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Sun 9 Apr, 2017 03:11 pm
Is the sentence below correct with respect to parallelism or do all nouns need an adjective? Thanks very much.
I have a black panther, a tiger, and a lion.
@centrox,
I would drop the comma after tiger. What do you think?
@izzythepush,
Izzy that's a good q 'cause the comma is on its way out except where needed for meaning. However, the speedreader still might infer some special connection between the tiger and lion
@izzythepush,
I believe the Oxford comma is required by scientific journals, so I always use it.
http://thewritepractice.com/why-you-need-to-be-using-oxford-commas/
@Doubtful,
I would use the comma just to indicate the lion and the tiger were separate, as opposed to being a pair of animals.
@roger,
It seems clear that they are separate due to the usage of
a before each animal.
@Doubtful,
A lot of us use the Oxford comma, including as you said, science papers, but also plenty of magazines here in the US.
The Oxford comma confirms no special association between the last two items on the list.
15 very highbrow reasons why morality commands you to use the Oxford comma.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/sarahhenrich/15-reasons-why-you-should-use-the-oxford-comma-yr75?utm_term=.fy7a0Yo6w#.soKVWPYZ2
@ossobucotemp,
Doesn't the Chicago Manual of Style require it?
@Doubtful,
I have no idea, but I wouldn't be surprised.
@ossobucotemp,
My "style guide" is the New Yorker Magazine, not that I write as well as its writers do.
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/comma-queen-the-strippers-j-f-k-and-stalin-or-the-importance-of-serial-commas
I've read the magazine for sixty years, so I tend to follow it instinctively. I also fool around, and make some of my own rules: for example, I capitalize words somewhat less than rules call for at least in my every day sort of writing.
@roger,
Quote:That's how I should have said it.
That would have only made you seem more confused.
@Doubtful,
These ideas are all part of the Strunk & White mumbo jumbo that has been so prevalent in US English "education" for well over 50 years.
Quote:
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002313.html
Still, it falls foul of Strunk & White's 19th principle in their Elements of Style, "Express coordinate ideas in parallel form"; in fact, it's a much bolder violation of this principle than the example that Strunk & White begin their discussion with:
(2) Formerly, science was taught by the textbook method, while now the laboratory method is employed.
Strunk & White continue their exposition on maxim 19 with various types of questionable coordinations, mostly of the sort we've been calling "WTF coordination" here at Language Log Plaza (most recently, in Eric Bakovic's report of a possible Bushism and in my discussion of two specific cases, one involving recipe register features, the other coordinate questions). That is, they lump together rhetorical parallelism and the requirements of syntax. As it turns out, they also work with an implicit, unexamined theory of coordination that's seriously confused. And they cast their advice in very general terms, without seeming to realize that their rules actually make predictions about what's acceptable English, many of which they would surely not welcome.
Strunk & White aren't alone in these respects. As I'll illustrate briefly from two recent manuals, the advice literature on parallelism exhibits all three of these problematic features: a fuzzy notion of parallelism (more generally, a failure to distinguish grammar, usage, and rhetoric), a seat-of-the-pants syntactic theory, and wildly overgeneralized prescriptions.
@camlok,
Never did like Strunk & White, didja?
@roger,
Does anyone who has any reasonable grasp of the English language like S&W, Roger?
@ossobucotemp,
False Fronts in the Language Wars
Why New Yorker writers and others keep pushing bogus controversies.
Steven Pinker
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_good_word/2012/05/steven_pinker_on_the_false_fronts_in_the_language_wars_.html