Is debate possible between ignoramuses?How is it possible

Extremely worrying this Lola! Do you think one of those tablets they manufacture would help him? It's a noted fact you know that some men, especially under-going pressure of business loose the will to seduce a woman. I am very content with the fact that 'Percy' likes to watch me shave each morning! If ever he wanted to watch me buff my shoe's up, I would be seeking help! Women have this un-deniable attraction to watch a flacid member rise for the fourth time or more, it proves their attraction to the 'stud' is fully prevalent, it is of course.

How the hell would a woman feel if she couldn't have an erection before her! It would probably make her suicidal.

Mathos:-

How long are you going to sing this song.We have got the picture Don Juan.The longer you harp on about your member the sooner we will start to think that it's just a daydream.You should learn to carry this particular cross with a little more dignity
and to derive your wisdom from things a trifle more interesting than newspapers.VIZ will allow you a glimpse of some of the charms of Mrs Average which you are easily noticed avoiding.So would one or two operas where the driven hero ends up staked out in the desert with the buzzards chewing his liver.

you guys!

One question Spendius, What on earth do you do with it?

Construction industry...?

Cocktail mixing...?

Paint a face on it, call it Wilson and talk to it....?

Chide it for being a let down...?

Baron Mathos is baffled indeed !sa

Mathos:-

I can understand you being baffled.Your views on the sex question are obviously unchanged since you had those jejune instructions in school with the little puppet visual aids.Some of us have explored the shallows of these deep oceans and fear to venture further for quite obvious reasons.We inevitably arrive at a position where we can't go back because it is so silly and we can't go forward because it is not silly at all and most of us tremble at the prospect and have nothing but admiration for those brave and gritty volunteers who overcome such cowardly reservations.And staying in the same place is intellectually impossible.
Unless you are under 25 or only a spasmodic practitioner of these arts you are making an unconscionably foolish prat of yourself.Maybe a perusal of The Philosophy of the Boudoir would allow you to view my position with a little more understanding.Bonking,as I believe it is referred to in the tabloids,is to the REAL THING much as a plastic puffer-engine toy is to the Moscow to Vladivostok railway.
Do not try Venus in Furs.Not all threaders view the female of the species as a compliant little muppet.
The famous line of Bill Greenwell comes to mind-
"The last rasping gasp of the mantis's groom."Is that outside your experience?You should read about the priestesses of Eleusis.Or,if you like cruddling your brains,Erich Neumann's The Great Mother.
I just feel a little reduced if I allow my self respect to be dependent on the whims of ladies as yours apears to be.They take advantage.You can easily end up having to do without the consolations of philosophy and literature most practitioners of which are in agreement with myself and for the same reasons.I wouldn't expect any ladies to agree because the result is that the goldmine is played out.

Spendius:-

Women want goosing 'Dear Boy!'

Not talking to by a clown with ideas of being a trapeze artist.

No wonder you never last over a minute.

Mathos:-

What a terrible thing to suggest.They want "goosing",as you so insultingly call it,so much that they have brought voluminous amounts of pressure to bear on the legislative process to make it illegal and punishable by long periods of imprisonment.I presume you are not hinting that they like it because it enables them to be the cause of a man being locked up after being allowed to talk about being goosed for hours and hours in the witness box while dabbing their pretty cheeks with a scented,embroidered handkerchief.If you are,and I can't imagine them enjoying your first finger on a crowded bus as a positive sensual experience,you are worse than I thought and
should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

I can't imagine the fragrant Lola agreeing with you.

They will be queuing up to agree with me Spendius, if they tell the truth they will !

All of them, of course, behind lola !

Truth???What the hell is that?There's about as much truth on here as there is in a well pressed uniform with all the buttons gleaming.

Philosophers!!!!Experts!!!!Have you seen any?You are on a glide down a subjectivity gradient at the end of which is a cliff.

And when the lady is the goldmine?........................

The answer is in the question.

I gave up panhandling.Hadn't you heard.

Where's Queenie gone?

Motivations are always complex and involve painful conflicts of interest, Spendi love.

I don't know where Queenie is. She may be like me, temporarily over come with other responsibilities. Bernie's daughter is visiting and we've been busy having fun in the city. Now it's the a2k friends.

Sometimes Spendi, I think you scoff tooooo much.

Lola:-

What on earth do you mean?"Tooooo much".I am exceedingly toned down.Have you seen the state of some of these people who think they are good.
They can't be scoffed at enough.They want us all to come down to their level and if we don't they shout "wanker" and flounce off like the big girl's blouses they are.

Scoffing is a national pastime here.We can scoff without the scoffed at knowing we are scoffing.That's the best.

That's always the best, I agree.........big girl's blouses, very funny.

Lola:-

I don't agree that motivations are complex and involve painful conflicts of interest.

A sound education has the precise function of making all motivations simple and resolving potential conflicts of interest.You must be referring to people who are confused which I am not.

You wish. Oh well, look at it as you please. I know better.

Lola:-

Well give me an example and if I find it complex and causing me a painful conflict of interest I will submit to your superiority.In the realm of practical affairs I mean.

I must take my leave.See you soon I hope,

I can't give you a specific example of your intrapsychic conflicts, you'd have to tell me your thoughts for me to be able to guess about specifics. What you want to do to whom is information you would have to provide. However, I'm talking in general about the desire to have whatever we want and the conflicts this causes with our desire to get along with others since we all have social needs. One can escape awareness of these conflicts by denying desires or needs.......but whenever I encounter anyone who denies either or both, I never believe them. So it won't do any good for you to deny it to me. I'll simply think you are unaware. It's futile, Spendi. Give it up.

There was a pop psychologist who espoused the above as a lifestyle in the late 70s. There were all sorts of communal "hookups" in which everyone was certain that such base eemotions as rage and jealousy could be "intellectualized" and by drawing out the arguments in honest discussion, control them. Didnt work a damn.
Lots of F*d up 35 year old adults with euphonious names like "Sunspirit Alleanthus" who were love products of the above lifestyle.