What is Evangelism?

Not like Jesus talked about love. Ayb Rand grew up under the worst conditions of communism. Why her beliefs are so strange is that she concluded that what caused communism to flourish was people's willingness to put personal happiness aside and let others tell you what to do.

National Socialism is a nationalistic (like Trump) socialism (like Biden right now). Just because things share similar words doesn't mean they are the same. China calls itself The People's Republic but more often than not, it is well beyond socialism into communism.

It's still on you to read more than part of a sentence.

I know what my peace and prosperity plan would be. But I cannot guarantee the long term result would be peace. I blame most of the wars, not on religion, but on government. I think we'd have a more peaceful world, if nobodt was in charge.

Be interested to hear Cobbler's response to this question.

Why weren't you here complaining about the terrible government when your dictator crook Trump was in the White House?

My response is, you have been spoiled by your right wing masters who feed you with their corrupting propaganda.

Russian propaganda meant to divide our country and cause it to collapse from within and you are their tool and fool...

I love my government and I am proud to live in a country with a US Constitution as worthy and as noble as our own.

It is the eroding of this Constitution that brings lawlessness and anarchy, supreme court judges who defile their oath to our Constitution.

I do not share your belief in a world without government. Government, of the people, fair elections so we can kick out a loser dictator wannabes and laws protecting the commonwealth, this is how liberty and peace are achieved.

Your ideas are tinged with subversive foreign meddling in our social discourse. Why not go to Russia and preach your anti government crap there?

I hope your Kremlin buddies online pretending to be hillbillies get sent back home soon and their accounts get banned.

Maybe in time you might recover some of your sanity.

Because it wasn't terrible.

Everything Biden does is ****.
-Unceremoniously backed out of an occupation, not from a position of relative strength (which would let Afghanistan largely rule itself, with Al Qaeda knowing that if they tried anything, we'd stomp them), but cutting and running like scared children, allowing the Al Qaeda to retake the country.
-Has been trying since elected to force vaccines down our throats. Look, if you want to take vaccines, I have no objections. I have few objections even to making it free (besides tax hikes). What I do have an objection to is trying to make people unemployed for refusing to cooperate. And if someone comes to my house trying to force me to get something, I'm not a gun toter, but I'm afraid I'm gonna make their brains a chunky mess.
-Likewise trying to sell us on a social justice "infrastructure" plan that will raise expenses by trillions. If we divide by the 300 million in the US, this is alot per person.
-We've already seen the results of Biden on our nearest city, which turned from a historical tourist center to a woke slums in two years. Basically, nobody wants to visit, so they're pushing gambling. I am not into parlay betting, but that seems to be every other commerical.
- Do you know WHY six people stormed the White House? Well aside from false flag, it had a great deal to do with the fact that within a few weeks of office, he built a big wall around his place and hired storm troopers to guard him. Wait wait wait... it's just fine for him to have a wall, but our own borders don't get one? Btw, guarding your base like this is something dictators do. Government is based on consent of the governed. If you have to guard yourself, you obviouslt do not have a legit election.
-Speaking of which,leaving our borders wide open in an attempt to pad votes for himself.
-Every single speech he makes gets softball questions ( "Mr Biden what kind of ice cream did you get?" ) and typically he refuses to answer anything difficult such as why we have supplt line problems when we didn't under Trump.
-Fucks up working systems and actively sabotages the stability of America. We had oil for ourselves, and a working pipeline. He scraps this. Texas btw, gets a power outage when there's a snowstorm and parts of it rely on solar/wind (cold day = power outage)
-The endless excuses for everything he does. The complete lack of account for his actions. He is literally bad enough that Democrats hate him, and stand against him.
-The bullheaded outlook on life, where he tries to force things on people expecting a totally charmless approach to intimidate a free people into submission and not make them angry enough to protest or simply quit.
-Oh yeah, and his hardcore senility means he is basically a puppet run by committee. He personally has told people "President Harris" did this or that, which the mddia corrects as Vice President. He asks Nancy Pelosi what he should do on occasion. He tells people that "he might get in trouble." If he were legit president, this would not be the case. Half the time he doesn't know where he is oe what he shoulf be doing. Simply for incompetence , he should have been removed from office already, but he is a smokescreen, a nice face to hiden extreme radical handlers.
-Inflation and food scarcity. Also, Massachusetts just came up with crazy animal rights laws that mean no eggs for the.

What terrible things did Trump do? I dunno, here's good things.
- Oh right, despite spending 2/3 of his presidency in investigations on *ahem* trumped-up charges like abuse of power (you wanna compare abuse of power?), he managed to undo some of the worst excess of Obama, while keeping as settled law any rights. For example, he kept gay marriages. He disposed of abortion on demand, and the woke $250k fine for misgendering people.
-Disposed of Obamacare. *GASP* However will we manage? Ummm did it ever occur to you that Obamacare is basically a tax? I you like your private insurance, you don't get to keep your private insurance. I checked. Before Obama, Mom and Dad paid for insurance, I got a family plan, and because they had PPO, i got nice insurance for a great rate. Then it switched to Bronze, at far more of a price than I could afford. In other words, I was looking at paying over $400 a month for insurance. They assumed because I I was white and young that I'd pay this, I guess. I waslooking at a $600 fine for not having insurance. Then Trump abolished the individual mandate. People squawking about "what will replace it? Muh preexisting conditions..." Who the **** cares! If people can opt out of insurance, they save money. Or they can shop around. Obamacare basically gave all districts the same price.
-Simplified taxes
-Didn't do anything extreme, just undid the worst of Obama. He tried to simplify laws and get rid of big hidden government organizations accountable to nobody.

I agree with everything you said here, Cobbler.


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Well...that part is a big stretch. I doubt that will ever happen.

You are aware how silly you sound, right?



Yeaaaah, uhhh you two voted for a guy who is like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEqnP90zZyA

He uhhhh, can't uhhhhh form a complete... ... ... sentence without stumbling, mumbling gibberish, or pausing alot.

But then this was never really about him, was it? You just see people as means to ends, and not in terms of their own worth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRJpIwBGT40

He was picked over better candidates by far. Not just Republican, but even other Democrats were surely better than this barely sentient stumbler. Worse, he's dangerous, because he's basically a mouthpiece for the worst policies ever.

So you voted for someone purely because he looks easygoing, yet he basically is a face for shadow government.

https://nypost.com/2021/06/13/going-to-get-in-trouble-with-staff-biden-lets-slip-how-hes-handled/

"I can't say anything, I will get in trouble," he lets slip, when an interviewer wants to talk to him.

You guys talk about sanity. So you tell me.

How is it at all sane to support someone who isn't even the legitimate president? Who is being run by some unseen third parties?

I am not silly, and if you are hearing silly things, look around and see who else is in the room with you. That is where the "silly" is coming from.



I voted for the sane choice. I suppose you voted for someone in your condition.



Looks like you are still not over Trump's loss. Hurts a lot, doesn't it?

GOOD!



Okay.

You seem to be totally nuts. Get help.

You asked.



You are nutso. Get help.

I don't read your bullshit.

You keep telling yourself that.



I know very little about the candidates other than the main two. But apparently there were at least two other candidates. Howie Hawkins and Jo Jorgensen? These names didn't even appear on my ballot. Basically, you voted for someone who might as well be a zombie for all the free will and mental capacity he has.

Okay, apparently these are Green Party and Libertarian candidates. In other words, there were 20 or 30 candidates, but you prop up the two party system. If they're not Republican or Democrat we don't vote for them. So what about these other Democrats?
https://www.cbsnews.com/media/2020-democratic-presidential-candidates/
You just voted for some senile old guy in a suit. When I ask you why, you accuse me of being hung up on the loss instead of a straight answer. You can't tell me why, can you? You voted that way because people told you, right?

And then you spend the rest of the post calling me nuts and telling me to get help, instead of answering a simple question. What is sane about the way you voted? I'm waiting...

Good you're not missing anything, just bigotry, ignorance, selfishness and incel whining.

Yeah, yeah.

You can't answer either.

Why did this man win? He's not charming. He's not particularly intelligent. He barely coherent. He's not even aware of most of what goes on in his own office. (Did not know that $450k was given out to illegal immigrants) He's not aware of things that have been in the news foe weeks. He's not even aware of his most recent meal, I'll bet.



Yes, what are you doing here?

Do you even know what the term incel means? Because to me it's just some term thrown around. Whatever that means, I'm clearly not a part of that group, because I don't know it and have to look it up.



Actually no that's spot on.

Though you've apparently ascribed other traits to this that have ǹothing to do with it.

I don't read bullshit either.

I do not "keep telling myself that."

I merely said it here in response to what you wrote.



Where is that quote from...or is this something else you just made up?



You know very little...PERIOD.

If you want to fanaticize that Joe Biden has no free will and/or deficient mental capacity...fine with me.

You are nuts...so who cares what you fanaticize.



I voted for Joe Biden because he was the sane candidate. Yeah, there were other candidates besides the two major party candidates. I do not vote for someone who has no chance of winning. I do not throw away my vote.

You are nuts...so it makes no difference if you do throw yours away. In fact, the Republic is the better if you do.



Okay...keep waiting. I would much rather bait you than answer your idiotic questions. I suspect most people posting here would also.

Ive always tried to unerstand the differences between Fundamentalist Christians and vangelical Christians.
I think Ive got the gist of it.
Enangelicals clebrate Xtian differences (g thye think of Catholics and Protestants as separated bretheren of a ingle faith)

Whereas Fundamentalists believe that their way (BAsed upon inerrant Biblical FACTS) is the only way and all others are cults.

weve got some of both here.

There are several flavors of Christians.

They are separated by how they approach "the Word" (Bible)

Most place tradition first.
So they follow what the church has done for centuries over what they may discover in the Bible.

90% of all religions place tradition first.

There are some churches that are heavily influenced by the Bible such that it has eroded many of their traditions.

But they are still holding on to most of their traditions even though there is no biblical ground whatsoever for these traditions.

i.e. Santa Claus is never mentions in the Bible...

Perhaps there is 1-10% of all religions that have loosened the shackles of tradition and they have claimed that the Bible (Word of God) is their sole and only rule of faith and practice.

Fundamentalism tries and fails miserably at this. They claim to follow the Word but their traditions still hold the vast majority of power. They still openly embrace tradition.

Evangelism can come in many forms it is mostly geared towards finding new converts whatever flavor of church they are affiliated with.

The 1-10% that claim to use "only" the Bible, approach the Bible from a scientific point of view. If you can imagine that. They look at "every" scripture, originals languages and study it minutely and try and squash it all together.

They believe some passages are literal and some figurative.

They believe God inspired each and every verse.

They change when their traditions do not align with their biblical discoveries.

The Bible is full of a lot of disconcerting stuff. Tradition can sometimes divert from that stuff. So be it runaway traditions or a strong adherence to what is written, the final result in either case is a lot of really weird people who are convinced their way is the only way.

The word fundamental means how much the church relies on the Bible.
Though most religions rely primarily on tradition, this is rather a misnomer.

Fundamentalism is used to says they are right and everyone is wrong because they use some part of the Bible to prove it. While they ignore hundreds of other passages that negate their doctrines and traditions. Tradition is merely a way to ignore what is written.

Tradition is the most widely spread proclamation of faith. This is why most religions do not resemble the Jesus we all seem to know from the Bible.

Evangelism is how they spread their faithless fundamentalism garbage to the masses...

Their militant traditions overrule the written stories of Jesus' charity.

Many churches, their parishioners are not likely at all to have ever picked up a Bible and read it. And just because thy carry a Bible everywhere they go does not mean they are not part of a traditional religious system.

Keeping their subjects dumb allows these traditions to take root and flourish.

They flood them with the blood of Jesus music and they stand for hours waving their hands in the air trying to "touch the hand of God". Mindless crap, Jesus for idiots.

Those churches who "study" the Bible are more likely to produce a more intelligent believer. Unfortunately, though they are very few in numbers they are also prone to believing in some rather stupid and hateful stuff.

Both ways, be it tradition or the Bible (as the sole and only rule of faith and practice) are roads to obscurity, falsehoods, half truths and mind control through religious/social power structures.

Though, I prefer the latter (those who study the Bible) they are often considered "cults" even though their adherents are much more intelligent and rational they are also in a tiny minority of today's churches. Because they stray from the traditional churches that most people expect to see they are marginalized.

In a nutshell, the Bible is not what the majority of today's churches follow.

When it all boils down to it, they don't care what the Bible really says.

On the other hand, what the Bible really says is often, crap...

Both ways lead heavily to disillusionment and damage to the human psyche.

25th December is the birthday of the Roman God Sol Invictus. He was a war god worshipped by the emperor Aurelian. His was the first attempt to impose a state religion on the people.

Constantine was successful with Christianity, but they kept 25th December as the birthday because people were already celebrating on that date.

Tomorrow is the Winter Solstice, Yuletide, and just down the road from me a load of druids will be heading to Stonehenge for the celebrations.

This season has always had a very pagan feel over here. Father Christmas is not our name for Santa Claus, the latter is a contraction of St Nicholas the Turkish Saint who gave money away.

Father Christmas comes from the pagan figure of the Holly King, the nature spirit who rules during the winter months, his counterpart being the Oak King. He was always a figure of revelry and party going.

As such he is merry and often in a state of intoxication. We do not leave him milk and cookies, he gets a mince pie, it is Christmas after all, and a glass of brandy.

Mincepies do not have any meat in them, our mincemeat is a mix of spices, raisins, mixed peel, all sorts. Various different companies have their own recipes and there are variations, but it is sweet, not savoury.

I top mine with viennese swirls, they always get eaten, my Brazilian daughter in law is particularly fond of them.

I find all of the festivities, especially those reverencing the seasonal change, to all be full of mirth and good cheer.

Seasonal and New Years greetings to you Izzy and A2K!

🌟💝🌈

Happy Yule for tomorrow.

Merry Christmas at the weekend and Happy New Year the week after.