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Republicans try to get access to citizen's tax returns

 
 
Reply Sun 21 Nov, 2004 10:33 am
(November 20, 2004 -- 10:01 PM EDT)
Talking Points by Josh Marshall

Some things, like the DeLay Rule, are outrageous but not that surprising.

But what I'm about to describe is outrageous and almost literally unbelievable.

As you've probably heard, the congress is pushing through a big omnibus spending bill this weekend. And at the last minute, Republican leaders tried to slip in a provision that would give certain committee chairman and their staffers unlimited access to any American's tax return, with none of the standard privacy protections applying.

You heard that right.

They could pull anyone's tax return, read it over and do whatever they wanted with the information. Those who would have this power would be the chairs and ranking members of the senate and house appropriations committees and subcommittees and "their designees."

The key is that the privacy rights provisions, and criminal and civil penalties that go with them, don't apply for the appropriations committees.

At the last minute, Senate Democrats caught the language (keep in mind these omnibus bills can be like phone books), protested and the Republicans beat a hasty retreat. Some of it is discussed in this AP article at MSNBC, though they lamely call it a "tax-disclosure gaffe."

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6541484/

The Republicans are acting like it was all an innocent mistake. And it seems clear that there are Republican senators who didn't know anytihng about it and are pissed. But clearly this was no accident, unless provisions have started to write themselves.

More soon.

Late Update: Here is the text of the provision in question

"Hereinafter, notwithstanding any other provision of law governing the disclosure of income tax returns or return information, upon written request of the Chairman of the House or Senate Committee on Appropriations, the Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service shall allow agents designated by such Chairman access to Internal Revenue Service facilities and any tax returns or return information contained therein."

Even Later Update: Apparently the provision was placed into the bill at the request of Rep. Istook of Oklahoma. Istook is chairman of the House Appropriations Transportation Subcommittee.

I'm not sure if it's relevant to what happened here, but the Treasury Department falls under the jurisdiction of Istook's subcommittee.
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dare2think
 
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Reply Sun 21 Nov, 2004 12:42 pm
The Repubs are ruling now, they are taking us down a fascist road. Even their followers have a fascist "sheep" mentality, just listen to those on these forums.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2004 12:55 am
Will it stand? If so can anything be done to stop them through the courts? Surely this is too far even for them?
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2004 11:45 am
So, did it pass Saturday? Or, was it removed?
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2004 11:51 am
Well, good for the Dems. Goes to show that even a clock that's stopped is right twice a day.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2004 12:03 pm
last word from the repubs yesterday was that they were "looking into" who might have put that item in the bill. Now what concerns me is that, regardless of the party in control, how is it that an item can be put into a bill without anyone else seeming to know about it? I'm pretty sure the elfin folks don't get in the congress during the night and add language to proposed legislation but I could be wrong.
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2004 12:17 pm
Yea, that was the claim being passed around the tv circuit yesterday. But, they know who did it. It was Oklahoma Rep. Istook.

Here's an interesting recap of the events and how it played out by Sunday.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_11_21.php#004086
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2004 01:36 pm
Re: Republicans try to get access to citizen's tax returns
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
(November 20, 2004 -- 10:01 PM EDT)
Talking Points by Josh Marshall

Some things, like the DeLay Rule, are outrageous but not that surprising.

But what I'm about to describe is outrageous and almost literally unbelievable.

As you've probably heard, the congress is pushing through a big omnibus spending bill this weekend. And at the last minute, Republican leaders tried to slip in a provision that would give certain committee chairman and their staffers unlimited access to any American's tax return, with none of the standard privacy protections applying.

You heard that right.

They could pull anyone's tax return, read it over and do whatever they wanted with the information. Those who would have this power would be the chairs and ranking members of the senate and house appropriations committees and subcommittees and "their designees."

The key is that the privacy rights provisions, and criminal and civil penalties that go with them, don't apply for the appropriations committees.

At the last minute, Senate Democrats caught the language (keep in mind these omnibus bills can be like phone books), protested and the Republicans beat a hasty retreat. Some of it is discussed in this AP article at MSNBC, though they lamely call it a "tax-disclosure gaffe."

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6541484/

The Republicans are acting like it was all an innocent mistake. And it seems clear that there are Republican senators who didn't know anytihng about it and are pissed. But clearly this was no accident, unless provisions have started to write themselves.

More soon.

Late Update: Here is the text of the provision in question

"Hereinafter, notwithstanding any other provision of law governing the disclosure of income tax returns or return information, upon written request of the Chairman of the House or Senate Committee on Appropriations, the Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service shall allow agents designated by such Chairman access to Internal Revenue Service facilities and any tax returns or return information contained therein."

Even Later Update: Apparently the provision was placed into the bill at the request of Rep. Istook of Oklahoma. Istook is chairman of the House Appropriations Transportation Subcommittee.

I'm not sure if it's relevant to what happened here, but the Treasury Department falls under the jurisdiction of Istook's subcommittee.


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