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Neil Young, we don't want you here!

 
 
Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 09:43 pm
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Steppenwolf
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 09:52 pm
The "right to to public education," which would have been substituted for the segregation language, has fueled some litigation in the recent past re: adequate funding and the like. As I understand it, this was the core message of the opposition to the amendment. Unfortunately, the inadequate funding issue principally concerns minority schools. This failed amendment is a blow to black Alabamans no matter how you slice it.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 09:57 pm
well yeah wolf from the steppes, we don't need no friggin' civil rights stuff in our backyard. Send them ****lover liberals back to Boston where they belong.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 09:58 pm
What segregation era language did it seek to remove?
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Steppenwolf
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:05 pm
Quote:
separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race.


source

'tis a shame.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:07 pm
So, the vote was to remove the above quote (thanks Steppenwolf) and the population voted to keep it?
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Steppenwolf
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:10 pm
I think that the vote was to remove that language and replace it with something regarding the right to public education. That's what I gather from a Wash. Post article, although I can't find the specific language that would be inserted.

Yes, and the population voted against this.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:11 pm
right littlek but the vote was by a margin of less than .05% requiring a recount.
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Steppenwolf
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:13 pm
Oh, I didn't know that bit about .05%. So close...
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:13 pm
That's mindboggling. Could it be possible that the question was posed in such a way as to be confusing or misleading?
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Steppenwolf
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:17 pm
I think the advertising campaign surrounding it was a little confusing and misleading. The "increased taxes" bit may have clinched the deal. I refuse to believe that over 50% of the voters would vote on purely racist grounds -- perhaps that's optimism, but it seems unlikely that racism would win the day.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:18 pm
Boy, is Alabama ever going to be broke up when the hear about "Brown vs Topeka Board of Education", circa 1954
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Steppenwolf
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:19 pm
Lol. Indeed.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:19 pm
well, as I read it, the opponents of the amendment offered that it would raise taxes and was not needed rather than a question of vague or misleading language.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:22 pm
I have to admit, I am baffled by the fact that there actually was oppostion. This says reams about the southern red states that I don't think the repubs want to deal with. It's a very poor image to present to the rest of america.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:34 pm
Well, maybe we're all being a little optomistic. But, I hope we're right to think that this would have been defeated given fair representation.
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Steppenwolf
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:36 pm
I agree, littlek.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 29 Nov, 2004 10:37 pm
Unfortunately for Alabamians, this paints them as either racist or dumb.
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 30 Nov, 2004 09:30 am
Ok, I am going to stick my neck out and ask, what does Neil Young have to do with it? Does he sing hippie songs and somehow that relates to the issue?

All in all, it is a shame either way it goes. If the reason that the voted not to remove the awful law there was because of taxes then they should have done it separately or something rather than leaving the impression of approval of racism for the blacks in Alabama.
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George
 
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Reply Tue 30 Nov, 2004 09:48 am
I believe Dys is referring to lyrics of "Sweet Home Alabama":

Well, I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard old Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around anyhow


This in turn was a reference to the song "Alabama" by Neil Young:

Oh Alabama
The devil fools with the best laid plan.
Swing low Alabama
You got spare change
You got to feel strange
And now the moment is all that it meant.

Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back.
Your Cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh Alabama
Banjos playing through the broken glass
Windows down in Alabama.
See the old folks tied in white ropes
Hear the banjo.
Don't it take you down home?

Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back.
Your Cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh Alabama.
Can I see you and shake your hand.
Make friends down in Alabama.
I'm from a new land
I come to you and see all this ruin
What are you doing Alabama?
You got the rest of the union to help you along
What's going wrong
?
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