Lash
 
Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 09:09 am
SPOILERS GALORE

SO DON'T LOOK IF YOU AREN'T CURRENT



Viewers (like me) were spoiled by the incredibly dramatic unfolding of massive storylines during the final two episodes last season. What were we really legitimately expecting to see Sunday night?

Ships sailed, basically.

I did appreciate the cold open. My daughter in law and I looked at each other a couple of lines into Walter Frey's address and whispered, "Arya." Revenge is always a winner.

The Hound is softening around the edges, as is the handsome Kingslayer. Meanwhile, I'm concerned about a split between Sansa and Jon. Sansa seems to appreciate what she learned from Cersei, Joffrey, and Ramsey a bit more than her dad, her interrupted brother king, and Jon - soft, honorable and mostly dead.

I just don't like the Euron Greyjoy guy. Actor or character- I'm not sure. He looked out of place and SEEMED out of place, but hah! has no worries of being the most vilified actor thanks to Ed Sheeran.

Ed is definitely taking it on the chin for his distracting cameo. Seeing him in that scene really took me (and a lot of other fans) out of the episode. I felt a little abused. Seemed like really gratuitous product placement.

"So, I see that dragon mother bitch has sunk my fleet. Thank goodness I have this refreshing Pepsi to cool my anger." --Cersei Lannister

Most fans who discuss online say this slow start was inevitable. Characters have to get in place. Most I hear pan the premiere, but I think we've been spoiled. I do hope big, goofy cameos will cease.

Looking forward to machinations from the major characters.

Wondering if Euron is headed for Tyrian's head.
 
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 09:31 am
@Lash,
I enjoyed the episode. I didn't have any problem with any of it (except for Euron Greyjoy). It held my interest and set up the season nicely.

As one other reviewer said... when Arya riding alone meets up with a group of well armed soldiers, you are frightened for the lives of the soldiers. "I am going to kill the Queen!"..... "hahahaha". That scene worked for me.

Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 10:27 am
@maxdancona,
I did get a grin at that line.
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 10:50 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I did get a grin at that line.

Actually, I had to check myself for preconceived ideas.

Since Cersei and Arya are such pivotal characters, I subconsciously doubted either would die this season. I imagined some weird, time-sucking event would sideline Arya's ability to assassinate Cersei. But, maybe it is Cersei's time. (Or Arya's)

The seven kingdoms are practically united in their hatred of Cersei, so her future doesn't seem too cool--and think about the huge geoshift, the powerful alliances can form in her...*ahem* absence. Jaime, nay Tyrian could ascend the Iron Throne.

I haven't read the books, and I've been told by those who have that basic plot elements in the series diverged from the novels quite a while ago.

Makes watching much more fun, I think. Mystery.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 10:53 am
@Lash,
I think Arya gets sidetracked by family. There is a Stark family reunion coming, I think sooner rather than later. I don't think Arya makes it to King's Landing this season. Seeing Arya and Sansa reunited after their lives have been so different is going to be a key moment of the series.

I don't think Cersei isn't going to live much longer. Sansa saying "I learned so much from her" was a bitterly good line.

Sam's life sure sucks right now.

George
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 11:38 am
I guess it helps to be so unhip you wouldn't recognize Ed Sheeran if you fell
over him.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 12:58 pm
@George,
Thomas Turgoose jumped out at me..

Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 03:00 pm
@George,
That saved a lot of people!

I feel really badly for Ed. He got some grief on Twitter and closed his account.

I'm sure he'll recover.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 03:02 pm
@izzythepush,
I think most Americans missed that guy, but he was mentioned in the articles I read.
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2017 03:06 pm
@maxdancona,
I've watched Ramsey's gruesome torture of Reek, and myriad other gory scenes, but all three of the adults watching covered eyes and groaned during Samwell Tarley's occupational scenes.

🍜 💩 🍜 💩 🍜 💩...ad nauseum.

Literally.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2017 01:41 am
@Lash,
What about Jim Broadbent, the grand maester?

He's been in loads, from Only Fools And Horses
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3463681268/2c1cde457e6bb0defefed33485d58939_400x400.jpeg
Harry Potter,

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/wp-content/uploads/assets/Jim-Broadbent-Harry-Potter.jpg
Blackadder,

https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/blackadder/images/b/bd/Don_Speekingleesh.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120830154547

and films like Moulin Rouge
http://theredlist.com/media/database/films/cinema/2000/moulin-rouge/026-moulin-rouge-theredlist.jpg

and serious drama like Iris.

http://www.ifi.ie/wp-content/uploads/le-weekenddirected-by-roger-michellstarring-lindsay-duncan-and-jim-broadbent4.jpg

Although for me he will always be half of the National Theatre Of Brent.

Lash
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2017 04:59 am
@izzythepush,
My daughter in law squealed when he appeared on screen. She's a great fan of British TV - big Dr. Who fan - and was dazzled that he may have a recurring role.

I'd known him from a few roles when he was younger, but due to his age (or aged appearance), couldn't quite place him.


izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2017 05:41 am
@Lash,
He's very versatile, easily at home in comedy and drama. The National Theatre Of Brent is where he made his name. It's just two people, yet they only do epic productions, like Ben Hur and the French Revolution, it's very funny.

The Grand Maester doesn't seem a million miles away from the role he played in Harry Potter.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2017 04:27 am
Both Tony Way, (Dontos Hollard,)

 http://www.media4.hw-static.com/wp-content/uploads/game-of-thrones-doctor-who-tony-way-hbo-bbc-08282015.jpg
and Paul Kaye, (Thoros of Myr,)

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/01/07/09/paul-kaye-got.jpg
star in Dave's fantasy comedy Zapped.

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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2017 05:10 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I haven't read the books, and I've been told by those who have that basic plot elements in the series diverged from the novels quite a while ago.


No, the basic plot lines have held up, a lot of the chaff has been weeded out and there are a few characters that have not been introduced in the TV show, rightly so in my opinion.

The first three books were incredible, but the remainder have been meh. I do look forward to seeing where it all ends though.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2017 07:49 am
Yippee! Another installment tonight. My birds tell me Littlefinger may be in a pinch.

(I don't know what it is about him, but he's a little appealing...)😏
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2017 08:58 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

I think Arya gets sidetracked by family. There is a Stark family reunion coming, I think sooner rather than later.

Good call.

As to Euron: I think the fact that his swagger and Hot Topic clothes came before his character's opportunity to prove he could back up his tough talk turned me off.

He also evened the odds a bit with his destruction of Yara's fleet and Dorn leadership. I never liked the Dornish, and I felt the antiseptic war against Cersei was shaping up to be too calculated to be believable.

I am more approving of the Euron character.

I think Lady Tyrell was correct in her tougher talk to Danerys. I think the time for antiseptic war plans is over. They wasted an awesome fleet. Wonder if Tyrian's job is secure after that major miscalculation...

Loved the scene with Arya and her wolf.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2017 09:08 am
Sam's scene transitions continue to be the most disgusting...

I'm purring like a cat, anticipating corn cob Tarley being set up for the realization that his book-reading son may save the world.

⚔️📚
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2017 09:18 am
Uh oh. I was feeling a bit like this guy.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/jul/24/when-good-tv-goes-bad-game-of-thrones?CMP=fb_us
-----------------------------------------

I'm not quite this far gone; I'm pretty sure I'll stay with the series until the end, but the quality of the story seems to have taken a back seat to something else.

Can't quite put my finger on it.


maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2017 09:58 am
@Lash,
I disagree with that guy. Game of Thrones has always been trash TV. It is overdramatized, titillating and emotionally manipulative and I never had any illusions that it was anything else. In fact, that is why we watch it.

It is, however, thoroughly enjoyable trash... and I am still enjoying every episode.


 

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