Cycloptichorn wrote: Who said we would do such a thing?
I get the picture. Now, without appealing to extremes, how will policies designed to slow climate change or global warming kill people or destroy our economy?
You see, none of what you posted has anything to do with policies about what we are going to do in the future. Want power plants that pollute less? Build 'em! Want cars which pollute less? Build new ones, phase the old ones out! Want more efficient farming equipment? Build it! Want an energy economy which doesn't require pollution? Start working on it! Encourage it!
You don't have to shut everything down immediately to begin to work on the problem. You are appealing to extremes, taking positions which would never possibly be taken in real life b/c we just aren't going to shut off the power and water and ground every airplane out there. What more, I don't think that anyone is calling for that stuff; just that we work to make the future better than the past has been.
We get China and India on board by producing technologies which produce power cleanly, and then make a fortune selling it to them. Use the free market in our favor.
Cycloptichorn
As you say, "You see, none of what you posted has anything to do with policies about what we are going to do."
That is the point, cyclops, What you are doing is not curtailing CO2. It is nothing more than a bandaid.
I totally agree, improve technology within the limits of competition, free enterprise, and the natural progression of technologicial advancement along with reasonable regulations that are not draconian. I have no arguments with you on that. The whole point of my argument is that there are currently no good technologies on sufficient scale to reverse CO2 production to the extent needed to fit the alarmists warnings of doom in a decade or so. Actually, according to what some said a decade or two ago, we would all be dead by now if things continued as they have, so the sky is falling crowd has already been wrong how many times now?
To actually impact CO2 in a way to ward off the rise in CO2, it would require the shutting down of all of those things I mentioned, plus more, whether you are proposing it or not.
What is funny is Hillary is saying now she wants to take the profits of energy companies to give to government to develop alternative energy, as she says she does not wish to fix the problem with a "bandaid." Where have we heard that before? Why don't she go all the way, like Hugo Chavez, and confiscate the whole thing, and really fix the problem? Wait a few years and watch Hugo run Venezuela absolutely into the ground, and if the Democrats have their way, they will do the same thing here. Yes, take the money from the producers and the problem solvers and give it to their useless beloved government. Sad day indeed.