Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

username wrote:

minitax, you asked for ONE measurement. How about 72,000? Your claim that acidification hasn't been measured is, yes, all wet.

username, your claim is just spinning from a spinning press release.

There is NO global measurements of pH or acidification of oceans, just estimates of CO2 uptake by the ocean, estimates which are made by "combining" other data taken on just 10 years.

What this uptake becomes in the ocean :physically transported to deeper layers, chemically combined and precipitated, biologically integrated like limestone cliffs made of shells... is anyone's guess so the pH change claim is just pseudo-science.

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Increases and decreases in global temperatures correlate well with increases and decreases in solar irradiance.

Increases and decreases in global temperatures DO NOT correlate well with increases and decreases in atmospheric CO2 density.

Increases and decreases in global temperatures DO NOT correlate well with increases and decreases in the oceanic carbon density of that carbon that comes from human caused atmospheric CO2.

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The globe has been warming since the end of the ice age... Those darned dinosaurs and their SUV's! Rolling Eyes

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RexRed wrote:

The globe has been warming since the end of the ice age... Those darned dinosaurs and their SUV's!

Maybe all that vegetation and stuff they ate made them really gassy or something. Wasn't it just last year that the religionists were decrying the enormous damage that flatulent cows were doing to the climate? Now magnify those cows to the size of dinosaurs and well, it's really mind boggling.

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Not to mention: Nose boggling!

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When I competed against the dinosaurs, they always won! Crying or Very sad

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6058358

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This lunacy is reaching the airlines now >

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.............the biofuel-powered engine was using a blend of conventional jet fuel and biofuel: 80/20 in favor of the regular stuff. In total, then, just 5% of the 49,000-lb (22,000 kg) fuel load consisted of the novelty: a special mix of coconut oil and oil from the Brazilian babassu plant..

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1717009,00.html

> ever as scientists prove conclusively that palm / coconut oil causes more than 400 years' jet fuel damage to the planet - you can't make up that stuff!

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Draining and clearing peatlands in Malaysia and Indonesia to grow palm oil emits so much CO2 that palm biodiesel from those fields would have to be burned for more than 420 years to counteract it.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120241324358751455.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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RexRed wrote:

The globe has been warming since the end of the ice age... Those darned dinosaurs and their SUV's!

Dinosaurs became extinct well before the end of the last ice age.
In fact, they lived in the Cretacious when atmospheric CO2 concentrations were 5 to 10x the current value. So maybe their SUVs were the culprit for such "unprecedented" CO2 after all.

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The real reason why dinosaurs became extinct was because they may have taken up cigarette smoking, according to one of Gary Larson's "Far Side" cartoons. So if they were smoking heavily, that could have caused alot more CO2?

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So we can rule out dinosaur farts as a major cause of CO2 pollution? Well, at least that eliminates something.

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miniTAX wrote:

RexRed wrote:
The globe has been warming since the end of the ice age... Those darned dinosaurs and their SUV's!

Dinosaurs became extinct well before the end of the last ice age.
In fact, they lived in the Cretacious when atmospheric CO2 concentrations were 5 to 10x the current value. So maybe their SUVs were the culprit for such "unprecedented" CO2 after all.

Just heard of a new study a couple days ago (I don't have a link) that says that global warming my have led to the extinction of the dinosaurs.

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Foxfyre wrote:

So we can rule out dinosaur farts as a major cause of CO2 pollution? Well, at least that eliminates something.

Blame it on flatulence. Smile

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RexRed wrote:

miniTAX wrote:
RexRed wrote:
The globe has been warming since the end of the ice age... Those darned dinosaurs and their SUV's!

Dinosaurs became extinct well before the end of the last ice age.
In fact, they lived in the Cretacious when atmospheric CO2 concentrations were 5 to 10x the current value. So maybe their SUVs were the culprit for such "unprecedented" CO2 after all.

Just heard of a new study a couple days ago (I don't have a link) that says that global warming my have led to the extinction of the dinosaurs.

That is funny. As a geologist, I have noticed the theories come and go on the extinction of dinosaurs. Personally, I don't think it requires anything real spectacular, after all, I understand that species go extinct all the time, even in our lifetimes there are examples. Somewhat older examples, but not nearly as old as dinosaurs, include the wooly mammoth and ancient forms of bison, horses, etc. in North America, which probably did not require anything more than natural cycles, probably climatic cycles. After all, virtually everything in nature is cyclical.

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okie wrote:

The real reason why dinosaurs became extinct was because they may have taken up cigarette smoking, according to one of Gary Larson's "Far Side" cartoons. So if they were smoking heavily, that could have caused alot more CO2?

No, tobacco is carbon neutral, renewable and sustainable. Even Al Gore's family grew it (that's before he found a much more juicy business in hot air trading) :wink:

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A video on global warming due to carbon emissions from the modern civilisation : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lgzz-L7GFg&e
Just a detail, the video was made ... 50 years ago.

Now even with a 5x richer world and 3x more population, there are still people claiming the world is heading for disaster. Crying or Very sad

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http://www.oism.org/pproject/Slides/Presentation/Slide5.png

US Surface Temperature Trends versus Solar Activity

http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/mlo.jpg

Trend Atmospheric CO2 ppm 1958 to 2007

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304898,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Feb09/0,4670,TVLookout,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262111,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,232164,00.html

Sorry to hit and run, be back later to possibly comment.

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I was listening to the radio when out making rounds this morning and it was reported that 2007 finished a full 1 degree Celsius cooler than the peak year of the industrial age and essentially wiped out most effects of global warming for the last 100 years. Those who don't see global warming as a serious hazard to life on Earth view this sudden drop with some serious eyebrow raising. One year does not a trend make, but the drop was so substantial it bears attention. It was also noted that the lessened solar activity preceding 2007 is the probable cause.

I think it was also mentioned that this does not rule out CO2 as a cause of global warming but it does suggest there are far more powerful influences at work.

Also with the rapidly increasing human population on our planet, warming is preferable to cooling as we need more arable land and longer growing seasons to feed everybody.

Has anybody read anything on this? I found it fascinating if I'm remembering it correctly. I don't expect any of the AGW religionists to report it so, if true, we'll probably have to dig for the information.

Question to Hamburger: Did your lake freeze over this winter?

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