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Could the gov/cia have caused this earthquake/tsunami?

 
 
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 07:11 am
chris56789 wrote:
panzade wrote:


Rafick isn't nuts. I agree with him.


Well, no wonder!
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 08:24 am
chris56789- How do you explain this?

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At 9PM on January 26, 1700 one of the world's largest earthquakes occurred along the west coast of North America. The undersea Cascadia thrust fault ruptured along a 1000 km length, from mid Vancouver Island to northern California in a great earthquake, producing tremendous shaking and a huge tsunami that swept across the Pacific. The Cascadia fault is the boundary between two of the Earth's tectonic plates: the smaller offshore Juan de Fuca plate that is sliding under the much larger North American plate.

The earthquake shaking collapsed houses of the Cowichan people on Vancouver Island and caused numerous landslides. The shaking was so violent that people could not stand and so prolonged that it made them sick. On the west coast of Vancouver Island, the tsunami completely destroyed the winter village of the Pachena Bay people with no survivors. These events are recorded in the oral traditions of the First Nations people on Vancouver Island. The tsunami swept across the Pacific also causing destruction along the Pacific coast of Japan. It is the accurate descriptions of the tsunami and the accurate time keeping by the Japanese that allows us to confidently know the size and exact time of this great earthquake.

The earthquake also left unmistakeable signatures in the geological record as the outer coastal regions subsided and drowned coastal marshlands and forests that were subsequently covered with younger sediments. The recognition of definitive signatures in the geological record tells us the January 26, 1700 event was not a unique event, but has repeated many times at irregular intervals of hundreds of years. Geological evidence indicates that 13 great earthquakes have occurred in the last 6000 years.


http://www.pgc.nrcan.gc.ca/seismo/hist/anniv.press.htm

No H.A.A.R.P., no military industrial complex. Just Mother Nature "doing her thing"!
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 08:39 am
And going back a bit further:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/minoan_01.shtml
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panzade
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 10:04 am
chris56789 wrote:
panzade wrote:


Rafick isn't nuts. I agree with him.


I didn't say he was nuts...why did you jump to that conclusion?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 10:10 am
At another site I go to occasionally, the word is that the earthquake/tsunami was caused by the Australian government and the oil drilling industry.

I think it might be easier for some people to believe that these things are caused by someone/something and are thus preventable. It's a lot easier to think that way than to admit that life's just a big crapshoot.

Life isn't fair. That is a difficult thing to accept.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 10:32 am
The amount of reaally big worldwide earthquaakes has remained fairly constant for the length of record that the USGS keeps.
itts about 1 a year, some years had 3 some years none.

Remember abuzz's chaiyah and her earthquake theories, shed at least try to predict some. Of coursse she was never right but , the important thing, she believed her own stuff completely and never ever looked at evidence counter to hers. We would argue with her and , of course, there never were any winners until her day of predicted disaster just came and went.
Then , no comment.

I guess I have no point here other than ,you sshould make sure youre rght before you post like chaiyah.It will affect your futture credibility
If I were trying to convince Chris, Id do what Phoenix did and provide links to some of the the great earthquakes of the early last 300 years century,TZienzhen, Turkey, Georgia SSR, South Carolina, Boston, Reelfoot Lake, alaska, Kobe,mexico Citty.

owever I hear a black helicopter comin g and I must hide
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 10:38 am
I think Phoenix, ehBeth, MA and whoever else said this is so right.

People who can't deal with the random horrors visited upon us are compelled to assign some blame to whoever stuff happens to. That way, they can (insanely) rationalize why it won't happen to them.

I know people very close to me who do this.

They don't get it out of the Bible, but they'll 'blame it on God', so to speak. "God won't let these people do this for long without 'teaching them a lesson'--or 'bringing them close to Him.'

Yet, how do they explain it when their beloved spouse or parent's die?

Its not just religious people who do this--and not ALL religious people do.

Siply as ehBeth put it-- Life isn't fair. There's no template we can follow, no rules that will keep us safe. I guess some people just can't accept that.
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Aside-- Has anyone become a little concerned about what such an incredibly powerful earthquake and tsunami mean in terms of the earth's behavior? Has anyone read scientific explanations, yet, regarding whether the earth's crust or the plates reveal any possible future, similar shifts--or was this an anomoly?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 11:06 am
Usually when a big quake occurs, especially a vertical drop like this one, the strain release lets earth give off a huge sigh of relief, like a crick in the neck.

in this area , theres a subduction zone and a spreading center located really close to each other. The probable consequence is that millions of years from now a linear mountain range may emerge as the subduction zone is compressed,
The enrgy and displacement has resulted in a minor addition to the Chandler wobble which will dissipate in a few tousand years and the day length has been affected by a millisecond or so.

Ivee heard that, the undersea depths have been9I believe) affected by about 50 feet . I assume its dropped by thhat much
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 05:55 pm
Wow, farmerman. Thank you. I guess I'll have to drag out an encyclopedia and look up subduction and Chandler wobble.

Thanks!
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 06:17 pm
squinney wrote:
Unfortunately, I think this was real:

http://www.rawprint.com/rawstory/images/westboro_tsunami_1230.gif

It was linked to from Buzzflash, and is discussed here: http://rawstory.rawprint.com/1204/westboro_tsunami_statement_1230.php


Squinney, are you familiar with the Westboro Baptist Church? They are situated in Topeka, Kansas, and their leader is none other than Fred Phelps, the infamous homophobic activist. He and his sheep are well-known for picketing the funerals of dead people who happened to be gay (including Matthew Shepard's) holding signs that say, inter alia, "No Fags in Heaven" and "God Hates Fags" (see their web site address) and other similar messages. They don't need a good excuse to picket something, claiming homosexuality is involved, and it comes as no surprise to see this image you posted ... they celebrate the deaths of thousands of people because they "might" be gay. If there is anyone who deserves contempt, it is Fred Phelps and those who follow his beliefs. That is just my opinion.

Here's a link for more info if you're interested:
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/default.asp
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 06:47 pm
farmerman wrote:
Remember abuzz's chaiyah and her earthquake theories, shed at least try to predict some. Of coursse she was never right but , the important thing, she believed her own stuff completely and never ever looked at evidence counter to hers.


She was in here briefly, a while back. I always looked forward to her updates on chemtrails. I didn't even have to go look at www.rense.com as long as she kept me up-to-date.

I miss her almost as much as I miss Lee Harvey McVeigh.

Two of my favorite Abuzzards; they just had their tinfoil hats welded on a bit too tight.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 08:33 pm
She's probably been hospitalized over the earthquake/tsunami.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 11:01 pm
Sounds like some one has been listening to too much coast-to-coast...
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2005 11:23 pm
whenever im up late writing reports , I love coast to coast. Its got people with more wacked out beliefs tthan Saturday morning cartoons.
I love when the host gets a call from an obviously disturbed individual and hhe deftly handles the call. No put downs but quick shovel offs.

I love the ufo guys.
I forgot about the tinfoil hat thing. I recall giving jes a ost of **** because I thhought it was a demeaning practice, boy did I see what they meant by abuzzers who needed them.
Another guy i miss is Dominic John. e was full of conspiracies and , to accompany that, he was just pissed off at everybody.
He was like a setanta without the intelligence , humor , or charm.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2005 12:24 am
I am the walking mistrustful a2k person, but I think chris is grabbing in air.
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2005 12:32 am
you guys are making me LOL
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chris56789
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2005 03:17 am
panzade wrote:
chris56789 wrote:
panzade wrote:


Rafick isn't nuts. I agree with him.


I didn't say he was nuts...why did you jump to that conclusion?

I never said you think he's nuts, it was just something I said just in case others thought he was nuts.
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chris56789
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2005 03:20 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
chris56789- How do you explain this?

Quote:
At 9PM on January 26, 1700 one of the world's largest earthquakes occurred along the west coast of North America. The undersea Cascadia thrust fault ruptured along a 1000 km length, from mid Vancouver Island to northern California in a great earthquake, producing tremendous shaking and a huge tsunami that swept across the Pacific. The Cascadia fault is the boundary between two of the Earth's tectonic plates: the smaller offshore Juan de Fuca plate that is sliding under the much larger North American plate.

The earthquake shaking collapsed houses of the Cowichan people on Vancouver Island and caused numerous landslides. The shaking was so violent that people could not stand and so prolonged that it made them sick. On the west coast of Vancouver Island, the tsunami completely destroyed the winter village of the Pachena Bay people with no survivors. These events are recorded in the oral traditions of the First Nations people on Vancouver Island. The tsunami swept across the Pacific also causing destruction along the Pacific coast of Japan. It is the accurate descriptions of the tsunami and the accurate time keeping by the Japanese that allows us to confidently know the size and exact time of this great earthquake.

The earthquake also left unmistakeable signatures in the geological record as the outer coastal regions subsided and drowned coastal marshlands and forests that were subsequently covered with younger sediments. The recognition of definitive signatures in the geological record tells us the January 26, 1700 event was not a unique event, but has repeated many times at irregular intervals of hundreds of years. Geological evidence indicates that 13 great earthquakes have occurred in the last 6000 years.


http://www.pgc.nrcan.gc.ca/seismo/hist/anniv.press.htm

No H.A.A.R.P., no military industrial complex. Just Mother Nature "doing her thing"!


Yes, you are right. Mother nature has given us major disasters in our history, but the point I'm trying to make is that in the last 4 years, it's been happening more often at such a devastating rate compared to our past disasters in our history, that it seems really odd, especially now with the gov almost fully complete with HAARP.
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chris56789
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2005 08:15 pm
Also one more thing....

if your ancestors was riding horses across the plains of the old west, and someone came up to them and said, "Their wil be tv sets that can transmit images and sound through the air and cables into homes all over the world, and computers that can send info in seconds from one country to another, and instead of pistols, we'd have missiles that can travel thousands of miles, and a bomb called 'Atom' and 'nuclear' that could wipe out masses of people," they would have called that person crazy.

Our ancestors could never imagine the world we live in today. Are you making the same mistake as they did today in underestimating what lies in store for us tomorrow?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2005 08:30 pm
Quote:
Mother nature has given us major disasters in our history, but the point I'm trying to make is that in the last 4 years, it's been happening more often at such a devastating rate compared to our past disasters in our history, that it seems really odd, especially now with the gov almost fully complete with HAARP.


Big difference. We can blame it all on the internet. In years gone by, it would take a long time for people in other parts of the world to even KNOW that a natural disaster occurred. Nowadays, we learn of these tragedies now, in the twinkling of an eye, in living color.
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