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Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2005 02:16 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
well thank you for the contribution ican

i leave it to our readers to decide whether its better to improve car fuel economy or shift the earth's orbit.
Laughing

Your short term solution was improving car fuel economy.

My short term solution was putting huge tents into stationary orbits.

Both your short term solution and mine, even if they were to be achievable, will produce a negligible reduction in Earth warming.

My shorter term solution of waiting a thousand years for the onset of another earth ice-age, is achievable and will produce a major reduction in Earth warming.

Should we wish to delay the onset of another ice-age, I recomend increasing the CO2 in our atmosphere. That might help postpone that onset a year or two.

Of course, some genuis might sooner than 1000 years from now figure out how to regulate the temperature of the sun so as to eliminate both ice-ages and warm-ages on Earth. But I wouldn't bet on that happening. Smile

In other words, those who buy the popular myth that reducing the CO2 in Earth's atmosphere will stop Earth warming are gullible as hell.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2005 04:42 pm
ican711nm wrote:
Your short term solution was improving car fuel economy. My short term solution was putting huge tents into stationary orbits...My shorter term solution of waiting a thousand years for the onset of another earth ice-age, is achievable and will produce a major reduction in Earth warming...


you're not from earth really are you ican?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 11:06 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
Your short term solution was improving car fuel economy.
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My shorter term solution of waiting a thousand years for the onset of another earth ice-age, is achievable and will produce a major reduction in Earth warming...


you're not from earth really are you ican?


In other words, those who buy the popular myth that reducing the CO2 in Earth's atmosphere will stop Earth warming are gullible as hell.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 12:58 pm
Ican711nm:

Obviuosly, you have never been in a greenhouse where glass can capture the sun's rays and heat up the greenhouse. The same thing happens when a car's windows are locked with a child inside in the middle of summer in mid-day sun. That child could be dead.

We should thank Global Warmer Bush for the four hurricanes in '04 and Katrina, Rita and Wilma in '05.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 01:02 pm
Well, Talk, who then do we blame for the very active and savage hurricane seasons of the 1930's, the last peak hurrican season experienced by the U.S.?
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talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 01:56 pm
The ferocity of the hurricanes have increased due to Global Warming. There are more of fierce ones. There is an all round warming as evidenced in the glacier meltings which were not present in the 30's. There was the phenomenon of the dust bowl in the 30's which led many Oklahomans to California. The dryness, free of grass and leaves, led to the heated land and helped generate hurricanes.
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 02:01 pm
Talk, let me ask you a question I asked over in another thread that you may not have seen yet.

Since you are so concerned with global warming, what are you personally doing about it? Have you stopped driving a car and now either walk to bicycle everywhere you go? Do you use natural gas to heat your home? Have you foregone using electricity since you cannot be certain all of it is generated without using fossil fuels?

Just how far are you willing to go to support your global warming fears? All the above seems such a small price to pay to save our planet. And after all, every little bit would help, would it not?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 02:01 pm
No, the ferocity of the hurricans have not increased. There were probably more Cat 5 hurricans in that period in the 1930's than were experience before or since, but then people have occupied this part of the world for a fairly short time. Google up the history of hurricanes in the last 100 years, and you'll see Cat 3, 4, and 5 storms coming year after year, some hitting land, some missing. There are cycles in which there are more hurricanes and we are obviously in one of those. But there is no evidence that global warming has anything to do with it--it' just time for an active cycle.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 02:16 pm
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/history.shtml

From this link there are only two notable hurricanes in 1935 and 1938.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 02:22 pm
Well, I googled, too, and I suppose, talk is very correct on this.

Most scientists really say that hurricanes come in cycles - of about 25, that we just in one and that they are growing in force most certainly to global warming.
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John Drury
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 02:36 pm
Give me a break guys if Global warming existed don't you think we would see some hard evidence?


I don't know ...like an unusual amount of incredibly strong hurricanes in the Western Hemisphere
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 02:40 pm
Of course we don't have global warming. And the earth is flad.
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Organicmechanic
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 03:22 pm
Webpage Title

From the proverbial horses mouth.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 04:21 pm
talk72000 wrote:
Ican711nm:

Obviuosly, you have never been in a greenhouse where glass can capture the sun's rays and heat up the greenhouse. The same thing happens when a car's windows are locked with a child inside in the middle of summer in mid-day sun. That child could be dead.


I know that enclosed non-porous glass structures can be heated up significantly by the sun's radiation. The earth is not enclosed in a non-porous glass structure. It is enclosed only by a porous atmosphere of mixed gases.

I also know that the earth's atmosphere reflects into space some of the sun's radiation before it reaches the earth.

I also know that the geological record shows that the earth has heated and cooled over multi-thousand-year cycles (i.e., multi-ice-ages) without any help from George Bush or any other human.

Oh yes! I also know that the Kyoto treaty was rejected by both the Clinton and Bush administrations.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2005 04:39 pm
If somebody would just turn that damn sun off things would stop heating up. I guess global freezing isn't as attractive, especially in the dark.
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2005 05:46 am
Talk72000, I am still interested and waiting to hear what you are personally sacrificing in the battle against global warming. Really, I want to know. Are you part of the problem or trying to be part of the solution? Since nearly every thread (even on the religious boards) you post in you find a way to refer to Bush as that global warmer, tell us what you are giving up to combat global warming. Your car? Your electricity? Anything at all?

Maybe you are just as much a global warmer as Bush. So I think you will now become Global Warmer Talk72000 from now on.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2005 10:29 am
I agree with the Kyoto Agreement. I don't drive a SUV. What the government does is far more important than what a single person could do. You are trying the old ad homenim attack where instead of discussing issues you go after a person which is a typical Nazi Karl Roverer method of attack. So what are you doing to to fight Global Warming ? Are you part of the problem or providing a solution?
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2005 11:30 am
talk72000 wrote:
I agree with the Kyoto Agreement. I don't drive a SUV. What the government does is far more important than what a single person could do. You are trying the old ad homenim attack where instead of discussing issues you go after a person which is a typical Nazi Karl Roverer method of attack. So what are you doing to to fight Global Warming ? Are you part of the problem or providing a solution?


I'm not concerned about global warming. So why should I do anything? You and your ilk are the ones so concerned. And when you get called on your lack of doing anything, you resort to name calling? You are certainly a fine upstanding citizen.

So I guess, what you are saying, is that you are not doing anything to combat global warming other than complain that government is not doing anything. I just wanted to be sure I understood where you are coming from. Now I do. Like so many others who see a problem, you complain about what the government is not doing, but you don't want to change your lifestyle in order to help solve it. No, you want others to change their lifestyle or have the government force them to do it. You're a real crusader there, Talk. Maybe that explains your name. All talk, not action.

See ya later, Global Warming Talk72000
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2005 12:57 pm
The Dalai Lama told me that the way to change the world, is to change yourself.

So I don't drive a car anymore, I ride my bike or take the bus. I grow a small garden and try to conserve water as well.

Amazing how many conservatives are extremely concerned with saving unborn children, but not with fixing the environment so those children have a place to live... or their children's children...

Cycloptichorn
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2005 02:18 pm
Now see Cy, this is what I am talking about. You have concerns about global warming and what not. You, like Global Warmer Talk72000, have every right to speak out and push for change. You, unlike Global Warmer Talk72000, also have the courage to do your little part, which impresses me and puts a bit of a kick behind your words.

I just get a bit perturbed when a person does not have the courage of their convictions to live out their words while accusing a president, er, sorry, this president, of being solely responsible for global warming and the hurricanes he believes it has spawned.

Ok, now that I have gotten that rant off my back, I will go cook dinner for my kids and I. All that ranting has me hungry.

Have a good evening Cy.
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