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The Theory of the TSUNAMI being man made is very interesting

 
 
Reply Wed 5 Jan, 2005 05:18 pm
Experimental "Tsunami Bomb" Tests Conducted in the 40s; U.S. Was "Impressed"
by joejoehead at 11:29AM (CST) on January 2, 2005 | Permanent Link | Cosmos
SECRET WARTIME experiments were conducted off the New Zealand coast to perfect a bomb that could trigger devastating tidal waves, according to government files declassified in Auckland.

The New Zealand Herald, citing the files, said that senior United States defence officials believed the weapon had the potential to be as deadly as the atomic bomb. But the tsunami bomb, as it was known, was never fully tested and the war ended before the project was completed.

Its mastermind was Thomas Leech, an Australian professor who as the dean of engineering at Auckland University from 1940 to 1950. He was seconded to the New Zealand Army during the Second World War. He set off a series of underwater explosions that triggered mini tidal waves at Whangaparaoa, just north of Auckland, in 1944 and 1945.

Details of the research, known as Project Seal, are contained in 53- year-old documents released by the New Zealand Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

The papers, stamped "Top Secret", show that America and Britain were keen for Seal to be developed in the postwar years. They even considered sending Professor Leech to Bikini Atoll to watch the US nuclear tests and see if they had any application to his work.

In the end, he did not make the visit, although Dr Karl Compton, a member of the US board of assessors of nuclear tests, was sent to New Zealand to meet him.

In July 1946, a letter from Washington to Wellington Defence Headquarters stated: "Dr Compton is impressed with Professor Leech's deductions on the Seal Project and is prepared to recommend to the Joint Chiefs of Staff that all technical data from the test, relevant to the Seal Project, should be made available to the New Zealand government for further study."

The announcement in 1947 that he had been awarded a CBE for weapons research led to speculation in some newspapers outside New Zealand about the nature of the work that he had been conducting. No details were released about it at the time because the project was still under way.

Neil Kirton, a former colleague of Professor Leech, told the New Zealand Herald that the experiments involved laying a pattern of explosives underwater to create a tidal wave.

Small-scale explosions were set off in the Pacific and off Whangaparaoa, which was controlled by the army at the time. Mr Kirton said he doubted whether people living in Auckland at the time would have noticed the trials.

What happened to Project Seal once the final report was forwarded to Wellington in the late 1940s is not clear.

Mr Kirton said: "If it could ever be resurrected, under some circumstances I think it could be devastating."
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OutoftheSky
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jan, 2005 05:39 pm
Having book marked this,i was trying to predict who could be possibly attacked next under the context of Antiamericanism, antiwar, muslim, OIL.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2906383.stm

Handling Indonesia's anti-war anger

By Rachel Harvey
BBC correspondent in Jakarta

Indonesia, the most populous Muslim country in the world, has been the scene of daily protests since the war in Iraq began.

What would the 'Coalition" want with INdonesia?

answer??
Indonesia poised to lead Asian rebound - Indonesian petroleum industry will play a key role
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3159/is_2_221/ai_60499090

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39036000/jpg/_39036569_protest_ap203.jpg
Protesters march towards the US embassy during an anti-war demonstration in Jakarta, Indonesia

The conflict may be thousands of miles away, but it is being watched closely here.

And many people do not like what they see.

"The USA has always done something unfair. We don't like any colonialism from one country to another country. Based on that, we tell the world that we don't like the war," one man said.


Then this........
Tsunami may have damaged Indian nuclear power plant: government
http://government.india.news.designerz.com/tsunami-may-have-damaged-indian-nuclear-power-plant-government.html

The only people that have been benefiting from the tdunami are the U.s Corporations. no?

OIL OIL OIL sigh. http://www.unocal.com/globalops/indonsa.htm
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jan, 2005 09:02 pm
sorry. A seismic wave was propogated by an earthquake in a subduction zone. Nobody has been able to mimic an arthquake seismic report unless its located at exactly the depth of propogation. Any device thaat would not have used an earth/earth coupled energy release, would leave s eismic trace that is entirely different than an earthquake. This one was classic , go to any decent stated geologic survey web site and find the seismic record. (In the US east coaast) the record is about 2 hours long from crash Pwave/S wave to L waves. Most surveys will have it speeded up on an animation program that accompanies the seismic station software.

it was really a dip slip earthquake, a friggin monster. I looked at data from Delaware and PA and the seismic traces were pegged to the stops even though we are halfway across the planet.

Dont start another conspiracy thread on tis cause youre not the first
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jan, 2005 09:45 pm
lHmm lost the image from Lamonts seismic station
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jan, 2005 09:51 pm
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/WebSeis/PAL/2004/2004361/PAL.LD.BHZ.2004.361.0000.gif
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jan, 2005 09:54 pm
well there it is. I have no idea what I did wrong
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jan, 2005 11:08 pm
An extra "http" in the url and no file extension on the ending.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jan, 2005 11:58 pm
My recollection is that they've been able to tell the difference between nuclear explosions and natural seismic events since, what, the mid '60s? Worried about the Russians conducting underground nuclear tests.

(And everyone else can do it, too.)
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 09:15 am
out of the sky

There are good reasons to criticize the US for the consequences of it's oil hunger, but this is not one of them. There are earth scientists all over the world quite able to differentiate a nuclear explosion from a subduction zone event.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 10:00 am
The theory itself is without interest. It is very interesting that such theories are dreamed up.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 10:18 am
roger

Indeed. The key work on this is Richard Hofstadter's "The Parnoid Style in American Politics"

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/conspiracy_theory/the_paranoid_mentality/The_paranoid_style.html
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 10:32 am
The theory evolves from the premise by some that whatever tragedy occurs whether man made or natural is the fault of the underhanded actions of the US.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 11:01 am
I just gave it a quick skim, blatham, and may make time later to do it justice. Paranoid Style might be good usage. Sometimes there really is a conspiracy, and sometimes the theory contains enough truth to make the outrageous seem plausible.

Good to see you back on board, by the way.
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Rafick
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 12:02 pm
The ability to trigger earthquakes, floods, hurricanes and even effect peoples brains and the Earth's own tectonic plates is now a very real possibility.

The research has been done, the tests completed and the weaponry has been deployed, and maybe even used.

It's called HAARP (High-frequency Active Aural Research Program) and was developed as part of the "Star Wars" initiative.

Incredible Coincidence: A massive earthquake in Asia unleashed tsunamis killing 0ver one hundred thousand, exactly one year to the hour after the Bam, Iran earthquake killed 26,000. What are the odds of two of the most destructive earthquakes in decades occuring exactly one year apart- almost to the minute!

December 26, 2003 - Bam, Iran, only 6.6 on the richter scale, but quake is centered directly under the city- 26,000 dead.

December 26, 2004 - Centered off the Indonesian island of Sumatra, the massive quake, which measured 9.0 on the richter scale, unleashed tidal waves across the Indian Ocean.

2003 Iran Quake: December 26 01:56:52 UTC

2004 Asia Quake: December 26 00:58:55 UTC

Exactly one year apart to-the-hour, 58 minutes shy of being to-the-minute!

This an amazing coincidence- or is it more than coincidence?

The United States government has the capability of creating earthquakes with HAARP. [See article below and Google]

source, http://edstrong.blog-city.com/read/982641.htm
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 01:25 pm
You are so full of **** your eyes are brown.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 01:28 pm
0.o

Don't hold back, Farmer, tell him how ya really feel!

Cycloptichorn
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OutoftheSky
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 01:42 pm
http://www.stvincent.ac.uk/Resources/EarthSci/Links/manmade.html



Earth Sciences: Man-made events
http://www.stvincent.ac.uk/Resources/EarthSci/Links/images/nucleartest.gif
The map above shows the plotted earthquake events for the end of September and beginning of October 1995. On 1st October, the French government detonated an underground nuclear device at their Mururoa Atoll test site in the Pacific Ocean. The event was detected and classified as a Richter magnitude 5.5 event - is marked in purple on the map and is clearly unusual as the only seismic event away from a plate margin.

France test a bomb, 5.5...hmmm thats alot for a publicized test. imagine that on a fault line? under water?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 04:40 pm
The French bomb test was near a bunch of fault lines, the challenger fault line and easter Island zone. The entire tomuraato islands sits almost perpendicular to fault lines and has a history of seismic events. Whats your point? That somehow we caused the ecah earthquake and tsunami?
HAave we been to White Castle yet? we must have the munchies
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 05:23 pm
Huh? Paranoia is now caused by low body grease levels?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2005 12:05 am
It was a sophisticated literary comment rog. Apparently you have not seen "Howard and Kumar go To White CAstle"

The premise is quite simple
1 you get totally wrecked on weed
2 This leads to severe munchies
3The satisfaction of above munchies leads to wild and crazy adventures en route
4Ats about it
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