parados wrote:ican711nm wrote:parados wrote:ican711nm wrote:
Global warming increases the temperature of seawater, so the CO2 in seawater escapes faster when the sea water is warmed by global warming.
So then your claim that global warming would decrease CO2 is nothing but BS.. It took you a while to realize it but now it seems even you know you were making claims that violate science.
I never said that global warming would decrease CO2.
I said that precipitation (e.g., rain) in a particular region of the atmosphere, decreases the amount of CO2 in that region of the atmosphere.
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ican711nm wrote:
I conclude that the higher the humidity in a given region of the atmosphere the lower is the density of O2 molecules in that region. So I further conclude the same is true for the density of CO2 (or any of the other heavier molecules like N2) in such a region.
When the earth warms, more H2O is evaporated from surface water into various regions of the atmosphere, thereby decreasing the density of CO2 and O2 in those regions. Furthermore, the greater the humidity in a given region, the greater is the likelihood of precipitation of that H2O, and the CO2 mixed with it, back to the surface. When the density of CO2 in those regions is reduced, the effect of CO2 in those regions on the average temperature of the earth, is reduced.
So, let me get this straight MORE CO2 will be released when it is warmer but there will be LESS CO2 because of the water vapor in the air? Where did all those CO2 molecules go?
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ican711nm wrote:parados wrote:
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If rain takes so much CO2 out of the atmosphere then as we have increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere would there not be more taken out in present rains?
Yes! And even more in subsequent rains.
parados wrote:So, let me get this straight MORE CO2 will be released when it is warmer but there will be LESS CO2 because of the water vapor in the air? Where did all those CO2 molecules go?
You still haven't gotten this straight, because you continue to discuss the individual parts of the whole cycle as if they were independent!
I'll try one more time to communicate with you on this topic.
First, my definition of
surface water:
surface water = ocean water (e.g., sea water) and non-ocean water (e.g., lake water) on the surface of the earth.
It is a fact that the CO2 ppm (i.e., parts per million) in
surface water is
not uniform over the surface of the earth. Generally the CO2 ppm in ocean water is greater than the CO2 ppm in non-ocean water. Also, the CO2 ppm is not uniform throughout the earth's oceans. Also, the CO2 ppm is not uniform throughout the earth's non-ocean water.
When water evaporates from
surface water it forms a water vapor mix of H2O, CO2, and other molecules that were originally contained in the
surface water. The warmer is a region of
surface water, the greater the rate of that evaporation, and therefore the greater is the rate of CO2 ppm increase in the atmosphere over that region of the surface.
Atmospheric winds subsequently spread these vapor mixtures throughout the many regions of the atmosphere. When sufficient relatively cold air blows through a region, the water vapor in that region condenses into clouds and/or rain. When water vapor condenses into rain, H2O and CO2 molecules mixed in that vapor enters
surface water.
So on the one hand, earth warming causes more CO2 to be in the atmosphere. On the other hand, earth warming causes more CO2 to be precipitated out of the atmosphere by rains, because there is more CO2 in the atmosphere. Net, if when the earth warms, there is more CO2 in the atmosphere and less CO2 in
surface water than when the earth cools.
If no additional CO2 were to be inserted into the atmosphere, almost all of it currently in the atmosphere would eventually mix with water vapor and precipitate into
surface water. Furthermore, I think it self-evident that by comparison, the amount of CO2 in
surface water caused by human activities over the last
hundred years is trivial to that caused by non-human activities over the last
million years.
