You & your neighbours

@dadpad,

Wow, dp!

You and edgar should compare stories & strategies! Smile

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My next door neighbor works her yard daily. Yesterday, her habit saved me a flood and larger than normal water bill. She arrived shortly after Punky the dog, who has been very mischievous of late, removed the wrapping from a faucet, a process that opened the spigot. The neighbor's phone call alerted me in time to cut it off before the puddle became over ten feet wide. Punky has reverted to her younger behavior, since I began giving her health products.

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@edgarblythe,

Thank goodness for your neighbour, edgar.

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Punky has reverted to her younger behavior, since I began giving her health products.

What exactly is in that health product?

Bad, bad girl, punky! Laughing

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Question Edgar....

Do you and/or your wife feel physically threatened by these peoples presence?

Do you think they could cross the line and hurt you?

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@farmerman,

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Amish school hostage shootings of 2006.

farmerman wrote:

Its amazing how the AMish community has come together with the English neighbors to show us all how true forgiveness is accomplished when its part of the communities heritage. Ive been seeing this as a real teaching "moment" for we who give the finger to everyone who cuts us off in traffic, or bumpas ahead in a post office line.
Whats important is how those of us left after the shooting have actually learned the lesson of forgiveness and no retribution.

Against WHOM, is there no retribution?

farmerman wrote:

The AMish did tear down the school where the tragedy occured and then rebuilt the new school within an area that about a half mile away from the torn down schoolhouse and there there is a small meadow near a pond. I see the kids outside playing in the snow and ice skating on the pond at recess as I go by several times a week and have , instead of reliving the incident, been almost renewed at their living lesson of forgiveness

Who did thay forgive ?

farmerman wrote:

PS(I dont think that Om SIG DAve would feel really comfortable
with all these peaceful folks around here.)

My neighborhood in Queens is 100% peaceful.
The worst disturbance that I remember was a family that had loud
quarrels about 50 or 55 years ago, altho there was that grizzled Italian on the corner,
who murdered his son after their respective dogs fought about 40 years ago,
but that was silent; I only heard about it after the fact.

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Well, I am not about to answer for farmer, David. But if you actually thought about it for a bit (assuming you know something of the 2006 killings) the answers to your questions might be rather obvious.

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@msolga,

You know what I'd be really interested in, David? I'd love to hear a bit about you, your neighbourhood & your neighbours. Seriously.

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Across the street from me,
there is a lady named Diana, who works for the NYC Medical Examiner 's Office. Nice lady.

For several years, I was acquainted, both in a NYC libertarian group called the Junto
and in Mensa with a NYC Police Detective Lieutenant named John Perry, who was also a lawyer.
For about 3 years, he was mentioning to his friends that he 'd soon retire and practice law.
On the morning of 9/11/1, he was turning in his retirement papers
to a captain, when there was an attack upon the World Trade Center.
He and his captain sought to rescue victims from the dark inside the WTC,
to lead them out. I was informed that after having done so,
the captain ordered Lt. Perry not to re-enter the building,
but insubordinately, he persisted in rescuing victims inside.
The penalty for that is death.
While so engaged, the building collapsed upon him.

My neighbor told me that, in the line of duty, she was together
with her colleagues near the WTC while it burned. She told me
that the violence of its collapse was such as to break the arm
of her boss, with whom she was in conversation at that moment.

I knew from the newspapers that the remains of Lt. Perry were
uncovered and removed the following April. Diana told me that
she performed the autopsy on John Perry. She was surprized that I knew him.

David

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

Well, I am not about to answer for farmer, David. But if you actually thought about it for a bit
(assuming you know something of the 2006 killings) the answers to your questions might be rather obvious.

I don 't remember the event with specific clarity.
All I remember is that some nut shot up an Amish schoolhouse.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Thank you.

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I knew from the newspapers that the remains of Lt. Perry were
uncovered and removed the following April. Diana told me that
she performed the autopsy on John Perry. She was surprized that I knew him.

That was a terrible situation for Diana to find herself in.
And you lost a brave member of your neighbourhood you cared about. My commiserations to you, David.

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@OmSigDAVID,

It was a hostage situation, resulting in the killing of children in an Amish schoolhouse, David. Farmer may talk about it more if he chooses to.

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

Thank you.

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I knew from the newspapers that the remains of Lt. Perry were
uncovered and removed the following April. Diana told me that
she performed the autopsy on John Perry. She was surprized that I knew him.

That was a terrible situation for Diana to find herself in.
And you lost a brave member of your neighbourhood you cared about. My commiserations to you, David.

Thank u. Tomorrow nite, I will dine with
some of the members of the Opulent Mensan SIG, including Vivian,
who has informed us that on the morning of 9/11/1,
she was walking, approaching the World Trade Center to enter it,
when the first plane hit.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

I hope you enjoy the dinner & the gathering, David.
9/11 has obviously had a big impact on you.

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I notice that you mention your Mensan group quite a bit in your posts. It's obviously a very important part of your life & on how you spend your time. Are most of your personal friends in this group?

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

It was a hostage situation, resulting in the killing of children in an Amish schoolhouse, David.

I may be rong, but I am vaguely under the impression that the perpetrator did not survive the crimes.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

That's my understanding, too, David. But I may be wrong on that.

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

I hope you enjoy the dinner & the gathering, David.
9/11 has obviously had a big impact on you.
[Other New Yorkers had it a lot worse than I did.
I had a girlfriend out on Long Island around 50 miles away
from the World Trade Center and she was rather shaken up emotionally.]

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I notice that you mention your Mensan group quite a bit in your posts.
It's obviously a very important part of your life &
on how you spend your time. Are most of your personal friends in this group?

Probably. I 've been in it a while. Thay call me a lot because I 'm a SIG leader.
30 years ago, I was on the Board of Directors.
Thay want me to set up events, like going to Atlantic City and/or to Las Vegas
and/or to New Orleans and/or to Orlando and explore relevant history and restaurants.
Mensa is very versatile because it includes a lot of SIGs,
and any member can begin a new one
at will, so long as it is within the law.
Within a given SIG, multifarious activities can operate,
e.g., we don 't just eat in my group; we travel and eat,
attend many conventions and eat, go to gunnery ranges and eat,
attend movies and plays and eat, ascend into the celestial vault
in hot air balloons that I charter and eat, go SCUBA diving and eat,
explore subterrainean caverns and eat, explore Fermilab near Chicago and eat,
attend planetaria and aquaria and eat, enjoy lavish spas and eat.
There r a lot of other things.

There r some other groups, e.g., the Junto libertarian group.
I don 't believe that u want me to post about my gun rights groups friends.
Some of the groups overlap, as in the case of John Perry. There r also my friends in www.IANDS.org

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@OmSigDAVID,

Wow, that a lot of meeting & eating! Worse things could happen! Smile

Pardon my ignorance, David, but I
m not sure what "SIG" means.

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

That's my understanding, too, David. But I may be wrong on that.

In that circumstance, I am at a loss to understand upon whom retribution coud be inflicted.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Well, in some communities, particularly when political/religious motivated killings are involved (& this wasn't one of those situations), it can lead to ongoing conflict & antipathy between the two sides. As witness for years in Ireland.

In the actual situation we've been talking about, a more aggressive & less forgiving community than the Amish might well have sought revenge for the killing of innocent children.

That is how I'd explain it, as best I can. Farmer might explain it differently.

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

Wow, that a lot of meeting & eating! Worse things could happen!

I try to put my group in good places.
My SIG is a hedonism SIG.
When I began the Opulent Mensan SIG (originally a chapter of the Rich Mensan SIG),
I just published the name and address of the place
of our activity; then the President of Mensa advised me
to use sensual adjectives in my ad. I did.
This had an effect upon the demografic of my SIG,
who came to call themselves (informally) "David's harem".

msolga wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, David, but I m
not sure what "SIG" means.

"SIG" means Special Interest Group.

We publish in the Mensa social calendar activities for extant SIGs.
The SIG leader brings life to his group by thinking up interesting & fun things
for it to do in keeping with the dedicated purpose of that group.
Some ladies ( we call them FM s ) set up dancing SIGs.
Someone can set up a stamp collecting SIG; someone else a debating SIG,
a Spanish SIG, a French SIG, a skydiving SIG; "the limits are those of the imagination" as Rod Serling 'd say.
There can be a SIG to do anything of interest.
Thay r all 100% libertarian: after its activity has been published,
any member who reads it & chooses to do so can call up and make a reservation,
or, in some circumstances, just attend.
Any given SIG will survive so long as it commands sufficient popularity.

Mensa usually has a monthy meeting for everyone.

It has maybe around 25 conventions around the nation,
called "Regional Gatherings" and an Annual Gathering somewhere in America.
We have occasional symposia, e.g. we had one in Albany on Cosmology a few years ago,
attended from around the world; fully sold out: standing room only.

We had another symposium on the psychology of humor and laughter.

David

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