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Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

 
 
High Seas
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 08:30 pm
@georgeob1,
Nah! Let him nag all he likes. 2 psychologists at UC Berkeley have come up with an explanation on why continual nagging messages will eventually lead to apathy in the listeners. Now any idiot without a Ph.D. in psychology already knew that, but these 2 felt they should advertise the blindingly obvious:
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APOCALYPSE SOON? DIRE MESSAGES REDUCE BELIEF IN GLOBAL WARMING

And no, I didn't make that up, honest - here's the link: http://willer.berkeley.edu/FeinbergWiller2011.pdf
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2011 03:21 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:


Oh come on Walter ! The use of the euphamism "climate change" began began only when some of the distortions and unscientific excesses of the global warming cultists were exposed.


Really? I'd thought - and that was how I was taught meteorology - that "global warming" is one part of 'climate change'.
And that was ... more than 30 years ago.

Edit: the term was used in scientific reports the first time (as far as my university's database let's me look it up from outside the intranet) in 1975: “Climatic Change: Are We on the Brink of a Pronounced Global Warming?”, by Wallace Broecker (August 8, 1975).
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2011 03:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Well, a normal internet search comes up with the very same result:
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Science 8 August 1975:
Vol. 189 no. 4201 pp. 460-463
DOI: 10.1126/science.189.4201.460
Climatic Change: Are We on the Brink of a Pronounced Global Warming?
Wallace S. Broecker


I'm am 100% sure that we had these terms in German before 1975: "Erderwärmung" which is part of the "Klimawechsel".
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2011 03:36 pm
IN THE LAST 100 YEARS, THE AVERAGE AND MEAN ANNUAL GLOBAL TEMPERATURES INCREASED 1°C (1.8°F)
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http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb
As of December 20, 2007, more than 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries have voiced significant objections to major aspects of the alleged UN IPCC "consensus" on man-made global warming.
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Paul C. Knappenberger, a senior researcher with New Hope Environmental Services, has published numerous peer-reviewed studies related to climate change, including a 2006 study questioning the linkage between global warming and severe hurricanes. Knappenberger also serves as administrator for the skeptical climate change website www.WorldClimateReport.com. The website’s stated goal is to “point out the weaknesses and outright fallacies in the science that is being touted as ‘proof’ of disastrous warming.” The website also describes itself as the “definitive and unimpeachable source for what [the journal] Nature now calls the ‘mainstream skeptic’ point of view, which is that climate change is a largely overblown issue and that the best expectation is modest change over the next 100 years.” (LINK)

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Climatologist Dr. Robert Balling of Arizona State University, the former head of the university’s Office of Climatology, has served as a climate consultant to the United Nations Environment Program, the World Climate Program, the World Meteorological Organization, and the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Balling, who has also served in the UN IPCC, would have preferred former Vice President Al Gore had won the presidency in 2000. He has authored several books on global warming, including The Heated Debate and The Satanic Gases. Balling expressed skepticism about man-made climate fears in 2007. "In my lifetime, this global-warming issue might fade away," Balling said in a November 11, 2007 interview with the Arizona Republic newspaper. Noting the pressure he feels as a skeptical scientist, Balling explained, "Somehow I've been branded this horrible person who belongs in the depths of hell." He added, "There's just no tolerance right now." The article explained, “Balling's research over the years has explored sun activity, pollution from volcanoes, the urban-heat-island effect and errors in past temperature models as possible causes of rising temperatures.” (LINK) [Updated 12/26/07]

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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jan, 2011 11:26 am
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/global-jan-dec-error-bar-pg.gif
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/global-jan-dec-error-bar-pg.gif
Jan-Dec Global Mean Temperature over Land & Ocean
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/nhshgl.gif
Average Annual Global Temperature 1850-2010
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/nhshgl.gif
Average Annual Global Temperature 1850-2010
http://www.biocab.org/Solar_Irradiance_English.jpg
http://www.biocab.org/Solar_Irradiance_English.jpg
Solar Irradiance 1611 t0 2001

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Mauna_Loa_Carbon_Dioxide.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Mauna_Loa_Carbon_Dioxide.png
CO2 Density Trend 1958-2008

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2011 03:16 pm
An International research team has discovered that seasonal temperatures in Europe, above all in winter, have been affected over the past 500 years by natural factors such as volcanic eruptions and solar activity, and by human activities such as the emission of greenhouse gases.

“The influence of the increase in levels of greenhouse gases, in particular, can be clearly seen since the end of the 17th Century”, Jesús Fidel González Rouco, a physicist at the Complutense University of Madrid and co-author of the study.


The international group that conducted the study included experts from the University of Edinburgh (UK), the Complutense University (Spain), the Justus-Liebig University Giesen (Germany) and the University of Berne (Switzerland).
Nature Geoscience, 16 de enero de 2011 (avance on line). DOI: 10.1038/NGEO1057.

Source
satt fs
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2011 05:40 pm
The other day, Jan 16 to be precise, luckily I could see the Bering Strait through a window of a plane from JFK to Tokyo. It seemed that the sea surface there was not frozen in the strict sense of the word "frozen", but was overlaid with plates of thin ice. I do not know it is the usual situation of the region.
okie
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 09:00 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

An International research team has discovered that seasonal temperatures in Europe, above all in winter, have been affected over the past 500 years by natural factors such as volcanic eruptions and solar activity, and by human activities such as the emission of greenhouse gases.
That is amazing, Walter. I would never have dreamed that things like natural factors could affect seasonal temperatures in Europe !!
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 02:20 am
Good work, okie. Now read the rest of the sentence.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 03:40 am
@okie,
okie wrote:
I would never have dreamed that things like natural factors could affect seasonal temperatures in Europe !!


Well, you never stop learning, isn't it, okie?

But I'm sure that you've read, scientist you are, certainly the whole report ... .
However, due to your professional skill in skipping the importing parts, unfortunately you have missed the topic of this report.
Krumple
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 04:21 am
"Global Warming" or "Global Climate Change" being the effects of human activity is a scam. It is a scam to get people into the mode so governments can create a new form of taxation. Consumption tax. It's bad enough that they want to tax you on what you buy but then they want to turn around and tax you on what you use. Double whammy.

Its obviously a scam because just look at those who are leading the crusade... It's like if a hippy came up to you while snacking on a mix bar and said to you, "You know we should really do something about global pollution." Then proceeded to toss the wrapper on the ground. Politicians just want to control what people consume but they themselves consume far more than the average person does. So how does that make any sense let alone them telling others that they should consume less?

It's nothing more than the "haves" telling the "havenots" they can't have any more without paying for it.

I am not denying the fact that the earths climate is changing! It is but is it due to human activity? NO! The sun is the culprit behind global climate change and always has been and always will be. Small changes in solar activity create huge changes in earths climate. We know this for a fact, because we are living in between ice ages. We know that there have been repeated ice ages over the past history of the earth and to assume there will never be another ice age is ridiculous. What has happened repeatedly in the past is likely to happen again, but when, we can't say exactly for certain but we can look at the pattern and make a fairly good prediction. It will happen though and there is nothing humans can do to change, prevent or stop it from happening because the energy impact of the sun is far more than anything humans can create with carbon dioxide immersions.
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High Seas
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 06:55 am
@satt fs,
Pack ice? Satellites have been monitoring the region since the '60s as part of the early warning system, but NASA only publishes pictures since the '70s. Arctic sea ice reaches a maximum during Feb/March. Antarctic ice has kept increasing during that time, but is less well monitored. This is Arctic:
http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20110105_Figure1_thumb.png
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
okie
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 06:55 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
okie wrote:
I would never have dreamed that things like natural factors could affect seasonal temperatures in Europe !!
Well, you never stop learning, isn't it, okie?
So true. I would have never guessed for example that the sun had anything to do with earth's climate, until some high paid researchers were able to enlighten us about that!
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 11:39 pm
@okie,
I'm glad, okie, that you were able to read the full article - libraries do have some advantage, isn't it?
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satt fs
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 06:10 pm
@High Seas,
Acording to this image of "Land Surface Temperature Anomaly"(January 9-16, 2011), it is warmer in the region around the Bering Strait while it is colder in most areas in the central part of North America this winter.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/48000/48882/namericalsta_amo_2011009.jpg
satt fs
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 06:28 pm
@satt fs,
The image was taken from the following linked page..

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/
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High Seas
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 07:47 pm
@satt fs,
For some reason Walter would probably know the best measurements and maps of that area come from the University of Bremen, Germany:
http://nsidc.org/sotc/images/nwp_diagram.gif
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Northwest Passage: The maroon line marks the route of the Northwest Passage that opened up in 2007. Image courtesy University of Bremen.

http://nsidc.org/sotc/sea_ice.html
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2011 07:44 am
Owl Gore must be throwing a hissy fit right about now.

Himalayan glaciers are actually advancing rather than retreating, claims the first major
study since a controversial UN report said they would be melted within quarter of a century.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2011 05:23 pm
Waterman cant read worth a damn. If you read the article it says
'some glaciers are advancing not all.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2011 11:22 am
IN THE LAST 100 YEARS, THE AVERAGE AND MEAN ANNUAL GLOBAL TEMPERATURES INCREASED ABOUT 1°C (1.8°F)
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http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb
As of December 20, 2007, more than 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries have voiced significant objections to major aspects of the alleged UN IPCC "consensus" on man-made global warming.
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Meteorologist Brad Sussman, a member of the American Meteorological Society (AMS) and Seal holder and past officer of the National Weather Association (NWA), is currently with WJW-TV in Cleveland, Ohio. Sussman, a meteorologist for over 21 years, proudly calls himself a “denouncer of the very-flawed man-made global warming theory.” Sussman wrote to EPW on December 29, 2007 and explained that he “debunks [global warming] theory by using logic and humor.” According to Sussman, “global warming has been happening on and off for millions of years. Millions of years when mankind wasn't driving around in SUVs and using coal for electric power!” “Believing that mankind is unequivocally responsible for global warming is the ultimate arrogance. Sorry to be humble, but we’re not that special. When global warmers talk, listen to their words. The new catch phrase is: ‘The debate is over.’ The only people who say ‘The debate is over’ are people who are afraid to debate,” Sussman wrote. “’The debate is over?’ If we used that line of thinking, man would have never gone to the moon, the Wright Brothers would have never flown, and we’d still think the Sun rotated around the Earth,” he concluded. (LINK)

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