Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

By the way, how come the Antarctic is growing ice?

Wassamadda folks-

Can't you face up to the fact that it is people who pollute.

And people who not only expect to go on polluting at a 3% growth rate but are bringing new polluters into the world at an alarming rate and educating and encouraging them to do the same and to expect the same.

Generating and trading contradictory statistics is merely a way of pretending to be serious whilst not being. I should think that stuff is a source of pollution in its own right. Part of the problem. An evasive distraction.

There is something quaintly disgusting about rich Americans, the world's No 1 polluters by a wide margin, preaching about this subject to the billions who live a simple life and when one remembers that they do this preaching on land they took by violence off native aboriginals who left no carbon footprint for many generations it is sick.

And the chance of these rich Americans voting for anyone who is going to do something serious about GW is a big fat zero.

If I was you I would just shut up about it and "go shopping". You're pissing into a hurricane.

Sophistry.

Reassure yourself Cyclo.

I'll bet your personal carbon footprint is deeper than that of the whole Sioux nation in its whole existence.

You're pissing into a hurricane.

In past millennia, volcanoes, earthquakes, and fluctuations in the sun's radiation have sometimes caused earth cooling, and sometimes caused earth warming. With all these fluctuations, increases and decreases in CO2 ppm in the atmosphere, sometimes occurred when the earth cooled and sometimes occurred when the earth warmed. Consequently, historically there is no real correlation between the occurrence of CO2 ppm changes in the atmosphere and changes in the earth's average temperature.

Yes, CO2 ppm increases in the atmosphere over the last 100 years do coincide with increases in the earth's average temperature. But the increase in the earth's average temperature is far more likely caused by the occurrence of volcanoes, earthquakes, and increases in the sun's radiations to the earth over the same period, than it is caused by increases in human produced CO2.

Also coincidentally, the number of democracies around the earth has increased dramatically over the last 100 years. Why not blame that--or any other increase over the same 100 years--for causing earth warming over the same period?

Found the cause!

Cycloptichorn

okie wrote:

By the way, how come the Antarctic is growing ice?

Let's see.. you have a continent that probably averages temperatures of -40c and then you warm it up by .78 degrees.

Hmm.. I wonder why the ice isn't melting? Oh. that's right. Ice melts at 0c.



I just checked and it seems Antarctica averages -30c with highs of a balmy -22c in the Summer. http://www.antarcticconnection.com/antarctic/weather/climate.shtml
The coastal areas are warmer. The more open ocean there is the more snow we can expect it looks like. It seems you would expect there to be increased ice in the middle of the continent. More snow but still below freezing temperatures.

Wassamadda folks-

Can't you face up to the fact that it is people who pollute.

And people who not only expect to go on polluting at a 3% growth rate but are bringing new polluters into the world at an alarming rate and educating and encouraging them to do the same and to expect the same.

Generating and trading contradictory statistics is merely a way of pretending to be serious whilst not being. I should think that stuff is a source of pollution in its own right. Part of the problem. An evasive distraction.

There is something quaintly disgusting about rich Americans, the world's No 1 polluters by a wide margin, preaching about this subject to the billions who live a simple life and when one remembers that they do this preaching on land they took by violence off native aboriginals who left no carbon footprint for many generations it is sick.

And the chance of these rich Americans voting for anyone who is going to do something serious about GW is a big fat zero.

If I was you I would just shut up about it and "go shopping". You're pissing into a hurricane.

Sophistry.

Reassure yourself Cyclo.

I'll bet your personal carbon footprint is deeper than that of the whole Sioux nation in its whole existence.

It's supposed to snow here tomorrow.

Meteorites, earthquakes, and vocanoes also pollute. Some of us recognize they pollute worse than 6 billion plus people have all together polluted.

"I'd take a little GW over this Chicago winter any day!"

in case you didn't realize it the Sioux nation still exists, all 7 tribes. I would bet that one of their casinos far exceeds Cyclo when it comes to the carbon footprint.

I've already related the facts of the "pissing on a volcano" story to you. Go to the corner and do not talk until lunch break.

It's supposed to snow here tomorrow.

I've already related the facts of the "pissing on a volcano" story to you. Go to the corner and do not talk until lunch break.


Ditto.

parados wrote:

okie wrote:

By the way, how come the Antarctic is growing ice?

Let's see.. you have a continent that probably averages temperatures of -40c and then you warm it up by .78 degrees.

Hmm.. I wonder why the ice isn't melting? Oh. that's right. Ice melts at 0c.



I just checked and it seems Antarctica averages -30c with highs of a balmy -22c in the Summer. http://www.antarcticconnection.com/antarctic/weather/climate.shtml
The coastal areas are warmer. The more open ocean there is the more snow we can expect it looks like. It seems you would expect there to be increased ice in the middle of the continent. More snow but still below freezing temperatures.

Excellent! Now explain why over the last ten years the arctic ice is on average decreasing, while the antarctic ice is on average increasing.