@Glennn,
Glennn wrote: If you fail to do so this time, I will assume that you have nothing to substantiate your belief.
You have nothing to substantiate anything about your understanding of climate or science generally.
Quote:What is also clear is that despite the IPCC's acceptance of the flaws in the dataset below, you maintain that their credibility remains intact. That's an indefensible proposition.
I have posted many things that are simply true. They don't require substantiation unless you don't understand basic science. You could google wikipedia entries on anything I've discussed and understand what I'm talking about for yourself. Instead you engage in some empty debate about sources to imply there is something being said that's unsubstantiated. You're just trying to argue a side in a political debate by posturing.
Instead of posturing and debating on a political level, why don't you just discuss your view of how climate works and see if there is something you are missing because you don't fully understand the science?
Quote:Also, are you of the opinion that global warming does not precede increases in Co2?
There are various factors that can influence global temperature averages and climate generally. CO2 and other greenhouse gases are not the only factors, but they have effects in addition to whatever all the other factors are doing.
If the sun, for example, flared up and caused the ground to heat up more and heat up the atmosphere more, that heating would be amplified by greenhouse gases because they blanket whatever heat is generated on the ground.
Not only CO2 but also H2O (in addition to all the other greenhouse gases, such as methane) are affected by various factors, including heat. Air holds more water as its temperature rises, and cooling is required for H2O to condense and precipitate out of the air.
With CO2, it can't condense except by trees and plants absorbing it. It can dissolve into waterways, but it will bubble back out like fizz coming out of soda pop.
You have to understand how the carbon-cycle and water-cycle works and their relationship to energy and heat generally. Then you will understand how other factors that influence climate cannot mute the effects of industrial energy use and land-clearing/paving/development.