
snowpack is in fact declining

Look at the pictures. Read the article. Californi is just emerging from a years-long drought which adversely impacts snowfall, and it looks like the two-eyars or so respite has gone back to drought, and much of CA is naturally desert-like.
you're backimng bpogosity again.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 06:37 pm
@MontereyJack,
It's hard to tell whether that is true or not given the way the data is being cherry picked by ideological leftists.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 06:47 pm
@oralloy,
appears to me the denialists are the ones cherry picking the data by throwing out at least 99.99% of it.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 07:28 pm
@MontereyJack,
Denialists are not blocking any data from being published.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 07:38 pm
@oralloy,
You can't
block it because there's too much and it's too well documented, but you';re ceaselessly and futilely putting your efforts into a doomed attempt to discredit it.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 07:47 pm
@MontereyJack,
Leftist climate propaganda discredits itself. We just point out reality.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 10:26 pm
@oralloy,
If you were pointing out reality, you'd look at the data widely available, from many different disciplines, gathered in many different ways all of which say global warming i real, and we're doing it. conservatives value ideology over reality.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 11:11 pm
@MontereyJack,
Cherry picked data doesn't reflect reality. It reflects the bias of the people who did the cherry picking.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 07:31 am
@oralloy,
claiming it's cherry-picked reflects your bias, not the data or the reality.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 01:11 pm
@MontereyJack,
Wrong again. It's been proven that climate journals are cherry picking data to match leftist ideology.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 03:21 pm
@oralloy,
As opposed to republicans who just outright lie thereby negating having to prove any of their lying opinions.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 07:41 pm
@oralloy,
Wromg.You hacve ONE journal article, NOT "journals", not published because among other things the peer reviewers didn't think it was up to snuff, for whatever reason. The conclusions the article came to did not in fact ;prove to be true. Farmer several years ago produced an IGU article which was baswd on further research and hareached the opposite conclusion .
Thealleged suppressiion is only in your own mind and the mind of whatever denialist you got it from, since I find it highly unlikely you acctually read the Journal of Climate yourself.This really is just another baseless consspiracy theory you''ve fallen for.Snowpack IS declining and spring is coming earlir,which makesyour position even more problematic.

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As Snow Disappears, the Sierras and Rockies Are Shrinking
An analysis of 36 years of snowpack shows that the US's peaks are shrinking, and that means more wildfires, less drinking water ... and less skiing.
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THEmountains of the High Sierra and the Rockies are, in effect, shrinking, according to a new analysis of the nation’s snowpack over the past 36 years. These places are experiencing a shorter winter with less snow, just like regions closer to sea level.

That’s not good news for ski resorts and snowmobilers, as well as rural homeowners worried about wildfires that erupt in the summer and fall, experts say. In fact, it’s not so good for anyone living in Los Angeles, Phoenix or Denver, either. High mountain snowpack supplies drinking water throughout vast areas of Northern California and the Mountain West.

Some parts of the western United States have seen a 41 percent decline in the annual mass of snow since 1982. The affected region is about the size of South Carolina, according to a research team led by Xubin Zeng, professor of hydrology and atmospheric sciences at the University of Arizona. “For the future, that percentage will keep increasing,” says Zeng, who presented his findings at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in Washington.

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At the same time, the length of the snow season shrank by 34 days for the snowiest regions. Zeng used data collected by a network of backyard weather collectors who report snowfall every day to the National Weather Service across the United States, as well as an automated system of recording devices in the high mountains. These machines use 10-foot-wide rubber bladders filled with an anti-freeze solution that weigh how much snow lies on top of them.

Zeng and his colleagues then divided up the continental US into 2.5-mile squares to get a finer-resolution picture of how much snow was on the ground and for how long. Previous snowpack estimates used much larger 40-mile squares. A paper based on the new data is being published today in the Journal of Geophysical Letters.

The western snowpack is vital to maintaining drinking water for tens of millions of people from Denver to San Diego, as well as supporting a healthy forest ecosystem. Amato Evan, an atmospheric scientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, used the snowpack dataset to look at the arrival and duration of winters in the Sierras and Rockies.

“The summer is coming earlier, and fall is coming later, so the snowpack is being squeezed in on both sides,” Evan says. “The mountains are shrinking, they are getting smaller in terms of snowpack. This is the first time someone has shown this result in observations.”

Even though snowfall can vary from year to year, the researchers say that looking over a long period of time gives them a more accurate measurement of where things are headed in the future. The declining western snowpack and shorter snow season is already fueling wildfires like the Camp Fire that destroyed the town of Paradise, California. That relationship seems obvious, but it was only just confirmed by satellite images, according to Donal O’Leary, a graduate student in geography at the University of Maryland.

“There are more wildfires during years of early snowmelt,” says O’Leary, who is also presenting his findings at the AGU meeting. “We are 95 percent confident in this relationship.”

All three researchers said that climate change, which is bringing warmer temperatures and greater rainfall to some areas, is to blame. “Our winters are getting sick and we know the reason why,” Evan said. “It’s global warming and rising temperatures. It’s the only logical explanation for what’s happening.” Things are likely going to get worse. A separate study published last month in the same journal predicts that California's 10 major river watersheds could see an average of a nearly 80 percent drop in snowpack meltwater by 2100.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 08:48 pm
@MontereyJack,
No, when journals suppress data, that suppression is quite real.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 10:16 pm
@oralloy,
just proved the article supposedly suppressed was wrong, ergo you're wrong.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 10:23 pm
@MontereyJack,
When reality differs with the progressive narrative, it's not reality that is wrong.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 10:25 pm
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 10:43 pm
@oralloy,
Branco should read some of the global warming research instead of drawing dumbass cartoons on subjects he knows nothing about. So should you.


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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2020 10:45 pm
@oralloy,
nko it's the conservative narrative that's moronic and fantasy.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2020 06:31 pm
@MontereyJack,
Hey guys. Quit worrying. I understand a 2 mile wide asteroid is headed this way. After it hits none of us will have anything to worry about. Have a nice day.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 12 Sep, 2020 07:29 am
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