@fresco,
fresco wrote:
Have you considered for example that mathematically a Geocentric model of the solar system is equivalent to a Heliocentric one, and that it is only by functional considerations' ( including Occams Razor) that that the second is preferred. The words 'right' and 'wrong' do not apply.
This is about the only relevant "scientific" question you've posed, Fresky, so I'll take a minute to respond to it. Everything else you've said pretty much reduces to contentless generalities design to defend the solipsism that you so fervorently subscribe to, combined with fallacious ad hominem attacks.
Yeah, I've considered your irrelevant claim, have you?
1. Ernst Mach, Einstein's early philosophical idol, said (erroneously, but with some reasonable basis), that the geocentric and heliocentric interpretations of solar motion were "equally valid." But even he, the proto-positivist, immediately added: "But the universe is only given once." Put another way, it is impossible for BOTH views to be right. The universe is not "given twice," once with a geocentric existence, and once with a heliocentric existence.
SR overlooks this, and tries to claim that, because they are supposedly "equally valid,"
each of two mutually contradictory claims about physical reality are equally "right." SR goes clean over the top with it's solipsism in this regard.
2. They are not "equally valid" to begin with. It's true that, relying on raw sense data alone, we can't confidently say that the sun doesn't "rise" in the east and "set" in the west while the earth remains motionless. But this is just why Einstein came to ridicule Mach's positivisitic insistence that ONLY sense data can be spoken of.
There is more to be considered than "raw sense data." All of our laws of physics would have to be abandoned if we were to accept that the miniscule mass of the earth caused the sun, the planets, the stars,, and all other matter in the universe to revolve around it. In light of the discoveries of modern science, such a claim in patently absurd. Both views are not "true." The correct view can only be that the earth orbits the sun, not vice versa.
With respect to motion within the confines of the solar system, the "correct" (preferred) frame of reference is NOT the earth. It is the barycenter, the "center of mass," which is not even the sun.
You make a claim about what is "mathematically" true. Even assuming you're right (physicists deny this), this just goes to demonstrate (as Einstein and many others have noted) that mathematics, standing alone, can tell us nothing whatsoever about physical reality. It's irrelevant, so why try to pretend otherwise?