Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

any tips on how to open a powerpoint file, when my system doesn't recognize it?

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Well, your comments are puzzling to say the least. I don't know what your problem is today?

I liked the document and thought it had lots of useful, pertinent, and valid information. Maybe somebody else will discover its value as well. Have a good day.

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username wrote:

any tips on how to open a powerpoint file, when my system doesn't recognize it?

If you don't have Powerpoint installed, your system won't recognize the file.

You can download a free Powerpoint Viewer ..... HERE.

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A Global Warming poem by Mark Steyn:

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Cycloptichorn

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username wrote:

any tips on how to open a powerpoint file, when my system doesn't recognize it?

Read it as pdf-data

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Ewww. It sounds like Walter really got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

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I'd thought, it was helpfull to give the link as pdf-data when you don't have powerpoint.

Didn't want to offend someone. Sorry.

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

I'd thought, it was helpfull to give the link as pdf-data when you don't have powerpoint.

Didn't want to offend someone. Sorry.

I was reacting to your responses to Okie, not your more helpful side.

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Foxfyre wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
I'd thought, it was helpfull to give the link as pdf-data when you don't have powerpoint.

Didn't want to offend someone. Sorry.

I was reacting to your responses to Okie, not your more helpful side.

The responses to okie, btw, were made on [my] late afternoon - I've been up at that time since ... more than 10 hours.

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Clock moves forward two minutes

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IT IS 5 MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT
2007
The world stands at the brink of a second nuclear age. The United States and Russia remain ready to stage a nuclear attack within minutes, North Korea conducts a nuclear test, and many in the international community worry that Iran plans to acquire the Bomb. Climate change also presents a dire challenge to humanity. Damage to ecosystems is already taking place; flooding, destructive storms, increased drought, and polar ice melt are causing loss of life and property.

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The Atomic Scientists should have stayed with Atomic calculations and not made themselves ridiculous by claiming we've been living on a dead planet for 5 billion years >

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/paleo/ctl/images/part2.gif

> since for all those 5 billion years (out of 5.55 bn total) the planet has been WARMER than it is now. Another tiresome thing - more than 70% of "greenhouse gasses" is water vapor, not CO2, and most atmospheric C02 isn't anthropogenic to begin with. The planet has been warming since the last glaciation and it has some 10 degrees Centigrade average to go - upwards - and there's NOTHING we can do about the TOP FIVE causes of the warming (viz. earth's orbital tilt, sun flares, oceanic thermohaline circulation and the like).

I just wish this hysteria would cease, unless someone is claiming he can change our orbital parameters. This politicization of a hitherto respectable scientific organization like the Atomic Scientists is appalling.

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High Seas wrote:

...Another tiresome thing - more than 70% of "greenhouse gasses" is water vapor, not CO2, and most atmospheric C02 isn't anthropogenic to begin with.

I think its more like about 95%. And the portion of CO2 that is manmade is a very small percentage of CO2, or about 0.28% of all greenhouse gases, in other words one fourth of 1% if you can believe it.

One of the interesting graphs shown in the link I posted a couple pages back appears to show that CO2 is not a climate change "driver," but could be an effect from climate change or related factor.

I notice Walter would rather stick to politics instead of debating the science. The Doomsday Clock is nothing more than a wild guess, based on political opinions of current events, which amounts to nothing more than a hill of beans.

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LONDON (AP) -- Scientist Stephen Hawking described climate change Wednesday as a greater threat to the planet than terrorism. Hawking made the remarks as other prominent scientists prepared to push the giant hand of its Doomsday Clock -- a symbol of the risk of atomic cataclysm and now also of climate change -- closer to midnight. Hawking warned that ''as citizens of the world, we have a duty to alert the public to the unnecessary risks that we live with every day.''

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Hawking.html

The reason Hawking's vocalizer takes so long to cough up his electronic 'voice' is because it has to translate from the commie to freedom-speech.

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Naturally, I respect Okie and (Helen?) more than I do Stephen Hawking, who is obviously pushing a political viewpoint.

CYcloptichorn

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blatham wrote:

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LONDON (AP) -- Scientist Stephen Hawking described climate change Wednesday as a greater threat to the planet than terrorism. Hawking made the remarks as other prominent scientists prepared to push the giant hand of its Doomsday Clock -- a symbol of the risk of atomic cataclysm and now also of climate change -- closer to midnight. Hawking warned that ''as citizens of the world, we have a duty to alert the public to the unnecessary risks that we live with every day.''
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Hawking.html

The reason Hawking's vocalizer takes so long to cough up his electronic 'voice' is because it has to translate from the commie to freedom-speech.

Obviously another hill of beans as okie described this in his highly scientific manner.

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blatham wrote:

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LONDON (AP) -- Scientist Stephen Hawking described climate change Wednesday as a greater threat to the planet than terrorism. Hawking made the remarks as other prominent scientists prepared to push the giant hand of its Doomsday Clock -- a symbol of the risk of atomic cataclysm and now also of climate change -- closer to midnight. Hawking warned that ''as citizens of the world, we have a duty to alert the public to the unnecessary risks that we live with every day.''
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Hawking.html

The reason Hawking's vocalizer takes so long to cough up his electronic 'voice' is because it has to translate from the commie to freedom-speech.

Blatham - can't altogether blame you for not reading much of what you write, but I do wish you'd make an effort in that direction. Here every single scientist is agreed there's climate change.

No scientist claims anthropogenic CO2 is anything like a major cause. Hawking says nothing different.

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okie wrote:

I think its more like about 95%.

an expert speaks

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

Naturally, I respect Okie and (Helen?) more than I do Stephen Hawking, who is obviously pushing a political viewpoint.

CYcloptichorn

Thats very good, cyclops, because if you believed Hawking, according to one report: "He said he was afraid that Earth "might end up like Venus, at 250 degrees centigrade and raining sulfuric acid.''"

http://www.livescience.com/environment/ap_060622_hawking_climate.html

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Okie - Hawking may have exaggerated only slightly, if pollution continues unabated; but at least he never claimed that sulphuric acid is a greenhouse gas, as Cyclop here presumably believes. Nice to see you too, Cyclop, and btw you got my old name right.

Steve - there isn't much doubt on atmospheric water vapor as % of all greenhouse gases; it does average 95% (as Okie said), so I don't see where your problem lies.

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"I think its more like 95%" just seemed to me a classic example of the old adage

"'99% percent of all statistics are made up on the spot."

Greenhouse gases work together. As we have suddenly released billions of tonnes of previously captured carbon so the atmosphere warms and can hold more water vapour, giving rise to further warming. Water vapour is the "main greehouse gas" in the sense that there is much more of it than anything else. But molecule for molecule methane is a much more potent "warmer". If the hydrates beneath the permafrost begin to melt, we really should think about finding a new planet.

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