The anti-gay marriage movement IS homophobic

You don't seem to realize a lot of things. A semantics discussion is exactly what this is. An argument over the definition of the word "marriage". Neither side seems willing to negotiate the definition so the debate wears on.

Therefore; Anti-gay marriage is a symptom of the latent homophobia which is still heavily apparent in our society.

This should not be surprising; it's only been a few decades since open gayness was allowable by mainstream society. I believe that those of my generation (I'm 25) are much more open to the idea of homosexuality than previous generations, and as time goes on, you will see that reflected in people's attitudes....

Not that that has anything to do with the law. Which, I remind everyone, should be based upon LOGIC, and sound logic at that.

But he wears thong underwear.

Therefore; Anti-gay marriage is a symptom of the latent homophobia which is still heavily apparent in our society.

The consititution says that all men are free and equal.

If you consider homosexuals to be people, you have to give them exactly equal rights that other people have, even if the idea of it makes you uncomfortable.

Most would consider murderers to be people also, but do not believe they are entitled to the same rights as you and I. I don't intend to compare homosexuality to murder, just to point out the inherent fallacy in your argument.

I've given them to you Cyclo, you just do not want to understand or accept them.

Being pro-hetero marriage in no way, shape or form makes one homophobic.

Wanting to keep a traditional definition of family baeing one mother, one father and children is not being homo-phobic.

Wanting to keep the traditional definition of marriage being one man and one woman is not being homo-phobic.

Wanting to be able to pass on a families traditional values to their offspring is not being homo-phobic.

None of these things have ANYTHING to do with homosexuals.

I think the only definition being distorted in this thread has been that of "homo-phobia".

Being pro-hetero marriage in no way, shape or form makes one homophobic.

Wanting to keep a traditional definition of family baeing one mother, one father and children is not being homo-phobic.

Wanting to keep the traditional definition of marriage being one man and one woman is not being homo-phobic.

Wanting to be able to pass on a families traditional values to their offspring is not being homo-phobic.

None of these things have ANYTHING to do with homosexuals.

Ticomaya wrote:

Most would consider murderers to be people also, but do not believe they are entitled to the same rights as you and I. I don't intend to compare homosexuality to murder, just to point out the inherent fallacy in your argument.

When you don't intend to do so, why did you actually do it then

I've given them to you Cyclo, you just do not want to understand or accept them.

Being pro-hetero marriage in no way, shape or form makes one homophobic.

Wanting to keep a traditional definition of family baeing one mother, one father and children is not being homo-phobic.

Wanting to keep the traditional definition of marriage being one man and one woman is not being homo-phobic.

Wanting to be able to pass on a families traditional values to their offspring is not being homo-phobic.

None of these things have ANYTHING to do with homosexuals.

I think the only definition being distorted in this thread has been that of "homo-phobia".

McGentrix wrote:

I've given them to you Cyclo, you just do not want to understand or accept them.

Being pro-hetero marriage in no way, shape or form makes one homophobic.

Wanting to keep a traditional definition of family baeing one mother, one father and children is not being homo-phobic.

Wanting to keep the traditional definition of marriage being one man and one woman is not being homo-phobic.

Wanting to be able to pass on a families traditional values to their offspring is not being homo-phobic.

None of these things have ANYTHING to do with homosexuals.

I think the only definition being distorted in this thread has been that of "homo-phobia".

McG

You've never done nor said anything to make me suspect you guilty of homophobia (Websters: homophobia n : prejudice against (fear or dislike of) homosexual people and homosexuality), your statements on the matter have been clear.

But what you state above, your preferences for maintenance of a legal definition and legal status, can't be granted any further validity than mere preference. Again, lots of folks did, and some still do, maintain the preference that the races do not intermingle sexually or socially. Preference, arising out of tradition or local cultural norms, cannot be the basis upon which we deny the equality provisions and principles of a just society.