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Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 07:33 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
You ever tried a Big Mac? It is a pile of doo doo.


Maybe that's how they make them in London. They're actually pretty tasty when you make them from beef. Is dog doo considered a safer alternative to beef over there?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 07:39 am
no, just a little play on words you know McDonald's DoDo...Doh never mind
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 07:43 am
blatham wrote:
I consider that positing moral truths or mandates outside of ourselves (vesting them in god or god's will) is a deceit.
Well thats what the neocons think, but they pretend otherwise. If Marx said religion is the opiate of the people, which neocon said Religion is the opiate of the people, thank God?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 08:13 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
no, just a little play on words you know McDonald's DoDo...Doh never mind


Trust me, I got that... and it was funny. Smile
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 08:35 am
cjhsa wrote:
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
no, just a little play on words you know McDonald's DoDo...Doh never mind


Trust me, I got that... and it was funny. Smile
ok Smile Of course here a Big Mac feeds a family of six for ... well I was going to say a week but the reality is about one nanosecond.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 08:56 am
Thomas wrote:
But no society is perfect, and if all is said and done, I would rather live in a world without Dodos than in a world without the civilization that extinguished them in the process of discovering Madagascar.

You mean Mauritius, not Madagascar.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 11:22 am
joefromchicago wrote:
Thomas wrote:
But no society is perfect, and if all is said and done, I would rather live in a world without Dodos than in a world without the civilization that extinguished them in the process of discovering Madagascar.

You mean Mauritius, not Madagascar.

You're right. Thanks for the correction. (Incidentally, I also meant not "if", but "when all is said and done".)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 02:55 pm
Speaking about islands ... oceans:

Quote:
In the looming future, global warming will reduce glaciers and storage packs of snow in regions around the world, causing water shortages and other problems that will impact millions of people. That is the conclusion of researchers at Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego, and the University of Washington in a review paper published in the November 17 issue of the journal Nature.

http://scrippsnews.ucsd.edu/pressreleases/images/Barnett_map_web.jpg

In analyzing several scenarios, Scripps Institution's Tim Barnett, and Jennifer Adam and Dennis Lettenmaier of the University of Washington, show that human-produced greenhouse gases, and the resulting warmer climates they produce, will have a significant influence on ice- and snow-dependent regions and will result in costly disruptions to water supply and resource management systems.


Scripps-led Study Shows Climate Warming to Shrink Key Water Supplies around the World
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 03:06 pm
Wouldn't you think if scientists were taking this all that seriously, they would be pushing governments to be devleoping the technology to making ocean water potable? Ocean water isn't going anywhere and there is plenty of it.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 03:17 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Wouldn't you think if scientists were taking this all that seriously, they would be pushing governments to be devleoping the technology to making ocean water potable? Ocean water isn't going anywhere and there is plenty of it.


You don't mean that response seriously, do you?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 03:20 pm
... not to mention that you can always build more reservoirs to compensate for the declining stock of snow in the mountains. It's an interesting paper that enumerates a number of real costs of global warming. But it does not tell us anything about the aggregate costs and benefits of global warming.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 03:34 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Wouldn't you think if scientists were taking this all that seriously, they would be pushing governments to be devleoping the technology to making ocean water potable? Ocean water isn't going anywhere and there is plenty of it.


You don't mean that response seriously, do you?


I certainly do. If there is credible evidence that a serious water shortage is just over the horizon due to global warming, it would make perfect sense to me to be addressing that problem now before the circumstances are critical.

And I have every faith in human ingenuity and creativity that when there is necessity to produce a lot more water from the oceans, then we will have the technoligy developed to do just that.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 03:56 pm
hmmmm... Some say global warming is responsible for more rain storms. hmmm.....
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 04:29 pm
c.i., they'd be wrong. It's all Bush's fault.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 04:32 pm
cjh, If you say so. Wink
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 05:41 am
As I said before, my interest in this is from the other perspective

http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/Hearings/12072005hearing1733/hearing.htm
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Louise R Heller
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 05:47 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Wouldn't you think if scientists were taking this all that seriously, they would be pushing governments to be devleoping the technology to making ocean water potable? Ocean water isn't going anywhere and there is plenty of it.


You don't mean that response seriously, do you?


I certainly do. If there is credible evidence that a serious water shortage is just over the horizon due to global warming, it would make perfect sense to me to be addressing that problem now before the circumstances are critical.

And I have every faith in human ingenuity and creativity that when there is necessity to produce a lot more water from the oceans, then we will have the technoligy developed to do just that.


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Desalination works have existed since deepest antiquity. They used treated goat gourds and such, we also got membranes electrical processes evaporation and many more.

Besides --- aren't all those icebergs icepacks and so on supposed to MELT???? Aren't there TRILLIONS of cubic meters of FRESH WATER trapped in them???? Something here concerning the "seriously" doesn't make SENSE !!!!!
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 05:56 pm
Louise_R_Heller wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Wouldn't you think if scientists were taking this all that seriously, they would be pushing governments to be devleoping the technology to making ocean water potable? Ocean water isn't going anywhere and there is plenty of it.


You don't mean that response seriously, do you?


I certainly do. If there is credible evidence that a serious water shortage is just over the horizon due to global warming, it would make perfect sense to me to be addressing that problem now before the circumstances are critical.

And I have every faith in human ingenuity and creativity that when there is necessity to produce a lot more water from the oceans, then we will have the technoligy developed to do just that.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Desalination works have existed since deepest antiquity. They used treated goat gourds and such, we also got membranes electrical processes evaporation and many more.

Besides --- aren't all those icebergs icepacks and so on supposed to MELT???? Aren't there TRILLIONS of cubic meters of FRESH WATER trapped in them???? Something here concerning the "seriously" doesn't make SENSE !!!!!


Well the icebergs are supposed to melt and mix with the salt water and though the desalination process that occurs in this way is supposed to upset the natural ocean currents, the water will not be potable. And yes, desalination processes are used just about everywhere but not on the huge scale that will be necessary if much of the world's fresh water supply dries up as is speculated a page or two back.

Thus I think if enough credible scientists are of the opinion that such a disaster is imminent, I would think the responsible thing would be to encourage governments to begin developing the technology to produce potable water from sea water on huge scales.

Shucks, if we get this technology down, we can draw enough water out of the oceans to irrigate crops, refill lakes and reservoirs, etc. and lower the ocean levels enough to uncover all the cities that are supposed to go under water. Smile

I mean if this is really a big problem that requires big solutions, then we need to really think big.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 06:17 pm
Something interesting about Antarctica water is that it's "fresh." One can actually see the division between the salt and fresh water. It's one of many fascinating things to see when you sail down to Antarctica.
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Louise R Heller
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 06:26 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Something interesting about Antarctica water is that it's "fresh." One can actually see the division between the salt and fresh water. It's one of many fascinating things to see when you sail down to Antarctica.


Have you never seen a river estuary???

You can ALWAYS see the division between fresh and salt water!!!
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