Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

The so-called "global warming" started long before we plastered our planet with carbon producing products.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport#report
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Physicist Wm. Robert Johnston, who co-wrote the scientific paper in 2007 "Observations of the Ionospheric Projection of the Plasmapause and Comparisons with Relativistic Electron Measurements" which was submitted to the GRL, expressed his skepticism about global warming in a December 29, 2005 report entitled "What If All the Ice Melts? - Myths and Realities." "The suggestions that human activities will cause significant changes in global temperature and sea level in the next century are flawed predictions which haven't been confirmed by observations. The solutions to this apparently non-existent problem proposed by environmentalists would not have a significant effect on climate, but they would cause a significant amount of human suffering," Johnston wrote. "Note that it has taken 18,000 years to melt 60% of the ice from the last ice age. The remaining ice is almost entirely at the north and south poles and is isolated from warmer weather. To melt the ice of Greenland and Antarctica would take thousands of years under any realistic change in climate. In the case of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet, which accounts for 80% of the Earth's current ice, Sudgen argues that it existed for 14,000,000 years, through wide ranges in global climate," Johnston explained. "It is sad that some youngsters think that burning of hydrocarbons could cause the ice caps to melt and drown cities; it is criminal when teachers don't correct this nonsense," he concluded. (LINK)

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However, having said that, it doesn't hurt for us to control the production of carbons, because they are harmful to our environment.

And you have definite, undeniable proof of this?

You need to post it, otherwise you arent being honest.

What Effect Do Greenhouse Gases Have on Climate Change?

In computer-based models, rising concentrations of greenhouse gases produce an increase in the average surface temperature of the Earth over time. Rising temperatures may, in turn, produce changes in precipitation patterns, storm severity, and sea level commonly referred to as “climate change.”

Assessments by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) suggest that the Earth’s climate has warmed between 0.6 and 0.9 degrees Celsius over the past century and that human activity affecting the atmosphere is “very likely” an important driving factor.1 The IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report (Summary for Policymakers) states, “Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.” It goes on to state, “The observed widespread warming of the atmosphere and ocean, together with ice mass loss, support the conclusion that it is extremely unlikely that global climate change of the past 50 years can be explained without external forcing, and very likely that it is not due to known natural causes alone.”

1 According to the IPCC “very likely” indicates that there is a 90 percent chance that this is the case.

In computer-based models, rising concentrations of greenhouse gases produce an increase in the average surface temperature of the Earth over time.

Assessments by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) suggest that the Earth’s climate has warmed between 0.6 and 0.9 degrees Celsius over the past century and that human activity affecting the atmosphere is “very likely” an important driving factor.

Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.

it is extremely unlikely that global climate change of the past 50 years can be explained without external forcing, and very likely that it is not due to known natural causes alone.”

1 According to the IPCC “very likely” indicates that there is a 90 percent chance that this is the case.

Gore: U.S. Climate Bill Will Help Bring About 'Global Governance'
Climate Depot Exclusive

Friday, July 10, 2009By Marc Morano " Climate Depot
Former Vice President Al Gore declared that the Congressional climate bill will help bring about “global governance.”

“I bring you good news from the U.S., “Gore said on July 7, 2009 in Oxford at the Smith School World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment, sponsored by UK Times.

“Just two weeks ago, the House of Representatives passed the Waxman-Markey climate bill,” Gore said, noting it was “very much a step in the right direction.” President Obama has pushed for the passage of the bill in the Senate and attended a G8 summit this week where he agreed to attempt to keep the Earth's temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees C.

Gore touted the Congressional climate bill, claiming it “will dramatically increase the prospects for success” in combating what he sees as the “crisis” of man-made global warming.

“But it is the awareness itself that will drive the change and one of the ways it will drive the change is through global governance and global agreements.” (Editor's Note: Gore makes the “global governance” comment at the 1min. 10 sec. mark in this UK Times video.)

Gore's call for “global governance” echoes former French President Jacques Chirac's call in 2000.

On November 20, 2000, then French President Chirac said during a speech at The Hague that the UN's Kyoto Protocol represented "the first component of an authentic global governance."

“For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance,” Chirac explained. “From the very earliest age, we should make environmental awareness a major theme of education and a major theme of political debate, until respect for the environment comes to be as fundamental as safeguarding our rights and freedoms. By acting together, by building this unprecedented instrument, the first component of an authentic global governance, we are working for dialogue and peace,” Chirac added.

Former EU Environment Minister Margot Wallstrom said, "Kyoto is about the economy, about leveling the playing field for big businesses worldwide." Canadian Prime Minster Stephen Harper once dismissed UN's Kyoto Protocol as a “socialist scheme.”

'Global Carbon Tax' Urged at UN Meeting

In addition, calls for a global carbon tax have been urged at recent UN global warming conferences. In December 2007, the UN climate conference in Bali, urged the adoption of a global carbon tax that would represent “a global burden sharing system, fair, with solidarity, and legally binding to all nations.”

“Finally someone will pay for these [climate related] costs,” Othmar Schwank, a global tax advocate, said at the 2007 UN conference after a panel titled “A Global CO2 Tax.”

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1893/Gore-US-Climate-Bill-Will-Help-Bring-About-Global-Governance

The real agenda re AGW appears more and more obvious to me. Does anybody else find this alarming?

But even if - do you know of any "global tax"?

Do you have any information to show that this is incorrect?

The real agenda re AGW appears more and more obvious to me. Does anybody else find this alarming?

Gore: U.S. Climate Bill Will Help Bring About 'Global Governance'

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The fact that they are funded by energy companies or automobile companys or conservative foundations is not in itself a condemning factor unless you can show that their intention is to mislead and misinform or they are speaking untruths.

The fact that they are funded by energy companies or automobile companys or conservative foundations is not in itself a condemning factor unless you can show that their intention is to mislead and misinform or they are speaking untruths.

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/o/orwell/george/o79n/
Part II, Chapter IX
The two aims of the Party are to conquer the whole surface of the earth and to extinguish once and for all the possibility of independent thought.