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Jake Tapper Implies Trump is a Liar After Saying There Are No Comey Tapes

 
 
Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 02:55 am
@layman,
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Trump never claimed, or even suggested, that HE had tapes. He just said Comey better hope there were none if he was planning to lie.

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revelette1
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 09:54 am
@layman,
So, since Comey didn't lie, you believe Comey about the "let Flynn go?" Trump denies he said the words.

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In a statement following Comey’s testimony, Trump’s personal lawyer, Marc Kasowitz, disputed Comey’s recollections of his conversations with the president, including their discussion of the Flynn investigation.


abc news
layman
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:34 am
@revelette1,
I don't necessarily "believe" one thing or another. There can be, and are, many reasons why people give mistaken, inaccurate testimony that has nothing to do with lying.

I didn't say that every word Comey said was "true." But just because something he said isn't true doesn't mean he is lying. It's strictly an immaterial issue in any event. There is no crime involved, and Trump had every right to say what Comey claims he said, even assuming it's true. Obviously they have different recollections of the conversation, but it's really irrelevant, either way.
snood
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:39 am
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But just because something he said isn't true doesn't mean he is lying. It's strictly an immaterial issue in any evident(sic).

Rightwing reasoning
layman
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:47 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Rightwing reasoning


Heh, that has been made clear by many legal experts, including a prominent left-wing law professor from Harvard Law School, Alan Dershowitz.

Trump has the unlimited, unreviewable power to pardon Flynn at any time. He hasn't done it, but he could. He is fully empowered, by the constitution itself, to "terminate" all investigation of Flynn in that manner, should be choose to do so.

If you want to talk about the presidential abuse in the administration of justice, you should be talking about Clinton's pardon of his billionaire "Lolita Express" buddy, Mark Rich, who owed the U.S. government hundreds of millions in back taxes before Clinton pardoned him.

Nice try, cheese-eater.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:45 am

Donald Trump Lawyer Botches NYTimes James Comey Memo Timeline | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
revelette1
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:50 am
@layman,
You would have done better to admit you were full bull crap when you said Trump implying he had tapes kept Comey honest. It was just Trump being his usual lying self. Trump bluffed and Comey out played him by releasing his memos which caused a special counsel to be appointed.
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layman
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:02 pm
@Real Music,
Hahahaha. Rachel Maddcow is just embarrassing herself. By her own admission, the NYT was reporting leaked info about this conversation BEFORE Trump's tweet. That was his point, and is accurate.
Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:20 pm
@layman,
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Hahahaha. Rachel Maddcow is just embarrassing herself. By her own admission, the NYT was reporting leaked info about this conversation BEFORE Trump's tweet. That was his point, and is accurate.
You obviously weren't paying attention while watching the Rachael Maddow video. You might want to watch it again. You obviously did not get the point. Other A2K members can watch the video for themselves.
layman
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:30 pm
@Real Music,
It's pretty obvious what happened here:

1. Comey leaked **** to the NYT about his conversations with Trump.

2. Trump challenged him.

3. To buttress his leaks, he then had his homey read verbatim from his supposedly "contemporaneous" memo. See!? What I told you was right! This PROVES it!
Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:37 pm
@layman,
Quote:
It's pretty obvious what happened here:

1. Comey leaked **** to the NYT about his conversations with Trump.

2. Trump challenged him.

3. To buttress his leaks, he then had his homey read verbatim from his supposedly "contemporaneous" memo. See!? What I told you was right! This PROVES it!

You still don't get the point. If this were a book report, I would tell you to read the book again. If you don't get the point, watching the video again will do you no good. Other A2K members can watch the Rachael Maddow video for themselves. I suspect that they will get the point, even if you do not.
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Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:39 pm
@Real Music,
I watched it. The leaked story on May 11 did not come from Comey. Only after Trump tweeted on May 12 that he had tapes did Comey release the info on May 16 via a friend.
Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:47 pm
PS: Trump lying about the tapes on Twitter to, as Trump has admitted, try to get Comey to "tell the truth", (ie, tell the story Trump's way), constitutes obstruction of justice, for it is an attempt to influence a witness' testimony.

This is not the first time Trump has publicly broken the law. Some months ago, Trump said he planned to go into Iraq to "get the oil", which is a war crime. Pence and Sec'y of Defense Mattis had to make immediate pronouncements claiming that Trump didn't really mean what he just said. So Trump openly admits to both international and Federal crimes.
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layman
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 01:00 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

The leaked story on May 11 did not come from Comey.


Hahahahaha. According to Comey, only he and Trump were present. Ya saying Trump leaked it to the NYT?

By your distorted logic, "Comey" did not "leak" his memo, either. His surrogate from Columbia did that, NOT HIM!!!
Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 01:17 pm
@layman,
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His surrogate from Columbia did that, NOT HIM!!!
That is the point. Comey's surrogate from Columbia leaked the information. Who was the surrogate's source? The source was Comey. The timeline did not begin when Comey's friend leaked the memo. The timeline began when Comey relays information to friend. Comey's friend don't have the information to leak, until after Comey relays that information to him. Comey had already shared the memo with his friend from Columbia before Donald Trump's tweet. That is when the timeline actually began. That is the point of the Rachael Maddow video.
layman
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 01:31 pm
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:

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His surrogate from Columbia did that, NOT HIM!!!
That is the point. Comey's surrogate from Columbia leaked the information. Who was the surrogate's source? The source was Comey. The timeline begin when Comey relays information to friend. Comey's friend don't have the information to leak, until after Comey relays that information to him. Comey had already shared the memo with his friend from Columbia before Donald Trump's tweet. That is when the timeline actually began.


This post is totally incohorent, and shows that YOU'RE the one who needs to re-watch the video.

A story about the convo appeared in the NYT FIRST. On the one hand, you say the NYT had NO source for that story, because Comey had no information to give. I have no doubt that the NYT just "makes up" **** when it suits them, but you can't claim Comey didn't have information to offer about his own convo.

At the same time, you also say this:

Real Music wrote:

Comey had already shared the memo with his friend from Columbia before Donald Trump's tweet.


Go figure, eh?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 03:48 pm
@Real Music,
You'd think #45 could afford a lawyer who can get simple things right. Then again, the number of lawsuits #45 has had to settle prove otherwise.
layman
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 03:56 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

You'd think #45 could afford a lawyer who can get simple things right. Then again, the number of lawsuits #45 has had to settle prove otherwise.


You'd think cheese-eaters could get simple substance right, rather than try to divert all attention to minor errors, eh? No, wait, no one would actually expect that.

The only thing this lawyer got the least bit wrong was to say that the first NYT story was "quoting" from the memo. Technically, it wasn't quoting from it at that time, it was just publishing portions of it.
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Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2017 07:34 pm
@layman,
Quote layman:
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Hahahahaha. According to Comey, only he and Trump were present. Ya saying Trump leaked it to the NYT?

On May 11, Comey told associates at the FBI about Trump's obstruction of justice, but he did this to establish that Trump did in fact say this. So it was Comey who leaked the story to the press on May 11.

Comey did tell the press on May 16 AFTER Trump tweeted about tapes.

Watch the video again, and maybe you'll grasp the difference between May 11 and May 16.
 

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