@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:Now we know you deniers don't believe in HadCrut anymore. Get with the program, ican. That graph is NASA/NOAA, our team. And you will notice what I keep telling you--2005 is the warmest year on record. Temps have NOT been going down since 2001. That graph actually covers the period through 2007, if you count the yearbars, and you will note the rolling average (the black line) is NOT going down.
HAdCrut, as established a few pages back, consistently lowballs global temperature increase, since it systematically undercounts the influence of temperature change above the Arctic Circle,, but if you look at the graphs you keep cutting and pasting, which DO NOT support your position, and try, for once, to notice what is really going on in them, you might actually begin to understand what is changing in the world.
Your post, Monterey Jack, is FALSE in the following respects:
(1) it is not true that we skeptics now question HadCrut's temperature data.
(2) we skeptics agree that the average global temperature has been increasing over the last century.
(3) we skeptics have not and do not believe that human caused emissions of CO2 contributed anymore than trivially to that temperature increase.
(4) the Hadcrut graph is not significantly lower than the NOAA graph. In the Hadcrut graph the average global temperature anomalies for 1910 and 2005 are about, respectively, -0.55 and +0.45 degrees Celsius--a 1.0 degree Celsius increase. Whereas the NOAA graph of average global temperature anaomalies for 1910 and 2005 are about, respectively, -0.34 and +0.56 degrees Celsius--a 0.9 degree Celsius increase.
(5) These differences are not significant enough to show that the Hadcrut graph doesn't support global warmiong, while the NOAA graph does support global warming--or vice versa.
(6) Nothing in these graphs show what the actual cause of that temperature increase was/is.
(7) both graphs imply a slight decreasing average
rate of global temperature increase since 2005.
Jan-Dec Global Mean Temperature over Land & Ocean
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/nhshgl.gif
Average Annual Global Temperature 1850-2009
Average Annual Global Temperature 1850-2009