Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

Do you think it is "mostly pure fiction" Thomas or more of it is based on actual science?

Documentaries are always from the perspective of the film maker. Gore may hype the science but the science is there.

To give more credit to the film industry by Americans and others says more about the people who are influenced by such; they're still living in fictionland.

As researchers scramble to find answers to the syndrome they have decided to call "colony collapse disorder," growers are becoming openly nervous about the capability of the commercial bee industry to meet the growing demand for bees to pollinate dozens of crops, from almonds to avocados to kiwis.

Along with recent stresses on the bees themselves, as well as on an industry increasingly under consolidation, some fear this disorder may force a breaking point for even large beekeepers.

A Cornell University study has estimated that honeybees annually pollinate more than $14 billion worth of seeds and crops in the United States, mostly fruits, vegetables and nuts. "Every third bite we consume in our diet is dependent on a honeybee to pollinate that food," said Zac Browning, vice president of the American Beekeeping Federation.

In 1975,"actual science" was warning everyone that would listen that the earth was cooling,and that we had MAYBE 10 years left...Science section of Newsweek Magazine,April 28, 1975 titled, "The Cooling World"

These were "real scientists" warning us of this.

No, these were magazine writers hyping up a story. I've seen articles from that time that projected a global cooling trend on the timescale of 10,000 years. But alarmistic warnings about global cooling came from mass market magazine articles, not from scientific publications.

Is a mansion of 20 rooms and eight bathrooms thaught to be an average American houshold home?

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Is a mansion of 20 rooms and eight bathrooms thaught to be an average American houshold home?

Walter,
It's less about average American homes and more about Gore's way of life and the way he increases his power consumption. His or the way of life of the movie-pop-rock-rap-stars he is enrolling in his fight for Gaia is an insult to Earth balance added to injury to biodiversity.
My BS alarm bell is ringing, too !

Steve 41oo wrote:

I'll refrain from shooting any Hollywood star.

It won't be necessary. Best science fiction film award winning star Al Gore is shooting himself on the foot with his environmental "mission".
Carbon emission is growing unabated (forget to try to demand the Chinese or Indians to limit theirs). Temperatures stubbornly refuse to rise above the 1998 levels. Antarctica is cooling since the 1980s. The Greenland's ice, who was diminishing until 2005 is recovering spectacularly in 2006. The greenies' poster child Kilimajaro snow cover has never been as large for 15 years thanks to exceptional snowfall this year. Even the IPCC has downwardly revised its sea rise prediction and widened its uncertainty scales. The carbon stocks exchange, the core tool of Brussel aimed at conforming to Kyoto has cataclysmicly crashed in a complete Soviet-era media silence: the price of 1 ton of CO2 has fallen from 30 euros (35$) 8 months ago to 85 cents (1$) last week.

Al Gore must be desperate NOT to see the catastrophies predicted in his lifetime battle for the Earth. An Oscar is a meager compensation.

miniTAX wrote:

Steve 41oo wrote:

I'll refrain from shooting any Hollywood star.

It won't be necessary. Best science fiction film award winning star Al Gore is shooting himself on the foot with his environmental "mission".
Carbon emission is growing unabated (forget to try to demand the Chinese or Indians to limit theirs). Temperatures stubbornly refuse to rise above the 1998 levels. Antarctica is cooling since the 1980s. The Greenland's ice, who was diminishing until 2005 is recovering spectacularly in 2006. The greenies' poster child Kilimajaro snow cover has never been as large for 15 years thanks to exceptional snowfall this year. Even the IPCC has downwardly revised its sea rise prediction and widened its uncertainty scales. The carbon stocks exchange, the core tool of Brussel aimed at conforming to Kyoto has cataclysmicly crashed in a complete Soviet-era media silence: the price of 1 ton of CO2 has fallen from 30 euros (35$) 8 months ago to 85 cents (1$) last week.

Al Gore must be desperate NOT to see the catastrophies predicted in his lifetime battle for the Earth. An Oscar is a meager compensation.

So its global cooling we have to worry about? Damn I prefer being warm.

parados wrote:

Do you think it is "mostly pure fiction" Thomas or more of it is based on actual science?

Documentaries are always from the perspective of the film maker. Gore may hype the science but the science is there.

In 1975,"actual science" was warning everyone that would listen that the earth was cooling,and that we had MAYBE 10 years left...Science section of Newsweek Magazine,April 28, 1975 titled, "The Cooling World"

These were "real scientists" warning us of this.

Now,those same "real scientists" and that very same "actual science" is warning us about global warming.

Tell me,exactly which "actual science" is correct?

Steve 41oo wrote:

miniTAX wrote:

Steve 41oo wrote:

I'll refrain from shooting any Hollywood star.

It won't be necessary. Best science fiction film award winning star Al Gore is shooting himself on the foot with his environmental "mission".
Carbon emission is growing unabated (forget to try to demand the Chinese or Indians to limit theirs). Temperatures stubbornly refuse to rise above the 1998 levels. Antarctica is cooling since the 1980s. The Greenland's ice, who was diminishing until 2005 is recovering spectacularly in 2006. The greenies' poster child Kilimajaro snow cover has never been as large for 15 years thanks to exceptional snowfall this year. Even the IPCC has downwardly revised its sea rise prediction and widened its uncertainty scales. The carbon stocks exchange, the core tool of Brussel aimed at conforming to Kyoto has cataclysmicly crashed in a complete Soviet-era media silence: the price of 1 ton of CO2 has fallen from 30 euros (35$) 8 months ago to 85 cents (1$) last week.

Al Gore must be desperate NOT to see the catastrophies predicted in his lifetime battle for the Earth. An Oscar is a meager compensation.

So its global cooling we have to worry about? Damn I prefer being warm.

Its all BS anyways. The earth goes through warming and cooling cycles. If that weren't true then over half of North America and the EU would still be under ice.

Baldimo wrote:

Steve 41oo wrote:

miniTAX wrote:

Steve 41oo wrote:

I'll refrain from shooting any Hollywood star.

It won't be necessary. Best science fiction film award winning star Al Gore is shooting himself on the foot with his environmental "mission".
Carbon emission is growing unabated (forget to try to demand the Chinese or Indians to limit theirs). Temperatures stubbornly refuse to rise above the 1998 levels. Antarctica is cooling since the 1980s. The Greenland's ice, who was diminishing until 2005 is recovering spectacularly in 2006. The greenies' poster child Kilimajaro snow cover has never been as large for 15 years thanks to exceptional snowfall this year. Even the IPCC has downwardly revised its sea rise prediction and widened its uncertainty scales. The carbon stocks exchange, the core tool of Brussel aimed at conforming to Kyoto has cataclysmicly crashed in a complete Soviet-era media silence: the price of 1 ton of CO2 has fallen from 30 euros (35$) 8 months ago to 85 cents (1$) last week.

Al Gore must be desperate NOT to see the catastrophies predicted in his lifetime battle for the Earth. An Oscar is a meager compensation.

So its global cooling we have to worry about? Damn I prefer being warm.

Its all BS anyways. The earth goes through warming and cooling cycles. If that weren't true then over half of North America and the EU would still be under ice.

You seem to know a great deal about this. Have you presented your findings to the IPCC?

2006

High 22619 kWh Aug - Sept
Low 12541 kWh Jan - Feb
Average: 18,414 kWh per month

2005

High 20532 Sept - October
Low 12955 Feb - March
Average: 16,200 kWh per month

My BS meter is ringing pretty loud on that story too.

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2006

High 22619 kWh Aug - Sept
Low 12541 kWh Jan - Feb
Average: 18,414 kWh per month

2005

High 20532 Sept - October
Low 12955 Feb - March
Average: 16,200 kWh per month

Why was the high month in Sept in 2005?
Anyone want to bet that Gore and his family weren't there in August-Sept of 2005? A quick google search shows Gore was in New Orleans aiding victims of Katrina and then on the west coast for speaking engagements in early Sept. Why don't you guys complain that Gore wasted energy by paying to fly a bunch of Katrina victims to Tennessee.

But then of course the story doesn't compare average temperatures from year to year either. Something my electric company does on its bills which makes it easy to make the comparison. Care to place a bet that the summer months in 2005 were significantly hotter than in 2006?

The real question is how did the newspaper get personal information from the electric company. What was their source and can that source be trusted? In my neck of the woods if such information ended up in the paper the Attorney General's office would be investigating the criminal act by someone at the power company.

Yeah, my BS meter is ringing really loud on this story.

Why was the high month in Sept in 2005?
Anyone want to bet that Gore and his family weren't there in August-Sept of 2005? A quick google search shows Gore was in New Orleans aiding victims of Katrina and then on the west coast for speaking engagements in early Sept. Why don't you guys complain that Gore wasted energy by paying to fly a bunch of Katrina victims to Tennessee.

But then of course the story doesn't compare average temperatures from year to year either. Something my electric company does on its bills which makes it easy to make the comparison. Care to place a bet that the summer months in 2005 were significantly hotter than in 2006?