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Thu 11 Nov, 2004 02:59 pm
I wanted to post this early but class ran long. All Americans (and others) please remember that today is not just a day off of work. We need to think about the men and women who fought for our country so that we have the freedoms that we take for granted every day. If someone in your family fought in any war think about that person for a minute and try to put yourself into their shoes just for a minute.
The sadest thing in the world is a military funeral, anyone that can hear (and see) a 21 gun salute and hear taps without crying can't have a heart.
the men and women of WW2 need special rememberance this year and over the next few, these people are leaving us at a fast rate and before you know it we won't have them around. All I can say is thank God that I live in America, and God bless our troops now, in the past and in the future!
I don't have a day off of work. Who gets a day off work? I demand an application.
Ok a day off for some not you or me.
Ok, in all seriousness...
Yeah Veterans!
On Veterans day, I always reflect on a story my grandfather told me about getting shot at during WWII.
He said he and a buddy were in a foxhole sharing a cig when the bullets started flying... he was so damn scared he dropped his cigarrete out of his mouth and it took him two whole minutes to realize his pants were on fire, at which point he jumped up out of the foxhole and began rolling around in the snow to put his pants out, praying he wouldn't get shot, and rolled back into the manhole with a big burnt patch on the leg and ass of his pants.
His company commander saw him the next day and said 'hell of a fart, eh, son?'
God bless our veterans, and veterans everywhere.
Cycloptichorn
Nice to see we've got a few threads remembering our vets here.
Cycloptichorn wrote:On Veterans day, I always reflect on a story my grandfather told me about getting shot at during WWII.
He said he and a buddy were in a foxhole sharing a cig when the bullets started flying... he was so damn scared he dropped his cigarrete out of his mouth and it took him two whole minutes to realize his pants were on fire, at which point he jumped up out of the foxhole and began rolling around in the snow to put his pants out, praying he wouldn't get shot, and rolled back into the manhole with a big burnt patch on the leg and ass of his pants.
His company commander saw him the next day and said 'hell of a fart, eh, son?'
God bless our veterans, and veterans everywhere.
Cycloptichorn
Great story! My grandfather was drafted at age 35, and his brother at 40.
My family has a long history in American wars. From the war of 1812 forward all wars including Iraqi freedom. When I think about the different men and women I have a huge amount of pride knowing that they fought for me.
1812? That IS a long history.
We've had a member of my family in every war since WWI (I take that back; noone is currently serving), but 1812?!!?!@? I admire your geneological skills!
Cycloptichorn
I can't find anyone in America before that on either side. But there were a lot of British soldiers with my surname, so who knows they may have been on the other side.
My grandfather (a WWII vet) recently passed away. He was ill off and on for most of his life as a direct result of his military service.
Shortly after his death, President Bush sent a plaque and a letter to my grandmother expressing his thanks for my grandfather's service (SOP, I know), but how I wish my grandfather had seen it. He would have been so proud!
To the veterans:
EIRE ABU!!!
Ireland and the American Revolution:
Irish Immigrants who Fought for America's Freedom
Commodore John Barry in the Revolutionary War:
The U.S. Navy's Irish-born Founding Father
Timothy Murphy, Frontier Rifleman:
Revolutionary War Marksman at Saratoga
The Volunteers of Ireland:
Not All Irishmen Sided With the Patriots
Irish at The Alamo
Davy Crockett's Valiant Irish Dozen
Thomas Francis Meagher's Irish Brigade
Parent Unit of the 'Fighting 69th' New York Regiment
The Irish Brigade Monument at Antietam
Irish Who Fell on the Civil War's Bloodiest Day
Colonel Michael Corcoran's Irish Legion
The Union's 'Other' Irish Brigade in the Civil War
General Philip Sheridan
From Civil War Hero to Indian Fighter
Corporal Michael Corcoran's Forgotten Medal of Honor
An Irish American Veteran Pays Homage to a Hero of the Indian Wars
Irish-born Medal of Honor Recipients
127 Honored For Bravery during the Civil War
Irish in the Confederate Army
Generals, Units and a Chaplain
General Patrick Cleburne
A Confederate Officer from Co. Cork
Eight Alabama Emerald Guard
An Irish Company in Confederate Service
The Irish at The Little Bighorn
7th Cavalry Troopers Who Fell with Custer
Captain Myles Keogh
An Irish-born Officer Who Died with Custer
Garryowen, Montana
Named After the 7th Cavalry's Irish Marching Song
Gunnery Sgt. Daniel Joseph Daly, U.S. Marine Corps
Double Medal of Honor Winner in China and Haiti
The Fighting 69th in World War I
'Wild Bill' Donovan, Fr. Francis Duffy, and Joyce Kilmer
Fr. John Patrick Washington, U.S. Army Chaplain
Son of Irish Immigrants Earns Immortality in World War II
The 165th (69th) Infantry in World War II
Makin Island, Saipan and Okinawa
Audie Murphy in World War II
America's Most Decorated Combat Soldier
Irish Dead in World War II Europe
Remains of 18 Irish-born U.S. Soldiers Repatriated After War
The Irish in Korea
Soldiers and Civilians in America's 'Forgotten War'
The Irish on the Wall
Irish Men and Women Listed on the Vietnam War Memorial
The War on Terrorism
Irish America's Heroes of 9/11
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The Battle of Ridgeway,1866:
Fenian Brotherhood Routs the Canadian Militia in Ontario
A Canadian Perspective on the Fenian Raids:
Attacks Transformed 'British North America' into Nation of Canada
Orange and Green Maple Leafs
Irish-Canadian Contribution in War of 1812, WW I & II
The Irish Regiment of Canada:
Irish-Canadians in World War I and II
MEXICO
The Real Zorro:
Mexico's Legendary Hero was an Irishman
Lt. Col. Hugo O'Conor in New Spain (Mexico):
An Irish Officer Guards Spain's New World Frontiers
San Patricio and Refugio
Irish Settlements in Mexican Texas
The San Patricio (Saint Patrick's) Battalion
Irishmen Who Switched Sides During the Mexican-American War
The San Patricios:
Mark Day's Site on the Irishmen Who Died for Mexico
SOUTH AMERICA
The Irish in South America
An Annotated Bibliography of the Irish Presence
ARGENTINA
Admiral William Brown:
The Irish-born Founder of Argentina's Navy
BOLIVIA
General Francis Burdett O'Connor
Bolivia's Minister of War from Co. Cork
BRAZIL
Colonel Cotter's Recruits
Eyewitness to Irish Tragedy in Rio de Janeiro
CHILE & PERU
Garland, O'Higgins and MacKenna
The Chilean Legacy of three Irish Military Engineers
Don Ambrosio O'Higgins:
The Irish Engineer Who Became Spain's Viceroy in Peru
Bernardo O'Higgins:
Ambrosio's Son Leads Chile to Independence from Spain
William R. Grace, "The Pirate of Peru"
Irish Entrepreneur Benefits from Payoff of Peru's War Debt
The Grace Brothers in Peru
Their Involvement in 1879 Chilean-Peruvian War
PARAGUAY
Eliza Lynch, First Lady of Paraguay (free registration required)
Cork Woman's Ill-fated Alliance with 19th Century Dictator
VENEZUELA
Venezuela's Irish Legacy:
Simon Bolivar's Hard-Luck Irish Legion
Simon Bolivar, the South American Liberator
Idealistic Venezuelan Leader who Inspired the Irish
EUROPE
IRELAND
The Irish Defense Forces Website:
Serving Ireland and U.N. Peacekeeping Operations
Irish Armed Forces on UN Service
Peacekeeping from the Belgian Congo to Lebanon and East Timor
Ireland Reacts to the Boer War
Pride in the North, Division in the South
An Irish Airman Foresees His Death
World War I Ireland in W.B. Yeats' Poem
Francis Ledwidges's Long Road Home (free registration required)
Co. Meath Village Remembers a Soldier-Poet Killed in Flanders
In Memorial Francis Ledgwidge
Seamus Heaney Salutes a Fellow Poet
Irish National War Memorial
The Memorial Gardens at Islandbridge
Ireland's Last Great War Veteran
Royal Irish Rifleman Tommy Shaw, Dead at 102
It's a Long Way to Tipperary:
The Story behind the Famous World War I Song
Islandbridge War Memorial, Dublin
Sir Edwin Lutyens's Tribute to WW I Dead
Ireland's Involvement in World War II:
Neutral, But Neutral for Whom?
The Blitz in Belfast:
Nazi Bombers Target Northern Ireland, 1941
Aftermath of 1941 Blitz Bombing
1,100 Dead, 100,000 Homeless in Belfast
Ireland's Merchant Seamen in WW II (free registration required)
Battling Weather and U-Boats to Keep Sea Lanes Open
U-Boats in Irish Waters
Nazi Submarines Sunk in Irish Sea
Irish People in the Second World War:
An Irish Heroine and Hero
Polar Explorer Tom Crean
Kerry-born Hero of Antarctic Expeditions
AUSTRIA
St. Patrick's Day in Vienna, 1766:
Irish Officers in Habsburg Service Celebrate March 17th
BRITAIN
The Irish Guards
Queen Victoria's Tribute to Irish Bravery against the Boers
Irish Men and Military Service:
Understanding the Irish who Served England in World War I
The 16th (Irish) Division:
A Southern Irish Division in World War I
The 36th (Ulster) Division:
Northern Irish Division in World War I
The 10th (Irish) Division at Gallipoli, 1915:
A Mismanaged Assault in the Dardanelles
Tyneside Irish Brigade:
Bagpipes and Bravery in World War I
Private Patrick Fowler's War
Concealed for Three Years in a French Cupboard
Dungarvan Museum Society, Co. Waterford:
Five Famous Irish Regiments of World War I
The Connaught Rangers
Remembering 'The Devil's Own' from 1793 through Disbandment in 1922
The Royal Dublin Fusiliers:
From India and South Africa to the Somme and Passchendaele
Athy Heritage Centre, Co. Kildare:
World War I's Cost in One Irish County
Post-War Ireland:
Irish Veterans Found a Country Utterly Changed
The Somme Heritage Centre:
Co. Down Museum Remembers Ireland's Sacrifice
The Island of Ireland Peace Park at Messines, Belgium:
Honoring Ireland's Northern and Southern Great War Dead
Aces of World War I:
Irish-born Ace Pilots in the Royal Flying Corps
Irish Winners of the Victoria Cross:
Britain's Highest Award for Acts of Gallantry
Proud "Paddys" in World War II
165,000 from Irish Republic in British Forces
Lt. Maureen O'Sullivan, SOE Agent (free registration required)
Dublin Woman's Heroics in Occupied France
Churchill's Irish Minister of Information
Master of British Propaganda from Tipperary
Blair Mayne, Special Air Service Hero (free registration required)
Ulsterman Wreaks Havoc on Rommel's Afrika Corps
James Joseph Magennis, VC
Ireland's Last Winner of the Victoria Cross
Royal Ulster Rifles
Northern Irish Regiment in WWII and Korea
The Royal Irish Regiment, formed 1992
Merger of Royal Irish Rangers and Ulster Defense Regiment
"Green Is The Colour"
Royal Irish Celebrate March 17, 2003 at Home
FRANCE
The Battle of Cremona, 1702
Irish Regiments Save the French Army in Italy
The Battle of Fontenoy, 1745:
The Irish Save the Day for France in Belgium
Fontenoy 1745, by Emily Lawless:
Poetry Celebrating Irish Role in French Victory over English
Battle of Culloden, Scotland in 1746:
Irish in French Service Support Scots against English
Irish Brigade Officers in the American Revolution:
Dillon's Regiment Against the English at Savannah, 1779
Napoleon's Irish Legion:
Raised to Invade Ireland, Decimated in European Campaigns
Napoleon's Legion Irlandaise, 1803-1815
With Names of Commandants and Bibliography
Wild Geese Heritage Museum and Library
Galway-based Tribute to Irish in French Service
GERMANY
Hitler's 'Irish Brigade':
A German Effort to Recruit Irish-born Prisoners-of-War
RUSSIA
Field Marshal Peter Lacy
A Limerickman in 18th Century Russia
The O'Rourkes of Belarus
Descendants of Exiled Earls in Russia and Poland
SPAIN
Irish in the Spanish Civil War:
Connolly Column versus O'Duffy Volunteers
AFRICA
Rorke's Drift, South Africa:
Irish in British Service against the Zulus, 1879
Irish Regiments in the Boer War
1,500 Irish Dead in Defense of Britain's Empire
Tom Crean Earns a VC against the Boers (free registration required)
Dublin-born Doctor Tends the British Wounded Under Fire
The Boer Republics' Irish Allies
Major MacBride Leads Irish Commandos Against the British
John MacBride of Westport
Co. Mayo Origins of the Transvaal Irish Brigade
Irish Police in South Africa
Keeping Order in the Cape and Natal
South African Irish Regiment:
Bagpipes and Wolfhounds in the SANDF
ASIA
INDIA
The Irish Soldier in India
Birthplace of the Dublin (Madras) and Munster (Bengal) Fusiliers
IRAQ
Paddy and Saddam
War is Serious Business, and the Irish Wage it with Humor
KOREA
THE IRISH IN FOREIGN SERVICE
(General Web Sites)
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Irish Soldiers in Every Cause But Their Own
The Irish in Uniform
World War I to Vietnam, With a Tipperary Emphasis
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Thanks Gav! Patrick Cleburne is one of my heros. He tried to get Davis to free slaves in exchange for fighting for the confederacy long before it was done by either side. I am an Irish history buff.
cannistershot wrote: I am an Irish history buff.
Cannistershot, you are more than welcome for the above "injection" of the Irish contribution to this planet (not all good I may add- but thats the way it goes) but it aint bad for a country of 4 million!!!. Throw into the bargain that we helped build this young country, 30 somethin % claim Irish ancestry, I cant remember the percentage but a sizeable amount of your presidents have had Irish ancestry. This is why I don't listen to georgeob1 when he complains that 1000's of Irish american families send money back to their families in Ireland.
Since you are an Irish history buff - surely you recognise the futility of a regular army trying to fight a guerilla army to a stand still?. Man, it just doesnt work!!. We've been struggling with the British for
800 years and all we got was 3/4 of the country (then the bastards divided us up nice and conveniently). But do ya know what I'm saying Cannister? Do you see the parallels between the Irish struggle and pretty much every other struggle in the planet - ETA,ANC,PLO it just goes on man. FFS the thing that really helped kick off the modern "troubles" in the occupied 6 counties was when civil rights movement started in this country!!!
War is not for children and other living things.
I am a backseat driver from America
They drive to the left on Falls Road
The man at the wheel's name is Seamus
We pass a child on the corner he knows
And Seamus says, Now, what chance has that
kid got?
And I say from the back, I don't know.
He says, There's barbed wire at all of these exits . . .
And there ain't no place in Belfast for that kid
to go.
(chorus)
It's a hard life
It's a hard life
It's a very hard life
It's a hard life wherever you go
If we poison our children with hatred
then, the hard life is all that they'll know
And there ain't no place in (Belfast) for
these kids to go
A cafeteria line in Chicago
The fat man in front of me
Is calling black people trash to his children
he's the only trash here I see
And I'm thinking this man wears a white hood
in the night when his children should sleep
But, they slip to their window and they see him
And they think that white hood's all they need
I was a child in the sixties
dreams could be held through TV
With Disney, and Cronkite, and Martin Luther
Oh, I believed, I believed . . I BELIEVED
Now, I am the backseat driver from America
I am not at the wheel of control
I am guilty, I am war, . . . I am the root of all evil
Lord, and I can't drive on the left side of the road
williamhenry3 wrote:War is not for children and other living things.
This thread is to honor heros not to protest. If you want that start another thread please.
Americans have fought and died for our freedom for over 200 years. If you think that they should be at war or not do those soldiers not deserve respect and support? If you hate the government fine, but take it out on the government the soldiers in Iraq are there doing their job, please respect them if not the war. When you protest the war in a soldiers eyes you are then protesting them. Please if you want to protest Iraq, or Bush or whatever start another thread. Please feel free to honor the heros here who give/gave us the freedom to protest.