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What is Evangelism?

 
 
brianjakub
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2018 11:40 am
@TheCobbler,
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In a way, human nature and psyche was allowed to live by grace.


That is how it was before the flood and it got so bad it required a do over.

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Freedom from the law is in regard to God's judgment, not man's judgment.

The Bible talks of a time in the future when only God will do the judging, when all of the dead will be alive or resurrected. On this day the church will be free from wrath or judgment...


And we are not there yet.

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Both the Jews of Jesus' time and the Roman detested ancient Jewish laws that were both barbaric and burdensome. The law of liberty was justification for leaving "many" of the old testament laws behind for both rabbinic Judaism and free thinking Romans who were appalled by ancient Jewish legalism. This newfound freedom from the law ushered in an new age of reason and "liberty". Wars would have progressed to the point of cataclysmic annihilation of the Jews of Jesus' day had not this "compromise" been reached with the law of liberty.

From this point on not every Jewish child was forced to become a lawyer.

Schools were able to drop law as a requirement and changed from reading, writing, arithmetic AND LAW to just reading, writing and arithmetic.

Secularism was born in the Jewish culture.
And soon after that the Jewish culture and nation nearly disappeared from the face of the Earth.

The strict laws given to the Jews were given to them to guarantee their existence.

They were to destroy any enemy completely because it was their job to survive and deliver the law and the truth in the old testament and the genetic line for the savior.

Once the Jesus was born the law was fulfilled and the genetic line was ended. The Jewish nation is still a chosen nation but there main purpose has been fulfilled. Now a Jewish person is supposed to accept Jesus as their savior and become a completed Jew. (or a Jewish Christian).

Now the Holy Spirit living in every Christians heart replaces the law, and the physical presence of Jesus in the Catholic Eucharistic physically carries on the physical genetic code in humans that live there lives as Catholics.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2018 04:08 am
Don't Judge A Book By Its Cover
https://www.facebook.com/RantNationCRTV/videos/410543489449887/
brianjakub
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2018 06:59 am
@TheCobbler,
There are two places God enters the world physically that we as humans can witness everyday. If an atheist wants to see the hand of God at work these two places are physically visible. One is when a man and woman make love and create and the couple along with God bring a new human intelligence and body into the universe. The other is when a Catholic goes to confession and then receives the Eucharist in a state of grace.

The reason that is true is because every priest had hands laid on him and was breathed on by a bishop that had the same thing happen to him by a bishop. That laying of hands on the catholic priest is an unbroken chain that goes clear back to the apostles when Jesus laid hands on them and made them the first priests and bishops.

The unfortunate thing here is Graham Norton will probably never get to physically experience God because in the Eucharistic because the gift of the priesthood was handed down through fallen men and the mass is performed by fallen men with fallen parishioners in the church.

I went to an unbound retreat in our Catholic diocese in Lincoln NE. The man leading the retreat was covered in tattoos and ran a tatto parlor. He only did tattooing part time now because the diocese (run by a catholic bishop) hired him full time to run the retreats.

The retreat is based on the book “Unbound”. I Strongly recommend it. It is a nondenominational Christian book.

TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2018 07:44 am
@brianjakub,
Atheists make babies too and pedophile priests pass out the Eucharist with the same hands they laid on minors. If your hypothesis was true these pedophile priests would be passing out damnation...

Your argument is unconvincing and silly at best. I am not anti-catholic I think all religions are silly "equally".

The only place God might be seen is when people do selfless good deeds for others and, once again, you not have to be religious. The Kind Samaritan story is about a non religious immigrant who demonstrated Gods love without religion to guide him.

Ethics, love and procreation do not need God to exist, they exist in spite of those who profess to possess God.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2018 07:54 am
@TheCobbler,
It's nonsense, and it's quite disturbing nonsense too. One category, sin, means that something fairly innocuous like pinching a toffee is put in the same category as raping a child. The priests' ability to hand out absolution means that the child abuser needn't change his behaviour because he can keep receiving absolution and it doesn't take the victims into account. That's why Catholics have been abusing children for hundreds of years. It's disgusting.

Here's a bit of good news though. (Over here at least.)

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Controversial "gay conversion therapies" are to be banned as part of a government plan to improve the lives of gay and transgender people.

A national survey of 108,000 members of the LGBT community suggested 2% have undergone the practice with another 5% having been offered it.

It also found more than two-thirds of LGBT people avoid holding hands in public, for fear of negative reactions.

The prime minister said nobody "should ever have to hide who they are".

A 75-point plan to improve the lives of LGBT people, costing £4.5m, has been produced in response to the survey. It includes plans to introduce a national LGBT health advisor, tackle discrimination, improve the response to hate crime and to improve diversity in education institutions.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44686374
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2018 10:08 am
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 02:10 am
@TheCobbler,
Fortunately the Catholic God doesn't decide things on Earth, perpetrators of child sex abuse, and those who helped them, get punished.

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A Catholic archbishop in Australia says he will appeal against his conviction for concealing child sexual abuse.

Archbishop of Adelaide Philip Wilson was found guilty in May of covering up abuse by a paedophile priest in New South Wales.

He is the most senior Catholic globally to be convicted of the crime.

During his trial, Wilson denied that he knew of the abuse of altar boys by a paedophile priest in the 1970s. He announced his appeal on Wednesday.

"I am conscious of calls for me to resign and have taken them very seriously," he said in a statement.

"However, at this time, I am entitled to exercise my legal rights and to follow the due process of law."

On Tuesday, a court sentenced Wilson to a maximum of 12 months in detention.

A magistrate ordered Wilson to be assessed for "home detention" - meaning he will probably avoid jail.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-44706783
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 11:40 am
@TheCobbler,
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Atheists make babies too and pedophile priests pass out the Eucharist with the same hands they laid on minors. If your hypothesis was true these pedophile priests would be passing out damnation...
All humans are children of God and His hand is involved in the combining of the mind and body into a human being every time it happens.

The priest is physically and mentally flawed. We all have imperfections. Perfection physically enters the universe in the sacraments through the human bodies, spirits, and minds that participate in the sacrament.

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The only place God might be seen is when people do selfless good deeds for others and, once again, you not have to be religious. The Kind Samaritan story is about a non religious immigrant who demonstrated Gods love without religion to guide him


That is one place I agree. It is hard to argue God is there if the human wants to take all the credit though. You can rightfully argue God isn't involved there.

But, man cannot create a mind or a life let alone combine them. Beyond our capabilities, period.

Receiving the Eucharist in a state of grace (after a valid confession) is a physical act that does the same thing to a person's body that happened to Jesus and the universe when he went through death and resurrection.

Hundreds of people witnessed the death of Jesus and His resurrected body and all know those acts are beyond are capabilities.

What isn't talked about as much is how the universe was prepared for reestablishment of the initial state of perfection the evidence being the earthquake and the darkening of the sun in the afternoon. I think it can be scientifically argued (using entropic gravity) that the final days of that transition will be marked by a universal rise in temperature.

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Ethics, love and procreation do not need God to exist, they exist in spite of those who profess to possess God.


But they need man to exist and man needs God to exist because only He can create something from nothing and life from nonliving matter.
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 11:55 am
@izzythepush,
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One category, sin, means that something fairly innocuous like pinching a toffee is put in the same category as raping a child.
That is not a teaching of the catholic church. I suggest you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church (or at least the parts you want to comment on) before you comment on the degrees of sin and the priesthood.. (it is covered)
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

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That's why Catholics have been abusing children for hundreds of years. It's disgusting.


That is not the teachings of the Catholic Church. That is what happens when bishops do not follow the teachings of the church and instead make decisions based on their own perverted feelings instead of the Word of God and a common sense understanding of reality.

At least you and I agree on one thing perverted acts are disgusting and something should be done about them by people in authority when a common sense understanding of reality is violated.

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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 06:25 am
Today I ponder the existential idea that, "miracles are God's mistakes".

Does God prefer to remain unseen?
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 06:32 am
Brianjakub wrote:
Hundreds of people witnessed the death of Jesus and His resurrected body and all know those acts are beyond are capabilities.


Millions of people have witnessed Harry Potter do magic...

Seeing is not always a verity of truth.

Did Jesus have a twin?

...It only takes one dishonest scribe/author to make such claims of eye witness. Then, history and zealous clergy promulgate the lie quite efficiently.

Luke Skywalker is the only begotten son of Darth as witnessed by many adoring followers... 100 years from now this idea could have easily become fact/faith.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 07:17 am
@TheCobbler,
And you could be a random word generator. If a being is capable of creating a universe this vast and the life in it, don’t you think he would reestablish the line of communication after we broke it with sin. Possibly by entering the universe himself as a person in Jesus who reestablishes the line of communication. Seems like a logical way to do it to me.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 09:06 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:

Brianjakub wrote:
Hundreds of people witnessed the death of Jesus and His resurrected body and all know those acts are beyond are capabilities.


Millions of people have witnessed Harry Potter do magic...



Exactly, there's no objective account of what happened. There's no definitive proof that Jesus even existed. We have 3rd 4th hand accounts of something that allegedly happened based on the testimony of people with a vested interest. When you factor in the fact that Jesus only did what Marduk, Osiris, Odin and a host of other sacrificial gods did previously it gets even murkier.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 10:35 am
@izzythepush,
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Exactly, there's no objective account of what happened. There's no definitive proof that Jesus even existed. We have 3rd 4th hand accounts of something that allegedly happened based on the testimony of people with a vested interest. When you factor in the fact that Jesus only did what Marduk, Osiris, Odin and a host of other sacrificial gods did previously it gets even murkier.
Or it clarifies the story. What happens when you tie both stories together?

What if Marduk, Osiris, Odin and a host of other sacrificial gods did previously are just men that were trying to be like God.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 01:36 pm
Canada Bans Christianity From The Classroom
https://yournewswire.com/canada-bans-christianity-classroom/

Religion belongs in optional churches not mandatory schools.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 05:35 am
@TheCobbler,
How about optional christian schools.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2018 09:15 am
@brianjakub,
Religion and school is an oxymoron.

Science should not be "optional"...
brianjakub
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2018 08:57 pm
@TheCobbler,
Christian-based science for diversity's sake
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2018 09:28 pm
@brianjakub,
If you truly received an education in a Catholic school you would know that science is welcome, not bullshit diversity based junk science to assuage the egos of people who can't bear the idea that God may have set evolution into play. Science is not your enemy.....ignorance, intolerance, and arrogance are what you need to purge from your ego.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 09:02 am
Study shows gay men may make the best fathers
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/?p=253039?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=onesignal

"Overall, children of gay and lesbian couples showed fewer psychological problems than those of heterosexuals, and girls tended to be more sociable than boys regardless of the makeup of their families."
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