Dear Brian, we meet again, and it was only some days back that we were talking about the existence of virtual particles, you say that for you they are real because your concept of real is that anything even just in your mind that you can arrive at in your mind to a logical explanation, that is real.
I on the other hand, I hold to man's experience of the world outside and independent of his mind, so that what is real is whether man can and dose experience the thing in question to be outside and independent of his mind.
However, I tried to bring you to concur with me that with ideas in your mind which you can manipulate as to come to their logical explanation, then as I told you, you should go out into the world outside your mind to look for the objects corresponding to the ideas in your mind, that is No. 1 meaning for what is real even though it started as a contraption in your mind.
No. 2 consists in the invention by you or by mankind of the thing in your mind, if and when you succeed in its invention.
In both instances, with No. 1 or No. 2 or both of them, when you have succeeded in both undertakings, then they are real objects, and not only real in your mind.
And I gave you the example of the centaur,* it is a product of man's imagination in his mind, but to date man has not succeeded to find nor to bring about a biological entity that corresponds to the idea in man's imaginative mind, namely, a biological being that is half man from middle torso to the head, and half horse below the middle torso.
Now, dear Brian, I like to talk with you, on this proposition from me:
"The default status of things in the totality of reality is existence."
What is your comment to the statement, in re whether it represents reality or virtual reality or non-reality.
There, I will now sit back and await with bated breath for you to react to my thought above, namely, "The default status of things in the totality of reality is existence."
Or you can also ask me, with presenting something from you, and asking me whether it is an example of reality, or virtual reality, or non-reality.
*Was it with you or with another poster, and was it in the thread on Who is your favorite physicist - can't be sure now.