The Problem of Self

Frank, you cannot attack yin and yang because you are too baffled... stunned! Do you really not know?

Frank, would you really take evil over truth and life over death?

RexRed wrote:

Frank, you cannot attack yin and yang because you are too baffled... stunned! Do you really not know?

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Frank, would you really take evil over truth and life over death?

Huh???

What are you talking about?

I honestly have no idea to what these two items refer.

Frank Apisa wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Frank, you cannot attack yin and yang because you are too baffled... stunned! Do you really not know?

Quote:

Frank, would you really take evil over truth and life over death?

Huh???

What are you talking about?

I honestly have no idea to what these two items refer.

Exactly what I asked, the problem of self. Self without God? Life without relative extreme, yin without yang?

I think I will just wait until Rex explains what in hell he is talking about himself.

Rex...if you are taking exception to something I have said...please have the decency to point out the comment I made...and explain in a coherent way what it is with which you disagree.

I will be delighted to comment on whatever comes up...so long as I understand what it is you are saying.

Rex appears to have rejected polar dualities,
(life-death, evil-good, yin-yang) towards a religious belief statement which emphases the free independent existence of the poles. He then appeals to Frank to recognise the "obvious" value or "intrinsic truth" of such a belief.

This is the language of the committed...an evangelistic mindset which bolsters itself by "the fight against ignorance" (or the Devil) and the glow of the occasional conversion (reifying his own)...."in true and certain knowledge of redemption".

Rex plays the game of debate to catch his convert,
But don't we all to some extent? :wink:

NB Rex

Technically , although 14 lines, that wasn't a sonnet !

(Rhyme =ABAB CDCD EFEF GG)

Frank How can I take exception to anything you have said when ultimately there is nothing that you can be nailed down to spiritually... thus the confusion... I marvel at your confusion.

I cannot accept duality because it ultimately claims that woman is evil with a good nature and man is good with an evil nature. This is preposterous.

In my own clarity I see the vacuum of your own utter doubt in any REAL knowledge.

For instance God IS good and we are all, humans and animals, created Godly.

I cannot deny God for "nothingness". I have to believe in a "Holy" God.

I must go a step further to ensure that my motives and perceptions are not tainted by a malicious doubt and I am not the puppetry of this doubt... So I will know and recognize this God by this God's presupposed good behavior. I will know the character and resemblance to the presumption of an image of love and virtue... So if the Bible paints God out to be evil then it cannot be true or I am not reading the message in the correct way it was intended.

You claim God is not known so you leave the possibility open that God in truth could be evil... That is also preposterous.

This I do not accept. I am not confused about the nature of the true God where in your uncertainty lies a license to reject the God of the Bible rather than search deeper for the true purpose and meaning of the difficult passages.

I find it that your mind is both yin and yang... You are open to the winds of suggestion on any given whim of thought because you have no "guiding" set of "solid" standards which are on the ground floor... again thus the confusion.

Do you choose death over life? Good over evil? God over the devil?

There is no anchor to keep you from floating adrift... Because you refuse or choose that these basic premises are unknown. You can see why I find your predicament rather a reason for needing a basic premise of ideas. Not so much to discover God but to discover the Godliness within yourself.

Frank Continued....


It is not that you are full of mundane and insignificant thoughts...

.. but that your every shaky spiritual thought is carved by the unknown.

You may say... "Anyway, why would you follow a God that stones homosexuals and adulterers?" I say that since God is good... then he must have had damn good reasons for this... I search for the reasons... and I find...

...he well may have had many good reasons at the time! Also, I find more... I find a God that has sacrificed the things he has dearly loved to give unworthy me the very best. I do not find a vengeful God but a merciful God of grace... I do not find a cartoon but a solid reliable God that I can lean upon in all times and trust.

You may say... "Anyway, why would you follow a God that stones homosexuals and adulterers?" I say that since God is good... then he must have had damn good reasons for this... I search for the reasons... and I find, he well may have had many good reasons at the time!