Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

Theyve both gone strongly nuclear.

miniTAX wrote:

parados wrote:

So, we should do something about retreating glaciers since it will affect water supplies?

You can't expect glaciers NOT to melt and to supply water. Either suck or blow but you can't have both. :wink:

You do know that there are seasons on earth, don't you?

Foxfyre wrote:

Theyve both gone strongly nuclear.

They've gone nuclear at the first oil shock, ages before this AGW scam. And now they use it not out of desire to "protect the climate" but to sell nuclear plants and to "establish a first global governance" (copyrights Chirac).
And don't say communists haven't taken strong measure to comply with the AGW rhetorics. They have taken 3 strong measures : tax, tax and tax.
I know it, I'm French

Okay

But I'm going to recaption it: "Omg, McCain is a DEMOCRAT!!!"

(Disqualifier: I can't pin this one all on the Democrats though since there are plenty of AGW religionists on the right side of the aisle too.)

And don't say communists haven't taken strong measure to comply with the AGW rhetorics. They have taken 3 strong measures : tax, tax and tax.
I know it, I'm French

So you are originally from behind the "iron curtain"? But didn't they have extremely low taxes there? :wink:

There are several issues McCain could use to win by pointing out how wrong the Democrats are, but unfortunately McCain can't use them.

Joke apart, the education system and the public sector here (which employs 1/4 of all French workers, the highest rate of all developped countries) is in the hands of a vast majority of leftists, some declared communists. So communism here is not just a "vue d'esprit".

.........from Tocqueville :

"Le goût des fonctions publiques et le désir de vivre de l'impôt n'est point chez nous une maladie particulière à un parti, c'est la grande et permanente infirmité de la nation elle-même".........

"The preference for public employment and the desire to live off taxation isn't limited, with us, to a particular party, it is the great and permanent infirmity of the nation itself."

My eldest son is named after Alexis de Tocqueville.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport#report

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Paleoclimatologist Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor of the Department of Earth Sciences at University of Ottawa, who has been involved with the International Atomic Energy Agency and co-authored the book Environmental Isotopes in Hydrogeology, which won the Choice Magazine "Outstanding Textbook" award in 1998, reversed his views on man-made climate change after further examining the evidence. "I used to agree with these dramatic warnings of climate disaster. I taught my students that most of the increase in temperature of the past century was due to human contribution of CO2. The association seemed so clear and simple. Increases of greenhouse gases were driving us towards a climate catastrophe," Clark said in a 2005 documentary Climate Catastrophe Cancelled: What You're Not Being Told About the Science of Climate Change. "However, a few years ago, I decided to look more closely at the science and it astonished me. In fact there is no evidence of humans being the cause. There is, however, overwhelming evidence of natural causes such as changes in the output of the sun. This has completely reversed my views on the Kyoto protocol," Clark explained. "Actually, many other leading climate researchers also have serious concerns about the science underlying the [Kyoto] Protocol," he added.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport#report

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Prominent scientist Professor Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, a leading world authority on sea levels and coastal erosion who headed the Department of Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics at Stockholm University, declared in 2007 "the rapid rise in sea levels predicted by computer models simply cannot happen." Morner called a September 23, 2007 AP article predicting dire sea level rise "propaganda." "The AP article must be regarded as an untenable horror scenario not based in observational facts," Morner wrote to EPW. "Sea level will not rise by 1 m in 100 years. This is not even possible. Storm surges are in no way intensified at a sea level rise. Sea level was not at all rising 'a third of a meter in the last century': only some 10 cm from 1850 to 1940," he wrote. Morner previously noted on August 6, 2007, "When we were coming out of the last ice age, huge ice sheets were melting rapidly and the sea level rose at an average of one meter per century. If the Greenland ice sheet stated to melt at the same rate - which is unlikely - sea level would rise by less than 100 mm - 4 inches per century." Morner, who was president of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution from 1999 to 2003, has published a new booklet entitled "The Greatest Lie Ever Told," to refute claims of catastrophic sea level rise.

THE DISSENTS OF THE SCIENTIFIC DISSENTERS

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http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport#report

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Prominent scientist Professor Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, a leading world authority on sea levels and coastal erosion who headed the Department of Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics at Stockholm University, declared in 2007 "the rapid rise in sea levels predicted by computer models simply cannot happen." Morner called a September 23, 2007 AP article predicting dire sea level rise "propaganda." "The AP article must be regarded as an untenable horror scenario not based in observational facts," Morner wrote to EPW. "Sea level will not rise by 1 m in 100 years. This is not even possible. Storm surges are in no way intensified at a sea level rise. Sea level was not at all rising 'a third of a meter in the last century': only some 10 cm from 1850 to 1940," he wrote. Morner previously noted on August 6, 2007, "When we were coming out of the last ice age, huge ice sheets were melting rapidly and the sea level rose at an average of one meter per century. If the Greenland ice sheet stated to melt at the same rate - which is unlikely - sea level would rise by less than 100 mm - 4 inches per century." Morner, who was president of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution from 1999 to 2003, has published a new booklet entitled "The Greatest Lie Ever Told," to refute claims of catastrophic sea level rise.

You know, I've wondered and maybe our resident geologists or equivalent experts might know.