Am I generalizing? Yes.
No everything isn't a black/white issue. I'm not suggesting it is. But, when I hear the righteously indignant outrage about who should be denouncing a statement or event, to my experience, its usually been white people.
"We're comfortable in our skin?" Have "we" been elected spokesperson for "our" race?
Snood
We're comfortable in our skin?" Have "we" been elected spokesperson for "our" race?
Do you have any doubt? I can say that without the slightest chance of contradiction.
Tex-star,
No I'm not muslim. I just have a sensitivity for B.S.
Which is what I categorize calling for all muslims to denounce the madmen among them.
I've heard the same kind of "demands for a statement" after Jesse Jacksn or Al Sharpton has said something white people think egregious. I can never figure out why they need ME (or some black "leader") to tell them that what they heard was something bad.
Actually, the American muslims have already made their statements denouncing terrorist acts. Right after 9/11.
Anything said now would more than likely scare them half to death, bring them before the media.
If I were a black person I would not feel compelled to join in the castigating of people like Sharpton and Jackson.
Since I AM part Native American, I would not join in any denouncement of one of them no matter what they did. But, maybe I wouldn't defend them either. That is just the way it is -
Tex-Star
I'll castigate Native Americans a bit. I've watched them build casinos all over the country, often without regard for state licensing, and not paying state or federal taxes. How do they get away with it? They use the huge profits to pay off officials, plain and simple. And every so often they'll drop by the local elementary shool with a check for a cool million. Seen it done.
They also live above the law when it comes to natural resources. Just last fall I watched a native snag a king salmon as it tried to make its way over dam. Any idiot could snag one in the side or tail, but all of the non-natives have to hook them in the mouth. He was tossing fish over his shoulder as fast as he could go, with the conservation officer sitting right there in his truck looking at him.
Sorry, but something's wrong with that picture, IMO.
New Haven, I don't know but at one time the Native Americans weren't protected, included in the law. But, now, whatever is the law and as long as it lasts, that is their right. That's the way it is.
Tex-Star
cjhsa, my apologies. Just glanced at the avatar, I guess.
I don't live around any casinos, I don't fish, so can't really relate with what you're saying. Maybe it's a different matter. Seems anything anyone does crushes someone else's toes. People before us didn't clean up after themselves so now we make the amends by giving the Native Americans some means to make a living.
Re: Silence from the Muslim American Community
au1929 wrote:By this time we have all heard or read about the Bin Laden tapes. So than, I suppose, have the Arab or Muslim Americans. Where than is their voice. Why hasn't it been heard? Could it be that they side with Bin Ladens call for terrorism and a holy war against America and the West. If not IMO they should vocalize it and show there support for the US.
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most Muslims secretly despise America but dont have the guts to voice that opinion because they know a mob would be waiting for them outside.
frolic wrote:The reason you don't hear them is because nobody is giving them the opportunity to talk to the audience.
On a similar note; I'm trying! (Check my signature line)
Re: Silence from the Muslim American Community
If the muslum Americans even think about speaking, for or against they are branded terrorists. They have all effectively been silenced by the Bush Administration. They've done everything short of internment camps to those people.
Re: Silence from the Muslim American Community
BWShooter wrote:
most Muslims secretly despise America but dont have the guts to voice that opinion because they know a mob would be waiting for them outside.
Your comment is telling on so many different levels. Not only because it displays an extreme ignorance of not only Islam, but also because it demonstates how little difference ther is between your opinion and that of those who would perpetuate violence in any community.
Re: Silence from the Muslim American Community
hobitbob wrote:BWShooter wrote:
most Muslims secretly despise America but dont have the guts to voice that opinion because they know a mob would be waiting for them outside.
Your comment is telling on so many different levels. Not only because it displays an extreme ignorance of not only Islam, but also because it demonstates how little difference ther is between your opinion and that of those who would perpetuate violence in any community.
wrong, once a person takes their religion to the extreme, it becomes everyones problem. I suppose you condone people flying planes into buildings. Get a clue.
I have no doubt that most Moslem Americans are law abiding citizens. My question is if they are aware of terrorists or terrorist supporters with in their midst will they report them. Does their allegiance and loyalty to the fellow religionists take precedence over their loyalty to their adopted nation?
Re: Silence from the Muslim American Community
BWShooter wrote:hobitbob wrote:BWShooter wrote:
most Muslims secretly despise America but dont have the guts to voice that opinion because they know a mob would be waiting for them outside.
Your comment is telling on so many different levels. Not only because it displays an extreme ignorance of not only Islam, but also because it demonstates how little difference ther is between your opinion and that of those who would perpetuate violence in any community.
wrong, once a person takes their religion to the extreme, it becomes everyones problem. I suppose you condone people flying planes into buildings. Get a clue.
Actually, your comments on this and other threads would make me think that you would indeed condone such acts. Perhaps looking in a mirror might be a good idea.
au1929 wrote:I have no doubt that most Moslem Americans are law abiding citizens. My question is if they are aware of terrorists or terrorist supporters with in their midst will they report them. Does their allegiance and loyalty to the fellow religionists take precedence over their loyalty to their adopted nation?
Mustafa Malik has a wonderful article on the conept of the [i[Umma[/i] in modern Islam in the current "Middle East Policy." It addresses this , and other questions regarding "assimilation" that you so frequently return to.
Re: Silence from the Muslim American Community
hobitbob wrote:
Actually, your comments on this and other threads would make me think that you would indeed condone such acts. Perhaps looking in a mirror might be a good idea.
no, I dont condone violence against any religious group so you are wrong yet again. Perhaps you should open your eyes to whats going on in the world instead of living in a dreamland. You seem to think the Muslims did nothing to deserve whats going on now. THEY declared a holy war and want to see America destroyed.
