Is debate possible between ignoramuses?How is it possible

Lola:-

You're always telling posters that you love them.I never do that do I?Actions speak louder than words.

I have a nice long post which still needs a little fine tuning.It is all about sex.If I get time in the morning when you are still snoring-do you snore Lola?-it will be waiting for you.If not another morning.It is to do with ignoramuses and debates and results.It will require serious concentration.

There's a bit of steroetyping going on here and a whole train-load of evasions.

I have a few friends on this board who I love, it's true. But the number is limited and the group is exclusive. I don't smile this smile for just anyone. (paraphrasing)

Actions are only a hint of a part of one's feeling state, just as are words and avvies. They're all subject to the interpretation of the observer. Your actions are very clear, or they seem to be. (actions always seem to be clear to the observer, but often are much less clear that they appear.) You seem to have a multitude of feelings which you express very well through nuisance in your word actions. Spendius is a complicated man.

Lola:-

Revisit my member profile.You will discover that I am not in the least complicated.A little complex maybe.I have stripped down my needs and wants to the barest minimum comensurate with the law of conservation of energy just like any self respecting microbe well evolved or not.

Now that is serious politics.The multi-national companies would all go bust if everybody followed my advice.

Microbes can be complicated too. You're living proof. Well evolved microbes aren't uncomplicated, they're just firmly packed.

Lola:-

Hello.

In order to make my threads more attractive,to keep them "up there",what we have to do is improve the quality of the presentation and the contents;we have to widen our readership by publicity,on other threads,other forums and other sites;any other sites,and,in essence,try harder.Our ethereal affair could be the talk of the town.
With all that talent at your disposal,and practice is hopeless without that,why can't you think about getting the spendius/Lola thing a mention in a NYC gossip column along with a plug for A2K.You could mention what perfume you use,whose shoes you wear,whose hats,what soap,which batteries,where you socialise,which bars or restaurants,what's the "in" drink.You can tell lies.Everybody else does who gets "up there".Politics doesn't sell.Trivia sells.We live on the surface.
And I'll build you up as an Englishman's idea of the epitome of sophistication with references to beer brands,second-hand books,betting,diet and all that stuff which people with a popular thread can promote if they want to or knock down if they are not encouraged to want to promote.We might already have sold a Dylan album or two or some books.From what I have gathered you have sold some NYC hotel space and airline tickets.We stick to class stuff and keep on top of fashions and feed it in.Remember Diana Vreeland's advice-"Don't give people what they want.Give them what they never knew they wanted.
I can find bits and pieces for you to weave in.You are the STAR.Where I live they don't have fashions.
You might say.for example,that you were shifting reality away from the world and into a torrent of sensation.
From little acorns etcetc.

That's a rough guide to how it's done.When you host your own talk show you can bang the other,more serious,stuff to your heart's content.First,get "up there".This kit is in its infancy.

I only sell things I believe to be important. When a thing is important to me, such as human rights or respect for difference, and I believe it's worth working for, or I fear if I don't work for it, bad things will happen, I feel motivated to do the best job I can to achieve it. Otherwise, I'd just as soon sit around and relax, talk to friends or do something with a pleasure motive involved.

We're all trying to influence each other. Do you disagree? And there's a built-in incentive to influencing as well as we can. Control, of course is another matter entirely.

spendius lives the neverending struggle between format and substance.

When I add a phrase like BIG SALE ON COMPUTERS, will it become hyperlinked?

Lola:-

No.I specifically made the point that you have to get to a position first from which your influence can have some effect i.e.on numbers i.e.voters.You need to be read by large numbers of people.If that is too much effort then you can't complain about those who have got there taking advantage.That's exactly what you do with your paper qualifications.
If that is not done you are open to the charge of gratuitousness when you expect to have influence without that first groundwork.
Was that not clear?

fm:-

Never ending struggles keep you fit and young.For a time I mean.
Substance without format is hopeless as is format without substance even when selling constipation remedies.

an old American CB phrase , signifying a positive response was

"SUPPOSITORY GOOD BUDDY"

Spendius,

I find effectiveness to be in direct correlation with a realistic evaluation of potential for success. I'm actually not arguing with anyone on a2k in order to change their minds. Although, I would like to change someone's mind. That would be good. Actually, I'm learning a lot about what I think and why I think it. It's a good way to stay informed.

Plus, sometimes, it's just fun to torture those I feel are trying to torture me. I'm a bit sadistic that way. It's a trait many people find endearing. I'm the youngest of five children. So I learned to be mean. I was always the one in the family who was willing to bite the hardest. So I won a lot of battles. And I developed a taste for that.

Laughing.......holding my tummy, laughing. Very good Farmerman.

will be eating my breakfast for a few minutes......back soon

fm:-

By heck fm that avvie looks savage.I wouldn't like to see that if I was being court-martialed.

Lola:-

Youngest of five eh?Now there's an interesting piece of info.And a biter too.One does have to approach such a constellation a little gingerly.

Your 2nd and 3rd sentences don't read right to me.But if you were hungry I suppose we will forgive you.What you having-ungrated raw turnips.

the ones about changing someone's mind? It's always gratifying to successfully convince another person of your point of view. But I don't require it. I can have my fun by learning and by frustrating others. It's not as good as coming to an agreement, but it's not half bad, especially when it's all you can have.

I had one soft boiled egg, two pieces of raisin, walnut bread with strawberry rhubarb jam and two glasses of V-8. Well really it's only half a glass of V-8 mixed with a half glass of lemon juice. I love sour things. To me, if it's sour, or acidic, it's delicious. I also had two cups of coffee and am about to have another. But I had to skip the raw turnups today. I wanted them grated but have no grater. It's a sad story.

What did you have for breakfast?

Lola:-

Porridge and banana.Same as everyday.

Eggs are little packets of chloresterol you know and acidic fruits play havoc with the joints.You wouldn't want stiff joints would you?

No, but my joints are pretty fine and I wouldn't want to live without my acidic pleasures either. As for the eggs, I think moderation and balance in diet is far healthier than avoiding any particular food group. I always limit the quantity rather than the food itself.

It's smoking I don't like.

Lola, I had 2 eggs freshly laid, and boiled precisely 3.5 minutes.They were served over toast points . This was washed down with a great vitamin filled , icy cold glass of strawberry YooHoo.

spendius, youve nothing to fear if youve not broken any codes of conduct.

Ive never, in the 2 yeARS ON THIS BOARD, AND 2 OVER AT ABUZZ, never , never seen anyone admit error or take a submissive position in any argument /debate. This , Ive seen , even when someone is hopelessly mired in goofy logic or silly facts. Whenever one begins falling down in their logic and facts, one usually drags out the bag of ad-hominem whoopass. Quite amusing.
Id love to be shown a thread (Im sure there are one or two) in which one of the combatants yields or becomes convinced of the superior reasoning of the other.
The best Ive read in my visits , has been some posts by our late cav. Hed always induce an opponent to his flow of reason.He never tried to beat the crap out of them, nor did he ridicule (unless the entire thread was initially based on a silly premise)

Also, Lola, you had raisin-walnut bread.