Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

"An increasing body of observations gives
a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system."...

The next time when I meet one of those little green men again, I'll ask one about what they think and do re their climate situation.

I'll promise to report about this talk immediately here.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

The next time when I meet one of those little green men again, I'll ask one about what they think and do re their climate situation. I'll promise to report about this talk immediately here.

Thanks Walter. Flying Air Berlin? Ican believes that martian and terrestial warming has the same cause. Too many SUVs

Ican must be a bot! It's just too obvious! Probably the programmer just picks a random thread for the bot to stay on, then enters a ridiculous thesis (like, "talk to people about how Earth and Martian global warming are the same") which has a slight connection to the thread topic, and then probably drops in once in a while to laugh his ass off at how long real people maintain a discussion this with him............

Walter Hinteler wrote:

"An increasing body of observations gives
a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system."...

Earth is a globe that has been warming at an accelerating rate since the last ice age.

Mars is a globe that has been warming at an accelerating rate for a shorter time.

The mean distance of Earth from the sun is 93 million miles.

The mean distance of Mars from the sun is 141 million miles.

What's causing their warming?

Walter Hinteler wrote:

"An increasing body of observations gives
a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system."...

Earth is a globe that has been warming at an accelerating rate since the last ice age.

Mars is a globe that has been warming at an accelerating rate for a shorter time.

The mean distance of Earth from the sun is 93 million miles.

The mean distance of Mars from the sun is 141 million miles.

What's causing their warming?

Mars has an eliptical orbit and a tilted access so it has seasons. Melting polar ice caps are a result of seasons.

Mars is warming? Says who?

New Scientist Breaking News - Mars could be undergoing major global warming
03 October 2005. JOB OF THE WEEK. The World's No.1 Science & Technology News Service. Mars could be undergoing major global warming. 10:05 07 December 2001. From New Scientist Print Edition. ... Mars is undergoing global warming that could profoundly change the planet's climate in a few thousand ... resolution images taken by NASA's Mars Global Surveyor show that the permanent ...
www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1660

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Mars is undergoing global warming that could profoundly change the planet's climate in a few thousand years, new data suggests.

High-resolution images taken by NASA's Mars Global Surveyor show that the permanent south polar "ice" cap shrank significantly between two successive Martian summers - a period roughly corresponding to two Earth years. If the trend continues at the same rate and the polar cap is entirely frozen carbon dioxide, "the whole cap would be evaporated in a few thousand years," Mike Caplinger of Malin Space Science Systems told New Scientist.

The Speculist: Getting Warmer
Live to see it. November 11, 2004. Getting Warmer. Things are heating up on Mars...literally. The planet is experiencing its own version of global warming. The dry-ice polar caps are diminishing. ... So, it appears that Mars is experiencing global warming, too. Hmmm...clearly ...
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November 11, 2004
Getting Warmer
Things are heating up on Mars...literally. The planet is experiencing its own version of global warming. The dry-ice polar caps are diminishing. Paul Hsieh speculates that this must be on account of our failure to sign Kyoto. Wow, when somebody close to me told me that I could vote for Bush if I wanted to, but I would have to accept the fact that everything that happens from now on is my fault...well, I just didn't grasp the cosmic implications.

On the other hand, I can't help but wonder — if two planets so close to each other are both experiencing a rise in surface temperature, isn't it just possible that it might have to do with that nearby star they both orbit? I'm just asking is all. I mean, what if...

What if.

And I'm just asking. But what if global warming is real, but it isn't our fault and there is nothing we can do about it? (With current technology.)

Just asking.

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Whoops. Maybe it's NOT our fault? from Milblog
Let's see. Two planets, circling the same primary, and they both show signs of warming at the same time... That looks suspicious to me.The Speculist: Getting Warmer Things are heating up on Mars...literally. The planet is experiencing its own version... [Read More]

Tracked on November 11, 2004 09:04 AM

Heating Up on Mars, Too from American Digest
Seems that global warming isn't confined to the Earth these days, but that greenhouse emissions evidently extend across the void to Mars. This from an interesting observation at The Speculist: Getting Warmer . Things are heating up on Mars...literally... [Read More]

Tracked on November 11, 2004 10:35 AM

SPACE.com -- Mars Emerging from Ice Age, Data Suggest
Scientists have suspected in recent year that Mars is undergoing some sort of global warming. New date points to the possibility it is emerging from an ice age. ... deposits covering older, cratered surfaces near Mars' south pole dominate this image taken ...
www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html
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Mars Emerging from Ice Age, Data Suggest
By SPACE.com

posted: 03:00 pm ET
08 December 2003



Scientists have suspected in recent years that Mars might be undergoing some sort of global warming. New data points to the possibility it is emerging from an ice age.

NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter has been surveying the planet for nearly a full Martian year now, and it has spotted seasonal changes like the advance and retreat of polar ice. It's also gathering data of a possible longer trend.

There appears to be too much frozen water at low-latitude regions -- away from the frigid poles -- given the current climate of Mars. The situation is not in equilibrium, said William Feldman of the Los Alamos National Laboratory.

"One explanation could be that Mars is just coming out of an ice age," Feldman said. "In some low-latitude areas, the ice has already dissipated. In others, that process is slower and hasn't reached an equilibrium yet. Those areas are like the patches of snow you sometimes see persisting in protected spots long after the last snowfall of the winter."

Space Research That's Cool - Global Warming on Mars?
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Global Warming on Mars?

A study of the ice caps on Mars may show that the red planet is experiencing a warming trend.

After decades of thinking that the ice caps on Mars were mostly carbon dioxide (dry ice), planetary geologists are starting to think that those caps may be mostly fresh water ice instead.

Caltech planetary scientists have been keeping a close eye on the dozens of deep, wide pits in the southern martian ice caps. These pits have been growing larger every year, but they never get any deeper.

The scientists believe this means that there is a layer of dry ice that is evaporating off of a thicker layer of water ice. The yearly increases in evaporation may be caused by a global warming trend happening on Mars.

If both Mars and Earth are experiencing global warming, then perhaps there is a larger phenomenon going on in the Solar System that is causing their global climates to change.

Global warming on Mars lacks pollution explanation?
Environment and Human Population. Global warming on Mars lacks pollution explanation? Posted by: DWA. 12/06/2001, 23:41:31. (About author) Mail author. Edit ... Related link: Mars Warming Up. Post Reply | Email Friend | Alert ...
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Comment: If true, it's going to be challenging to stick this one on human habitation/industrial pollution explanations, but I suppose it can be done.
http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSSpace0112/06_mars-ap.html

Thursday, December 6, 2001

Mars climate may be changing

Study suggests permanent carbon dioxide ice caps are eroding

By PAUL RECER-- Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vast fields of carbon dioxide ice are eroding from the poles of Mars, suggesting that the climate of the Red Planet is warming and the atmosphere is becoming slightly more dense. Experts say that over time such changes could allow water to return to the Martian surface and turn the frigid planet into a "shirt-sleeve environment."

WorldNetDaily: Global warming on Mars – without SUVs!
THE FINAL FRONTIER. Global warming on Mars – without SUVs! Planet experiencing increased temperatures despite lack of humankind. Posted: December 10, 2003. 1:00 a.m. Eastern. © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com ... to pollutants of human habitation, Mars appears to be undergoing global warming, with new data suggesting the planet ...
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Global warming on Mars – without SUVs!
Planet experiencing increased temperatures despite lack of humankind

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Though not subject to pollutants of human habitation, Mars appears to be undergoing global warming, with new data suggesting the planet is possibly emerging from an ice age.

According to a report in Space.com, NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter has spotted seasonal changes, such as the advance and retreat of polar ice, but it also is gathering information pointing to long-term trends.


Is NASA rover to blame for global warming on Mars?


William Feldman of the Los Alamos National Laboratory tells the site the current climate conditions, including too much frozen water at low-latitude regions, suggests something is out of equilibrium on Mars.

"One explanation could be that Mars is just coming out of an ice age," Feldman told Space.com. "In some low-latitude areas, the ice has already dissipated. In others, that process is slower and hasn't reached an equilibrium yet. Those areas are like the patches of snow you sometimes see persisting in protected spots long after the last snowfall of the winter."

Miserable news today

http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1595328,00.html

Rapid climate change in the ocean west of the Antarctic Peninsula during the second half of the 20th century

Michael P. Meredith

British Antarctic Survey, Cambridge, UK

John C. King

British Antarctic Survey, Cambridge, UK

Abstract

The climate of the Western Antarctic Peninsula (WAP) is the most rapidly changing in the Southern Hemisphere, with a rise in atmospheric temperature of nearly 3°C since 1951 and associated cryospheric impacts. We demonstrate here, for the first time, that the adjacent ocean showed profound coincident changes, with surface summer temperatures rising more than 1°C and a strong upper-layer salinification. Initially driven by atmospheric warming and reduced rates of sea ice production, these changes constitute positive feedbacks that will contribute significantly to the continued climate change. Marine species in this region have extreme sensitivities to their environment, with population and species removal predicted in response to very small increases in ocean temperature. The WAP region is an important breeding and nursery ground for Antarctic krill, a key species in the Southern Ocean foodweb with a known dependence on the physical environment. The changes observed thus have significant ecological implications.


Received 11 July 2005; accepted 6 September 2005; published 7 October 2005.

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The BAS findings are alarming. But what can we do? Global warming is in the pipeline if we ceased all economic activity completely. There is only one thing we can do in the short run and that is to break our addiction and reliance on fossil fuels. And at the cutting edge of that is to change our attitudes towards cars, away from fashion and towards functionality. Of course this will never happen if its left to the market.
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