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Whats with workers nowadays?

 
 
Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2005 02:24 pm
Clift note version:

I hire man. (30 yo's)
He works for me.
He works well for periods of time and then period of times he's lazy.
His wife works for me also. (she is bi-polar and not on medication, hard to deal with at times)

Last weekend, NYE weekend, he pulled a..."I'm sick", routine. Asked me if I would be able to cover him Sat. Morning if he wasn't able to come in. He wasn't sick at the moment, but thought he might be Sat morning..HAHA I told him that I wouldn't be in town. I would be at a resort and no one would be able to get ahold of me. (This trip had been planned for 6 months)

He gets pissy.

I come to work Monday and I have the biggest mess on my hands. Dirty pans left in the oven, crumbs all over my kicthen. The deep fryer hadn't been filtered or changed. The sink...well, you could have wrote your name in the grease that was left on it the inside walls of it. The food that is prepped to use on sandwiches was not prepped like it was sopposed to be. Where it is to be finely chopped...there was half heads of lettuce, or giant chunks.

Ok..so I get pissy.

This is my kicthen, and my job....and I am one of those people that believe that food is not only to be cooked properly, but placed on the plate the right way, and its to be garnished where its appealing to the eyes as well at the nose when the customer gets it.

Throw that in, with the mess he left me...all the work I had to do to get caught up, I decided to have a talk with him and his wife that afternoon.

I was very VERY nice about it. I told him there were things that weren't done right. And yes, I told him he stunk at cutting food up..that if he couldn't do a better job of it, I would leave enough done for him that he wouldn't have to do it.

So...he goes into drama queen mode and tells one lie after another about what I had to say to him. (I had witnesses)

So.........make a long story short.

HE goes to another employee and quits. (one that has no management position or authority down there)

Friday, which is pay day comes up. He shows up ...smuggly smiling at me, wanting his check. Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not one to keep my mouth shut. So I ask him about him quitting.

He says........yeah, I quit.

I them told him it didn't work that way down here, that if he was going to quit, that he needed to quit through me, or two others.

This man, comes unglued. And it didn't help that I cracked up laughing at his dumbass. He told me that I insulted him. That I told him he sucked at his job. ( No, I didn't) He tries to insinuate that I did. I simply told him that all said was that he stunk at cutting up veggies. Well...........He then throws a hissy fit and tells me, I insulted his work, that when I did that, I also insulted him.

OOOOMMMMGGGGG, how childish can you get? So..whats up with people today. Why do they think that they are entitled to a paycheck for doing nothing but standing around and smoking? Last year, we went through 57 employees. This year we went through 21, which was better. Thats the whole business, mine is a smaller part of the whole set up. But my god...its unreal. I don't understand people today that have no work ethic. What have we done that is different than when our parents were raised up? Is it the fact that children are more spoiled than they were back in the 50's and 60's...or what?
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makemeshiver33
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jan, 2005 01:32 am
Ohhh come on!! Don't tell me everyone is so literally happy at work, or doesn't have someone that drives them nutts with thier work ethics?

Not everyone is a saint......
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sublime1
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jan, 2005 12:34 pm
I pride myself on my work ethic. I install high end appliances and I don't like to leave a job until everything is perfect, but the turn around rate of installers is huge. A lot of people come in thinking it is an easy job and a week later they quit with sore backs. unfortunately some stay and make their partners job much harder by their laziness. Having a good partner is imperative in my job because you have to spend 8-12 hours a day with this person so whenever I had a partner like this I never hesitated to tell the people that mattered.
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makemeshiver33
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jan, 2005 06:29 pm
I don't blame you sublime. Been there, done that.

I guess the thing that bothers me the most is people will put in an application for a job, and then half ass it. Someone has to take up thier slack and in the end, they are getting the same rate of pay you are. Thats not right, but than again...whose smarter?

I actually had a woman come in for one of the jobs that I had opened up. I knew from the get go that she wouldn't do what was expected of her. I talked to her about the job and explained to her that there was more to it than seemed. That it was tedious at times, loads of prep work and etc. The next day when it was time for her to show, she never showed up. And matter of fact, we haven't seen her in the cafe since then. Whats up with that?
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sublime1
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jan, 2005 06:41 pm
It sounds like you talked her out of the job.

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Thats not right, but than again...whose smarter?


You have a point and not that they would care but the sense of accomplishment after a job well done is enough for me. Or in the more literal sense I am getting smarter by doing more and gaing more experience where the other guy will eventually get fired.
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makemeshiver33
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 07:50 pm
I probably did talk her out of the job. That was my aim to start with. If they still want it after I talk about all the crap that goes with it, then they might be worth hiring. IF you scare them off to start with, they would'nt have given it a half hearted try. And I need everyone giving 110%....

I like the sense of accomplishing something....at the end of a day. I like a challenge...and when I can win that challenge, I feel GREAT!
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boomerang
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 08:16 pm
Reading this makes me realize how very very lucky I am.

I have very little turnover in staff - but my staff is small, only about 10 people.

I will quickly fire anyone who is not pulling their weight or who doesn't buy into the idea of what we are doing. Most of my applicants tell me how "fun" they think it would be to work at a photo studio and I too try to talk them out of it.

It's hard! You are dealing with people's egos and weaknesses and insecurities as much as anything else. It is very demading physically and psychologically and a lot of it is total durdgery.

And yes, you have to clean the toilets, and dog pee, and kid vomit and whatever else a human and their affectations can throw at you.

If they make it past the first two weeks they are usually there until hell freezes over.
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makemeshiver33
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 09:37 pm
Yes Boomerang you are lucky....bless you!

And you go.......about firing people that aren't pulling thier wieght. I don't blame you one bit!!

Thats all I ask........is do your job. And if you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
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duce
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2005 04:16 pm
I've had jobs I LOVED and Jobs I HATED.

My supervisors treatment of me had alot of effect on that. I guess I need an attaboy more than $$.

I also need the rich not to show off so much when I have worked for them. (Like spending 4million for a "pet" Elephant, having their picture taken and giving it to us for Xmas gifts).

If I perceive My Employer does not value me, it makes it hard for me to value him or his business.

Nowadays I do not define myself by what I do, What I do helps me have $ to help define who I am.
No one is going to care as much about your business as you do..Firm/Fair ig good.

The lazy will not put up w/the firm..Hiring Friends and family s/b avoided if at all possible.
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makemeshiver33
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 07:23 am
Awww, I had to revive this...

AS some of you know, I have been working overtime at my job for the past 6 weeks. This is my first weekend off in that length of time, more or less, my first day off in 6 weeks. YIPPPPPEEEEEEEE

But let me tell you...I am still at a loss over people and thier work ethics!!

9 or 10 weeks ago, I had a young lady that was working for me, put in her 2 week notice. She followed through with it and finished out her two weeks. I was thankfull for that much. She's the young lady that took over where Mr. Pissy Pants left off beforehand. I could not get that young lady to do as expected...that was a fiasco. But she left, and I was honestly proud that she quit, she was running off my customers left and right...no matter what I done to change things. (I actually had to stand over her at times and watch what she was sending out)

I hired another young lady, that really wanted to work...really really bad!!! YEAAAAAAAAAA RIGHT!

She lasted 9 days....make a long story short, after having to tell her REPEATEDLY how to make things, how to put it on THE PLATE..ETC, I made her cry...and she didn't show up the next day.

That was the start of my 6 week run without a day off.

Up next was another young lady that I hired.(a couple of weeks later)..a sweet girl...one that wants to work and I trained her for 5 days straight, she run every step that I made and I honestly thought she was going to drop like a fly. But she made it, until the first weekend by herself...I get a call from her the night before. She was in a sling........yadda yadda yadda.

So........that left me in the kitchen again........

I called the other lady that I had working in the cafe, I'm up to a month now without a day off.....I told her to be at work at 10 the next morning, that I would do breakfast and she could finish up the day. SHE QUIT.....because as she put it,.."She didn't give a damn that I hadn't had a day off in a month, she wasn't working 4 hours on a Sat, she HAD PLANS!"

So...........that left me stranded again.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo, Up comes a lady that is in her 50's, or so I think. She's very convincing, she's done this work before, she CAN DO IT........SHE's DONE IT ALL. Application in hand, .....looks good, I hire her.

I am desperate at this point for help, since there is none.......

I tell her, that I'll train her for 5 days straight, and then she's being turned loose on the weekend. That I have to have a DAY OFF!!!

So the first Sat...that I'm to start training her, we just happened to call her the night before to make sure she would be coming in with me, and thats when she tells us that..."welllll.......you see, I did'nt know how to tell you, I have to do a Defensive driving course on Sats...and I'll have to go and do that, I can't start on Sat, it'll have to be Sun." Desperate for help, I let it go.....and let her start on Sun.

That was my first mistake.

She comes in.........and I have never in my life had this much trouble trying to explain things to someone. She does not comprehend a DAMNED THING that I'm telling her.

She's late her 3rd day.....I tried to let it go...

On the 4 day of training her, I am BESIDE MYSELF.......I'm not only playing THERAPIST, but I'm having to REPEAT MYSELF every 2 minutes.

Come to find out, this women that I thought was in her mid 50's is only 40.........she's a reformed meth head, been clean for 8 months. She is soooooooooooo burnt out that I would have better luck training my 6 year old how to do it. Not to count, she is an alcoholic to boot...thus the defensive driving courses... I'm at my wits end with her...and wanting to let her go...tell her to just go home. She's begging me NOT to fire her...which makes things worse..BUT This is fruitless......I am going behind her having to tell her to put things back up in the cooler, fridge, freezer, to wipe down things, wash this, wash that...I'm better off on my own.

Its not that hard, I have notes on everything posted here, there and yonder to guide you though it. ITs repetetive things, you have to do everyday. She's done them for 5 days...and still don't know anything I have told her, pointed out to her.....its frustrating as hell.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrr....LOL
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 08:21 am
It might be an idea, if you can, to get a professional recruiting company to do your interviewing for you. They can filter through applications and sort the dross, do the preliminary interviews and send you the best three. You an interview them yourself or just sit in on the final interview and select the best candidate. I've done it and it works well in my experience.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 08:33 am
I may be wrong, but you get what you pay for. In lower paying jobs like prep cook, it's hard to find people that will bust their ass for that price range(as an employer) job. I used to be surprised, as a little Slappy working as a cashier at a grocery store, how lazy people were in general.

Then again, there's people that make a ton of $$ that are lazy bastards, too.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 02:14 pm
I understand managing a restaurant is job with extraordinarily high stress levels.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 02:38 pm
I've only worked at a couple of restaurants, not managed, and I can tell running a busy place could be hell. Dealing with the whole staff, plus the high amount of ignorant demanding customers.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 02:48 pm
I think Makesmeshiver lives in a rural area small town without much of a nearby population of ready sharp workers to interview, goodfielder. This must be terribly frustrating.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 07:14 pm
ossobuco wrote:
I think Makesmeshiver lives in a rural area small town without much of a nearby population of ready sharp workers to interview, goodfielder. This must be terribly frustrating.


Ah thanks ossobuco - you're right, that on top of running the business (as has been pointed out, a challenge in itself) would be a huge burden.

Okay then I have an idea. If Makesmeshiver is tracking the thread, might I suggest that behavioral interviewing (I'm using American spelling because you might like to google it, there are lots of resources on it) might be useful if you aren't using it already.

And has been pointed out (there is a lot of practical wisdom in this thread) the applicants are probably not (only probably) going to be too academically inclined, but behavioral interviewing can be used easily because it asks people specific questions based on their personal experience and asks for an extrapolation so that the interviewer can make a (usually) accurate prediction about fufure behaviour (oops I used my spelling).

Feel free to PM me if you need any more info Makesmeshiver.
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