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Saddam’s Multiple Acts of Aggression Against the U.S.

 
 
Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2004 05:50 pm
Connecting the dots:

Saddam's Multiple Acts of Aggression Against the U.S.,
(including participation in the surprise attack of September 11, 2001).

A. Motive and Policy

After the Persian Gulf war, Saddam Hussein viewed his expulsion from Kuwait as only a temporary set-back in a continuing war with America; in 1991 his news agency carried the threat that "the American arena will not be excluded from the operations and explosions of the Arab and Muslim mujahedin and all the honest strugglers in the world" (Iraq News Agency, Jan 30, 1991, quoted by Laurie Mylroie (former CIA official [Clinton era]), Iraq News, http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1999/03/990304_in.htm , March 4, 1999.;

B. Alliance with Al Qaida

"Saddam's willingness to help bin Laden plot against Americans began in 1990, shortly before the first Gulf War, and continued through last March, the eve of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. It says bin Laden sent ?'emissaries to Jordan in 1990 to meet with Iraqi government officials.'' At some unspecified point in 1991, according to a CIA analysis, ''Iraq sought Sudan's assistance to establish links to al-Qaida.' [¶] The primary go-between throughout these early stages was Sudanese strongman Hassan al-Turabi, a leader of the al-Qaida-affiliated National Islamic Front." (October 27, 2003 Defense Department memo to Senate Intelligence Committee, as reported by the Weekly Standard, as reported in WorldNetDaily, November 15, 2003.)

"In November [2003], the Weekly Standard reported a 16-page top secret government memo to the Senate Intelligence Committee said bin Laden and Saddam had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, as well as financial and logistical support, and may have included the bombing of the USS Cole and the Sept. 11 attacks." (2004 WorldNetDaily.com, May 27, 2004, citing the Weekly Standard, November, 2003, citing Senate Intelligence Committee memo.)

There are at least "50 instances of contacts between senior al-Qaeda officials and Iraqi operatives - starting in 1990 and continuing right up to March 2003." (Weekly Standard, Nov. 15, 2003 )

"In what could go down as the Mother of All Copyediting Errors, Babil, the official newspaper of Saddam Hussein's government, run by his oldest son Uday, last fall published information that appears to confirm U.S. allegations of links between the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda. It adds one more piece to the small pile of evidence emerging from Iraq that, when added to the jigsaw puzzle we already had, makes obsolete the question of whether Saddam and Osama bin Laden were in league and leaves in doubt only the extent of the connection. [¶] In its November 16, 2002, edition, Babil identified one Abd-al-Karim Muhammad Aswad as an ?'intelligence officer,' describing him as the ?'official in charge of regime's contacts with Osama bin Laden's group and currently the regime's representative in Pakistan.' A man of this name was indeed the Iraqi ambassador to Pakistan from the fall of 1999 until the fall of the regime." (Stephen F. Hayes, "The Al Qaeda Connection," Weekly Standard, 05/12/2003, Volume 008, Issue 34.

See generally: Stephen F. Hayes, The Connection: How al-Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein Has Endangered America (HarperCollins, 2004).

C. The Nine Attacks:

1. First Attack on World Trade Center (February 26,1993)

On Friday, February 26, 1993, the second anniversary of the U.S. liberation of Kuwait, two Iraqi agents Ramzi Yousef (aka "Rashid the Iraqi"), the mastermind, and Abdul Rahman Yasin, along with others, organized the first attack (by bombing) of the World Trade Center, the symbol of world capitalism and of the U.S. economy;

"[T]he book The New Jackals by Simon Reeve, published in 1999 by Northeastern University Press. . . . documents connections that Ramzi Youssef, the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, had with Iraqi intelligence officials.
. . . [¶] With regard to connections between Iraq and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the book makes the following points:
• The author concludes that evidence of Iraqi involvement in the 1993 Twin Towers bombing is strong.
• Significance was placed on the timing of the attack on Feb. 26. This date marked the second anniversary of the liberation of Kuwait.
• One of the WTC conspirators, Abdul Rahman Yasin, became a fugitive and, as late as 1999, was living openly in Baghdad, possibly working for the Iraqi government.
• Another conspirator, Mohammad Salameh, is the nephew of Qadri Abu Bakr, a leading figure in a Palestine Liberation Organization terrorist unit that received funding from the Iraqi regime. Before Ramzi Youssef came to the United States to oversee the WTC bombing, Salameh made the first of 46 phone calls to Baghdad, most of them to his uncle.
• Ramzi Youssef came from Baluchistan, a Sunni area in Iraq that spread into Iran and Pakistan. Pakistan intelligence sources were convinced that Youssef had close links to the MKO.
• American and Pakistani intelligence sources believe that while Youssef was teaching in Osama bin Laden's terrorist camps in 1992, he met with a senior Sunni representative of the MKO who was working for the government in Baghdad. The MKO official, acting under orders from Baghdad, is reported to have asked Youssef to go to the United States to prepare a spectacular terrorist attack." (Robert E. Powis, letter to the Washington Times, June 05, 2004, citing Simon Reeve, The New Jackals, Northeastern University Press, 1999, emphasis added.)

"[On September 1, 1992] . . . Ramsi You[s]sef (aka "Rashid the Iraqi") arrives in United States." (www.iraqi-freedom.com/chat/show.php/act/ST/f/1/t/743, Sam Pender, Iraq's Smoking Gun, citing Laurie Mylroie, The War Against America.) "Ramzi Yousef, who masterminded the 1993 attack and whose laptop computer contained plans to crash U.S. airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, entered the U.S. with an Iraqi passport." (Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Monday, Sept. 15, 2003.) The passport misappropriated the identity of "Abdul Basit," a national of Kuwait then under Iraqi occupation. (Jack Kelly, Jewish World Review, August 20, 2002.)

"Ramzi Yousef is the convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. He also plotted to bomb U.S. airliners in January 1995. [¶] In 1993, before the bombing, Yousef lived in Jersey City, New Jersey, with fellow bomber Mohamed Salameh, one of the first four men convicted in the WTC attack and sentenced to life in prison. According to the presiding judge in his 1998 trial, the bombing of New York's World Trade Center on February 26, 1993 was meant to topple the city's tallest tower onto its twin, amid a cloud of cyanide gas. Had the attack gone as planned, tens of thousands of Americans would have died. Instead, as we know, one tower did not fall on the other, and, rather than vaporizing, the cyanide gas burnt up in the heat of the explosion. ?'Only' six people died. . . . [¶] Pakistani police arrested Yousef a month later, on February 7, 1995, in an Islamabad hotel room. [¶] Prosecutors depicted Yousef as the leader of the cell that carried out the February 26, 1993, World Trade Center truck bombing that killed six people and injured more than 1,000 -- at the time, the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Yousef's fingerprints turned up on bomb-making manuals and storage lockers used by the trade center bombers. He was believed to have bought the chemicals used to construct the 1,500-pound bomb placed inside a rented Ryder truck and detonated after the vehicle was driven into one tower's parking garage. [¶] U.S. District Court Judge Kevin Duffy sentenced Yousef to life in prison on January 8, 1998, for the trade center bombings" (http://www.terrorismfiles.org/individuals/ramzi_yousef.html.)

"We've discovered since [Iraq was liberated] documents indicating that a guy named Abdul Rahman Yasin, who was a part of the team that attacked the World Trade Center in '93, when he arrived back in Iraq was put on the payroll and provided a house, safe harbor and sanctuary. That's public information now." (Vice President Dick Cheney, National Public Radio on January 22, 2004.)

Also involved was ""a Malaysia-based Iraqi national named Ahmed Shakir. . . . Authorities found in his [Shakir's] possession contact information for terrorists involved [inter alia] in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing . . . . The CIA had previous reporting that Shakir had received a phone call from the safe house where the 1993 World Trade Center attacks had been plotted." (Newsmax, Nov. 15, 2003, citing Weekly Standard, citing in turn joint memo of the CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA, emphasis added.)

"[T]he original lead FBI official on the case, Jim Fox, concluded that ?'Iraq was behind the World Trade Center bombing.'" (Joseph Farah, WND, Posted: February 21, 2003, citing Laurie Mylroie, The War Against America: Saddam Hussein and the World Trade Center Attacks, )
See generally, Laurie Mylroie, The War Against America: Saddam Hussein and the World Trade Center Attacks - A Study in Revenge (Harper Collins, 2001); Simon Reeve, The New Jackals, Northeastern University Press, 1999.

2. Attempted Assassination of the first President Bush (April, 1993)

In April, 1993 the Saddam regime attempted to use a car bomb to assassinate former President George Herbert Walker Bush, the man who had foiled his 1991 expansionist ambitions, during the latter's visit to Kuwait;
"On April 14, 1993, Iraq plotted to assassinate former President [George H.W.] Bush during a visit to Kuwait. Two Iraqi nationals were captured with a sophisticated car bomb. They admitted under interrogation they had been recruited by Iraqi intelligence, which supplied them with the bomb. After an investigation, the CIA concluded ?'with confidence' that the recruitment of the assassins had been authorized ?'at the highest levels' of the Iraqi government." (Jack Kelly, Jewish World Review, August 20, 2002.)

3. Bombing of Murrah Building in Oklahoma City (April 19, 1995)

The Saddam regime appears to have participated in the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City;

(a) Ramzi Yousef (the mastermind of the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center) was among former Iraqi soldiers who met with Terry Nichols in the Phillipines to provide the latter with bomb-making expertise;

"In the Philippines as part of Project Bojinka, Ramzi Youssef, on behalf of Iraq, recruited conspirators to attempt to simultaneously bomb five or more U.S. 747 aircraft over the Pacific, using delayed timer tactics with many similarities to Barbouti's 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103. Youssef also conceived of plans to highjack planes bound for the United States in order to dive them, in suicide attacks, into U.S. targets like CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, a tactic later adopted by Osama bin Laden. Youssef flew frequently from Manila to Cebu City in the Philippines in order to recruit potential terrorists at Southwest College in Cebu City. Plaintiffs assert that at some point in time Ramzi Youssef recruited a willing convert in the person of Terry Nichols who witnesses say went to the Philippines seeking technical help in learning to build a bomb. Meetings between Terry Nichols and Ramzi Youssef were witnessed by a Filipino government informant. [¶] In March 1998, Timothy McVeigh wrote ?'Essay on Hypocrisy' from federal prison in Colorado which defended Iraq's right to ?'stockpile chemical or biological weapons' because the U.S. had done so. The Pentagon asserts ?'McVeigh allegedly collected Iraqi telephone numbers' prior to his arrest. [¶] Prior to the Gulf War, Iraq had developed a covert network in the US to acquire materials for weapons of mass destruction. Lawsuit claims individuals operating as Agents of the Republic of Iraq took an active part in planning and financing bombing of Murrah Building in Oklahoma City'" (http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/iraq-911-connection.html.)

"Abdul Hakim Murrad, who was in federal custody in New York City awaiting trial for plotting to blow up airliners, told jailers - ?'and later the FBI' - that the OKC bombing ?'had been orchestrated by his former roommate in the Philippines, Ramzi Youssef,' the ?'most wanted terrorist in the world until his capture in Pakistan in February 1995.' . . . [¶] Evidence suggests that Youssef and Murrad are Iraqi agents, Charles Key, a former Oklahoma legislator and currently a primary member of the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee, told WorldNetDaily yesterday. (Jon Dougherty, © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com, April 18, 2002.)

"On April 19, 1995, an imprisoned Abdul Hakim Murad told his U.S. captors that he and Ramzi Yousef were responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing. He repeated the claim to the FBI the next day.[35]" (J.M. Berger, "Did Nichols and Youssef meet?", INTELWIRE.comhttp://www.intelwire.com/nichols022004.html., citing [35] Peter Lance, 1000 Years for Revenge.)

(b) Hussain Hashem Al Hussaini, a Palestinian with a tatoo proclaiming past service in Saddam's Republican Guard, appears to have been the "John Doe # 2" seen in the company of confessed bomber Timothy McVeigh a few days before the attack.

"[T]he appeals court [U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals] ?'affirmed U.S. District Judge Timothy Leonard's November 17, 1999, ruling, which upheld as 'undisputed' all 50 statements of fact and opinion which set forth on the court record implicating former Iraqi soldier Hussain al-Hussaini in the 1995 bombing. …' . . . [¶] Davis said al-Husseini also admitted in court depositions filed with his lawsuit that he did serve in the Iraqi army. . . . [¶] ?'After two separate lawsuits, both state and federal, this man was unable to produce even one witness affidavit establishing his whereabouts for the critical hours of April 19, 1995,' Davis said. ?'The testimonies of several eyewitnesses who place him in the company of executed bomber Timothy McVeigh and fleeing the scene of the worst act of terrorism in 20th century America stand undisputed.'" (Jon Dougherty, © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com, April 3, 2003)

"During the follow-up investigation, it was discovered that Timothy McVeigh had a large collection of phone numbers of Iraqis that he hid. Jayna Davis' follow-up investigation reveals that 22 witnesses saw an Arab-looking man alongside Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh in the minutes and seconds before the bomb detonated." (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden:
A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing Davis, in US News, October 29, 2001.)

See generally: Jayna Davis, The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing, (WND/Thomas Nelson Publishers, 2004). This book has been endorsed by R. James Woolsey, CIA Director, 1993-1995.

"An FBI report records a call a few hours after the bombing from Vincent Cannistraro, a retired CIA official who had once been chief of operations for the agency's counter-terrorism center. He told Kevin Foust, a FBI counter-terror investigator, that he'd been called by a top counter-terror adviser to the Saudi royal family. Foust reported that the Saudi told Cannistraro about ?'information that there was a "squad" of people currently in the United States, very possibly Iraqis, who have been tasked with carrying out terrorist attacks against the United States. The Saudi claimed that he had seen a list of "targets," and that the first on the list was the federal building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.'" (Joseph Farah, WND, February 21, 2003.)

4. Bombing of U.S. Embassies in East Africa (August 7, 1998)

"On August 7, 1998, the United States embassies in the East African cities of Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya were severely damaged in nearly simultaneous truck bomb attacks. The bombings killed 213 people in Nairobi and a dozen in Dar es Salaam. An estimated 4000 were injured in the Kenyan capital and 85 in Dar es Salaam. Almost all of the victims were African civilians, as well as several US diplomats. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings)

""a Malaysia-based Iraqi national named Ahmed Shakir. . . . Authorities found in his [Shakir's] possession contact information for terrorists involved [inter alia] in the 1998 embassy bombings." (Newsmax, Nov. 15, 2003, citing Weekly Standard, citing in turn joint memo of the CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA.)

5. Attack on USS Cole (October, 2000)

"In February 2000, according to an Iraqi defector whom claims to have shipped arms for Iraq to Al-Qaeda, senior Iraqi officials began planning at least nine operations against the United States in the Middle East and Gulf. The defector says he was told of a plot he was to take part in involving a trade ship packed with explosives to be used by suicide bombers to attack a US ship in the Gulf. The plan was revealed to the defector approximately one month after an Al-Qaeda attempt to attack the USS Sullivans, an American destroyer, in Yemen. In October 2000, Al-Qaeda successfully attacked and badly damaged the USS Cole in Yemen." (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing Christian Science Monitor, April 3, 2002.)

""a Malaysia-based Iraqi national named Ahmed Shakir. . . . Authorities found in his [Shakir's] possession contact information for terrorists involved in [inter alia] the 2000 attack on the USS Cole, . . . . The CIA had previous reporting that Shakir had received a phone call from the safe house where the 1993 World Trade Center attacks had been plotted." (Newsmax, Nov. 15, 2003, citing Weekly Standard, citing in turn joint memo of the CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA.)

6. Second Attack on World Trade Center and Pentagon (Sept. 11, 2001)

The Saddam regime participated in the September 11, 2001 attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon;

"Manhattan U.S. District Court Judge Harold Baer ruled in May that ?'Iraq collaborated in or supported bin Laden/al Qaeda's terrorist acts of September 11.' Baer's finding was issued in response to a civil lawsuit brought against Iraq by two families of 9/11 victims." (Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Sept. 14, 2003; Larry Neumeister, A.P.,CBS News, May 7, 2003.) "[The] May 7, 2003, decision by Manhattan U.S. District Judge Harold Baer, . . . awarded $104 million to two families of 9/11 victims based on the testimony of [Sabah] Khodada [an Iraqi defector], Duelfer and former CIA Director James Woolsey, as well as other evidence presented to his court. [¶] In his opinion Judge Baer wrote that the case was ?'sufficient to meet plaintiffs' burden that Iraq collaborated in or supported bin Laden/al Qaeda's terrorist acts of September 11.'" (Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Jan. 26, 2004.)

"Russian intelligence services warned Washington several times that Saddam Hussein's regime planned terrorist attacks against the United States, President Vladimir Putin has said." (CNN, June 18, 2004.) "Putin said Russian intelligence had been told on several occasions that Saddam's special forces were preparing to attack U.S. targets inside and outside the United States." (Raushan Nurshayeva, Reuters, June 18, 2004.)

a. Saddam's continued targeting of the World Trade Center
"Ramzi Yousef, who masterminded the 1993 attack and whose laptop computer contained plans to crash U.S. airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, entered the U.S. with an Iraqi passport. [¶] After his capture in 1995, the FBI flew Yousef over the World Trade Center and reminded him that his plan to destroy the Twin Towers had not succeeded. His reported response: ?'Not yet.'" (Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Sept. 15, 2003, reporting on a "Meet the Press" interview of Vice President Dick Cheney, emphasis added.)

b. Saddam's Planning of September 11 Attack

"Rosters of officers in Saddam's Fedayeen list Lt. Col. Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, who was present at the January 2000 al-Qaida ?'summit' in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, at which the 9-11 attacks were planned, the Wall Street Journal reports. . . . [¶] Reported accounts of the al-Qaida planning summit said Shakir had a job at the Kuala Lumpur airport he obtained through an Iraqi intelligence agent at the Iraqi embassy. [¶] Among the al-Qaida operatives in attendance were the two who flew American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon - Khalid al Midhar and Nawaz al Hamzi - and Ramzi bin al Shibh, the operational planner of the 9-11 attacks. [¶] Also in attendance was Tawfiz al Atash, a high-ranking Osama bin Laden lieutenant and mastermind of the USS Cole bombing. " (2004 WorldNetDaily.com, May 27, 2004, citing the Wall Street Journal, citing recently translated documents captured by U.S. forces.)


c. Saddam's Agent Shifts from OkC Attack to September 11 Take-off Site (Boston)

"After the [1995 Oklahoma City] attack, Al-Hussaini moved from Oklahoma City to work at Boston's Logan International Airport, where several 9/11 hijackers would meet to seize airliners, including Mohammed Atta." (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing US News, October 29, 2001; see also Jayna Davis: The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing, praised by R. James Woolsey, director of central intelligence, from 1993-1995.).)

"n November 1997, Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini - a former Iraqi Republican Guardsman whom multiple eyewitnesses identified as McVeigh's elusive accomplice, John Doe 2 - confided to his psychiatrist that he was anxious about his airport job because ?'if something were to happen there, I (Al-Hussaini) would be a suspect.' At the time, Al-Hussaini was employed at Boston Logan International Airport, where two of the four 9-11 suicide hijackings originated." (WorldNetDaily.com, May 7, 2004.)

d. Saddam Trains the Hijackers

The al-Qaida insurgents were trained at two camps - Nahrawan and Salman Pak - under the supervision of the Fedayeen Saddam. Saddam trained the al Qaeda terrorists in the art of 9/11-style hijackings in the South Baghdad terrorist training camp Salman Pak, using a Boeing 707 [alternately characterized as a Soviet-era Tupelov 154] airliner plane fusilage, later found by U.S. troops, telling the recruits that the targets were U.S. installations around the world. "Commercial satellite photos show the body of a Boeing 707 at Salman Pak." (Joseph Farah, WND, February 21, 2003.) "U.S. satellite photos confirming the existence of a Boeing 707 fuselage that Khodada and his partner say was used as a hijacking classroom. U.N. weapons inspector Charles Duelfer, who was tapped on Friday to succeed David Kay, corroborated their account. [¶] ?'We reported [the Salman Pak hijacking drills] at the time, but they've obviously taken on new significance' after the 9/11 attacks, Duelfer told USA Today at the time." (USA Today, Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Monday, Jan. 26, 2004.)

"U.N. inspectors had confirmed the camp's existence, including the presence of a Boeing 707. Defectors say the plane was used to train hijackers. . . . [¶] Sabah Khodada, a captain in the Iraqi Army, worked at Salman Pak. In October 2001, he told PBS's ?'Frontline' about what went on there. ?'Training is majorly on terrorism. They would be trained on assassinations, kidnapping, hijacking of airplanes, hijacking of buses, public buses, hijacking of trains and all other kinds of operations related to terrorism. . . . All this training is directly toward attacking American targets, and American interests.'" (Stephen F. Hayes, The Weekly Standard, 09/01/2003, Volume 008, Issue 48.)

" [In 1995] Saddam Hussein sent Farouq Hijaz, a former Iraqi intelligence general, and Habib Ma'muri, chief of special operations, to meet with Bin Laden representatives at Salman Pak, Iraq's top terrorist training camp.[16] According to Iraqi defectors, these meetings resulted in the revival of the plot to hijack airliners in the US to attack prominent US buildings including the World Trade Center, which had already survived the first Iraqi attack. . . . [17]" (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing Radio Free Europe, October 19, 2001.)

"A Nov. 11, 2001, report in the London Observer citing the accounts of two Iraqi defectors who say they helped train radical Islamists to overcome U.S. flight crews using only small knives - a technique never used before 9/11 - at Iraq's Salman Pak terrorist training facility. [¶] Sabah Khodada, one of the defectors, told PBS's "Frontline" that he believed the 9/11 attacks had been executed ?'by graduates of Salman Pak.'" (London Observer, November 11, 2001; Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Monday, Jan. 26, 2004.)

"[In 1997] the first Al-Qaeda camps in Iraq opened up. Saddam Hussein's regime increased the flow of small arms and money to Osama Bin Laden's terrorist organization.[28]" (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing Wall Street Journal, September 24, 2002)

"Saddam's contacts with al-Qaida, the [Iraqi] officers told interrogators, preceded the group's Sept. 11, 2001 strikes on New York and Washington. They said Saudi envoys arranged for al-Qaida insurgents to enter Iraq and begin training in camps around Baghdad. [¶] The al-Qaida insurgents were trained at two camps - Nahrawan and Salman Pak - under the supervision of the Fedayeen Saddam. [¶] One [Iraqi] officer who completed his interrogation was allowed to reveal details of the Saudi role in al-Qaida's operations in Iraq. The officer, identified as "L," told the independent Iraqi weekly Al Yawm Al Aakher that he saw al-Qaida members arrive in Iraq as early as July 2001 for what he described as a secret mission. [¶] ?'L'" said 100 trainees arrived, many of them from Saudi Arabia, led by a cleric named Mohammed. The officer said the Saudi cleric, himself a skilled fighter, remained in Iraq for the war against the U.S. [¶] Officers said the Salman Pak training included ways to hijack airplanes. Training was conducted under the supervision of an unidentified Iraqi general who is currently a police commander. They said many of the al-Qaida insurgents left Iraq after their training stint." (WorldNetDaily, December 26, 2003, linking Geostrategy-Direct, a subscription-based service produced by the publishers of WorldTribune.com.)

"A memo from Iraqi intelligence uncovered by the London Sunday Telegraph last month stating that lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta had completed his training regimen in Baghdad under the tutelage of notorious Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal. The memo was dated just two months before the World Trade Center attacks. [¶] In one passage, the Iraqi intelligence chief reportedly informs Saddam that Atta had demonstrated his capability as leader of the team "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy." (London Sunday Telegraph, Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Monday, Jan. 26, 2004.)

"By the end of 2002, at least 6,000 people from terrorist groups all around the world were currently involved in Iraq's training programs. Camps like Salman Pak, al-Safar and al-Habaniya were often used to train suicide bombers. Training in everything from communications, surveillance, document forgery, infiltration, and spying to explosives creation, work with small arms, to work with poisons and toxins was offered." (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing, Daily Telegraph, October 28, 2001.) "?'We know too that several of the detainees, in particular some high-ranking detainees, have said that Iraq provided some training to al Qaeda in chemical weapons development,' Rice said." (Condoleezza Rice, in interview with PBS' "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, CNN.com, September 26, 2002.)

"On March 12th, former CIA director James Woolsey testified in court in a lawsuit that was filed on behalf of the 9/11 victims, that he was certain that Iraq had a role in 9/11, particularly in the training of hijackers. Five witnesses reported that Al-Qaeda operatives were being trained at Iraq camps, specifically Salman Pak." (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing generally Worldnetdaily.com, March 16, 2003.) In the Manhattan district court's May 7, 2003 decision, "The account of former CIA Director Woolsey, whose testimony was summarized by Judge Baer thusly: [¶] Director Woolsey described the existence of a highly secure military facility in Iraq where non-Iraqi fundamentalists [e.g., Egyptians and Saudis] are trained in airplane hijacking and other forms of terrorism. Through satellite imagery and the testimony of three Iraqi defectors, plaintiffs demonstrated the existence of this facility, called Salman Pak, which has an airplane but no runway.' [¶] Judge Baer continued: ?'The defectors also stated that these fundamentalists were taught methods of hijacking using utensils or short knives. Plaintiffs contend it is farfetched to believe that Iraqi agents trained fundamentalists in a top-secret facility for any purpose other than to promote terrorism.'" (Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Monday, Jan. 26, 2004.)

e. Saddam's Ongoing Operational Contacts with the Hijackers

" [In 1998] Farouq Hijazi was promoted to ambassador to Turkey by Saddam Hussein. Not long after his appointment, Hijazi traveled to Afghanistan and met with Osama Bin Laden. The meeting resulted in an official invitation to Bin Laden to travel to Baghdad for a meeting.[32] Between April 25th and May 1, 1998, two Al-Qaeda senior military advisors, Muhammed Abu-Islam and Abdullah Qassim met with Qusay Hussein, Saddam's youngest son, in Baghdad.[33] Plans were made for the first group of Saudis belonging to Al-Qaeda to be trained in Iraq, whom crossed over in mid-June using secret infiltration routes that Iraqi intelligence had used. Upon arrival at the al-Nasariya terrorist camp, one group of Saudis was taught how to prepare for attacks and conduct surveillance, and the other group was integrated into a network to smuggle weapons and explosives into Saudi Arabia from Iraq.[34]" (Ryan Mauro, "Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?", http://www.worldthreats.com, citing [32] Daily Telegraph, October 28, 2001; [33] and [34] Times of London, October 10, 2001; Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America by Yossef Bodansky. Pages 323-324)

Saddam maintained contacts (through Iraqi intelligence) with at least 4 of the September 11 hijack conspirators, including their leader Mohammed Atta (the others being Marwan al-Shehri, Ziad Jarrah, and Yusuf Galan);

"The London Telegraph reported in December the discovery of a secret memo to Saddam that gives details of a visit by Atta to Baghdad just weeks before the 9-11 attacks. Information obtained by Iraq's coalition goverment indicated Atta was trained in Baghdad by Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal." (2004 WorldNetDaily.com , May 27, 2004, and December 13, 2003, citing the London Telegraph, c. December 13, 2003, in turn citing memo by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service, dated July 1, 2001.)

"Atta met as many as four times in Prague with Iraqi intelligence agent Ahmed al Ani prior to the 9/11 attacks[,]" i.e., in Dec. 1994, June 2000, Oct. 26, 1999, and April 9, 2001. (Newsmax, Nov. 15, 2003, citing Weekly Standard, citing in turn joint memo of the CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA, citing in turn Czech intelligence, Czech Interior Minister Stanislav Gross, and five high-ranking members of the Czech government ].)

"?'[A] very senior CIA man told me that, contrary to the line his own colleagues were assiduously disseminating, there was evidence of an Iraq-al-Qaida link,' Rose writes. ?'He confirmed a story I had been told by members of the anti-Saddam Iraqi National Congress - that two of the hijackers, Marwan Al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah, had met Mukhabarat officers in the months before 9-11 in the United Arab Emirates. This, he said, was a pattern of contact between Iraq and al-Qaida which went back years.'" (2003 WorldNetDaily.com , November 15, 2003, quoting David Rose, Vanity Fair and the United Kingdom's Evening Standard.) "Senior US intelligence sources say the CIA has 'credible information' that in the spring of this year, at least two other members of the hijacking team also met known Iraqi intelligence agents outside the United States. They are believed to be Atta's closest associates and co-leaders, Marwan al-Shehri and Ziad Jarrah, the other two members of the 'German cell ' who lived with Atta in Hamburg in the late 1990s." (The Observer, November 11, 2001.)

" A Wall Street Journal report linking Flight 93 hijacker Ziad Jarrah to Abu Nidal, who had reportedly helped train his 9/11 partner Mohamed Atta. "A constant figure in Jarrah's life in Germany was his great-uncle, Assem Omar Jarrah," the Journal said. "According to the German magazine, Der Spiegel, Assem Jarrah worked for a long time as an informer for the Stasi, the East German secret service, while maintaining connections to [Abu] Nidal's terror group." [¶] Eleven months after the 9/11 attacks, Nidal was executed in Baghdad by Saddam's secret police in what many believe was an attempted cover-up of Iraq's 9/11 complicity." (Wall Street Journal, Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Monday, Jan. 26, 2004.)

"Spanish evidence was also presented [at the trial of the 9/11 case against Saddam] that the 9/11 co-conspirator, Yusaf Galem, was at a party (under this same Al-Qaeda identity) thrown by the Iraqi ambassador to Spain. Why was such a person invited?[113]" (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?", http://www.worldthreats.com, citing Worldnetdaily.com, March 16, 2003.)
"A Malaysia-based Iraqi national named Ahmed Shakir . . . is said to have ?'facilitated the arrival of one of the Sept 11 hijackers for an operational meeting in Kuala Lumpur (Jan 2000)'" (Newsmax, Nov. 15, 2003, citing Weekly Standard, citing in turn joint memo of the CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA.)
"Authorities found in his [Shakir's] possession contact information for terrorists involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the 1998 embassy bombings, the 2000 attack on the USS Cole, and the September 11 hijackings. The CIA had previous reporting that Shakir had received a phone call from the safe house where the 1993 World Trade Center attacks had been plotted." (Newsmax, Nov. 15, 2003, citing Weekly Standard, citing in turn joint memo of the CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA.)

f. Saddam's Financing of the Attack

"A Defense Department memo detailing over 50 contacts between senior officials in Iraq and Osama bin Laden's minions going back to the 1980s. According to a November 2003 report in the Weekly Standard, the memo cites evidence that Ahmed al Ani, the Iraqi intelligence chief in Czechoslovakia, ?'ordered the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] finance officer to issue [Mohamed] Atta funds from IIS financial holdings in the Prague office.'" (Weekly Standard, November, 2003; Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Monday, Jan. 26, 2004.)

"In the past four months [prior to September 11, 2001] at least three high-ranking Iraqi intelligence officials - among them Hassan Ezba Thalaj, a veteran officer with a reputation for ruthlessness - have visited Pakistan to meet representatives of al-Qaeda. Previous visitors have taken large sums of money with them, including Ahmed al Jafari, a senior Baghdad intelligence officer who took £420,000 18 months ago. Other funds have been forwarded via banks in Lebanon." (London Telegraph, telegraph.co.uk, Sept. 23, 2001, "Alert by Saddam points to Iraq" by Jessica Berry in Jerusalem, Philip Sherwell and David Wastell in Washington.)

"Iraqi intelligence bankrolled lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta in the months leading up to the worst terrorist attack ever on U.S. soil Atta met as many as four times in Prague with Iraqi intelligence agent Ahmed al Ani prior to the 9/11 attacks. ... [D]uring one of these meetings, al Ani "ordered the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] finance officer to issue Atta funds from IIS financial holdings in the Prague office." (Newsmax, Nov. 15, 2003, citing Weekly Standard, citing in turn joint memo of the CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA, citing in turn Czech intelligence, Czech Interior Minister Stanislav Gross, and five high-ranking members of the Czech government ].)

g. Saddam's Preparation for Anticipated American Retaliation

In early September, 2001, shortly before the September 11 attacks, Saddam placed his troops on the highest state of alert and with his family retreated into heavily fortified bunkers in Tikrit, evidently fearing retaliation for the imminent attack on the U.S. (See Con Coughlin, Saddam: The Secret Life, 2002, Harper Collins, p. xxv.);

"SADDAM HUSSEIN put his troops on their highest military alert since the Gulf war two weeks before the suicide attacks on America in the strongest indication yet that the Iraqi dictator knew an atrocity was planned." (London Telegraph, telegraph.co.uk, Sept. 23, 2001, "Alert by Saddam points to Iraq" by Jessica Berry in Jerusalem, Philip Sherwell and David Wastell in Washington.)

h. Saddam Celebrates the Attack and Takes Credit

In November, 2001, bin Ladin was proclaimed Iraq's "Man of the Year," but an official poem gave Saddam the credit for the attack by the four hijacked planes;

"On December 3, 2001, a poem was recited by Sheikh Ali Bin Shallal, head of the al-Sharji tribes, at a meeting with the tribal chiefs of Basra and Maysan?-and Saddam Hussein. It is highly likely this will startle you, here is the text:

"From inside America, how five planes flew.
Such a mishap never happened in the past!
And nothing similar will happen.
Six thousand infidels died.
Bin Ladin did not do it; the luck of the president [Saddam] did it.'"

(Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com,)

During Operation Iraqi Freedom, troops found murals in Nasiriya (by marines on March 26, 2003) and in Baghdad (by the Third Infantry on April 13, 2003) at Iraqi military centers depicting the World Trade Center at the awful moment of attack, the former showing Iraqi planes as the perpetrators and the latter depicting Saddam celebrating along side of the burning twin towers;

"U.S. Marines searching Iraqi military headquarters in this southern city [Nasiriya] that was the site of intensive fighting came across a mural depicting a plane crashing into a building complex resembling New York's twin towers, a news agency photograph showed Wednesday. [¶] The plane's logo and coloring resembled that of Iraqi Airlines, said Getty Images News Service executive Brian Felber, based in New York." (NASIRIYA, Iraq, CNN, March 26, 2003, 1st Marine Exped. Force.)

"Major General Buford ?'Buff ' Blount, commander of the Third Infantry Division, stood in the middle of a dusty parade ground yesterday at a militia training center, billows of black smoke rising behind him from yet another destroyed target of Iraqi resistance. As Blount watched, his soldiers unfurled a large mural they had discovered at the facility. There, in vibrant hues, a beaming image of Saddam Hussein, victory cigar in hand, had been painted beside a rendering of the World Trade Center at the awful moment of attack. ?'God protect Saddam and Iraq,' the artist inscribed in Arabic." (Brian MacQuarrie, Boston Globe, 4/13/2003, p. A39; Baghdad, Iraq. )

7. Anthrax attacks in September 18, 2001 - October, 2001

In the days following September 11, anthrax letters were mailed, anthrax being a bioweapon used by Saddam;
"Speaking about the beginning of US retaliation for 9/11, Uday Hussein wrote the following in the Iraqi state media: ?'At this stage it is possible to turn to biological attack, where a small can, not bigger than the size of the hand, can be used to release viruses that affect everything.... The viruses easily spread by air, and people are affected without feeling it.'[77]" (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing Radio Free Europe, October 19, 2001.) Uday Hussein, wrote this in Babil on September 20, 2001, before any news had come out about the Anthrax-laced letters mailed on September 18, 2001. (Cf. Wall Street Journal, "Saddam and the Next 9/11", Feb. 14, 2003.)

"Britain's Guardian newspaper reported Sunday that American investigators probing anthrax outbreaks in Florida and New York believe they have all the hallmarks of a terrorist attack -- and have named Iraq as the prime suspect as the source of the deadly spores. [¶] "The Guardian notes that in liquid form, anthrax is useless - droplets would fall to the ground, rather than staying suspended in the air to be breathed by victims. [¶] ?'Making powder needs repeated washings in huge centrifuges, followed by intensive drying, which requires sealed environments. The technology would cost millions.' [¶] The London paper quoting CIA sources as saying that ?'Iraq has the technology and supplies of anthrax suitable for terrorist use.'. . . [¶] American officials have already revealed that anthrax bacteria used in the recent attacks is the ?'Ames strain' of anthrax originally cultivated at Iowa State University in the 1950s. Iraq is believed to have that strain." (WorldNetDaily, December 26, 2003, linking Geostrategy-Direct, a subscription-based service produced by the publishers of WorldTribune.com.)

"But if we look at the anthrax strain, which was enhanced with bentonite and silicia, Iraq is suspected. Of the few countries suspected of having anthrax weapons, Iraq is the only believed to use bentonite. Silicia and bentonite are used to separate the tiny particles, so as to be inhaled more easily. Former UN biological weapons inspector, Timothy Trevan says that the presence of bentonite in anthrax is a trademark of Iraq's anthrax.[78] Significantly, a former UN inspector and expert in biological warfare, Richard Spertzel, also have said that he believes Iraq sponsored the attack. He testified: "It has to be someone with an existing biological program. These are Russia, Syria, Iran, and Libya. Top of my list, though, is Iraq. There are known associations with intelligence personnel and al-Qaeda. Also they have the capability, and the know-how."[79] Additionally, only three countries are known to have produced anthrax in the way that they were used in the attacks (where the spores are extremely small and made in such a way to minimize potential for not being inhaled). These countries are Iraq, Russia, and the United States." (Ryan Mauro, Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden: A Match Made Up in Propaganda?, http://www.worldthreats.com, citing, [78] ABC News, October 29, 2001, [79] Sunday Telegraph, October 27, 2001.)

"There is immense evidence that ?'Waly Samar' (not his real identity), an Iraqi associate with experience in biotechnology whom worked alongside Ramzi Yousef in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, has a role in the anthrax attacks. The contacts Samar made with Yousef were paid by Abdul Rahman Yasin, the other Iraqi involved in the 1993 plot with Ramzi Yousef who was given safety by Baghdad. Samar has been teaching in New York City (but lives in New Jersey) since receiving his Ph.D. in biology from Hunter College. His graduate and current research was in Bacillus subtilis, a stimulant used in making anthrax as a potent biological weapon. . . . [¶] In 2000, Waly Samar tried to get a job at the University of Minnesota, one of the top colleges for "agricultural aviation", or crop dusting. This is the same college that Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, tried to take courses on crop dusting. Mohammed Atta, the 9/11 leader, is also known to have tried to buy a crop duster." (Ryan Mauro, "Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden:
A Match Made Up in Propaganda?", http://www.worldthreats.com, citing J. Adams, "Is 'Waly Samar' an Iraqi Bioterrorist on U.S. Soil?", http://www.spiritoftruth.org/samar.htm.)

8. Assassination of Laurence Foley (Oct. 28, 2002)

On October 28, 2002, the al-Zarqawi network, a Baghdad-based al-Qaida cell, allied to Saddam, assassinated Laurence Foley, a U.S. diplomat in Jordan;
"An expert in poisons and chemical weapons, Zarqawi is believed to have been providing training to the extremist group Ansar al Islam. The group is based in northeastern Iraq in territory that is under the control of neither Baghdad nor the main Kurdish groups that have divided up most of northern Iraq. [¶] Soon after Zarqawi arrived, Powell said, "nearly two dozen extremists converged on Baghdad and established a base of operations there. [¶] "These Al Qaeda affiliates, based in Baghdad, now coordinate the movement of people, money and supplies into and throughout Iraq for his network, and they are now operating freely in the capital for more than eight months," he added. Coalition officials said that no group could operate in this manner without deep engagement with Iraq's ubiquitous intelligence services. . . . [¶] The unraveling of the Qaeda story in Iraq, which is still under way, took on some of the drama of an espionage thriller when, after the murder of Foley in Amman, the Qaeda deputy to Zarqawi suffered a lapse of communications discipline. As he drove across northern Iraq to the Turkish and Syrian frontiers, he could not resist using his satellite phone to call Foley's murderers to congratulate them and tell them he was on his way to meet with them. . . . [¶] "The captured assassin says his cell received money and weapons from Zarqawi for that murder," Powell said. In December, Jordan announced that it had two men in custody who had confessed to killing Foley on the instructions of Zarqawi.. . [¶] "The captured assassin says his cell received money and weapons from Zarqawi for that murder," Powell said. In December, Jordan announced that it had two men in custody who had confessed to killing Foley on the instructions of Zarqawi." (Patrick E. Tyler, The New York Times, February 7, 2003.)




9. Attacks on U.S. Planes Monitoring "No-fly" Zones (2002 - 2003)

Even during the U.N. inspections, before the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom, the Saddam regime continuously attacked U.S. planes monitoring the "no-fly" zones.

"The no-fly zones were established by the US, the UK and France after the Gulf War for humanitarian reasons in an attempt to stop Saddam's repression of Kurdish people in the north of Iraq, and the Shia population in the south. The aim is to prevent Iraq being able to attack these people from the air. The Secretary of State commented?- [¶] Previously Saddam has used helicopter gun ships to repress the Kurdish population in the north and both fixed wing aircraft and helicopter gun ships to repress Shia muslims in the south. Coalition patrols prevent him using his air force in this way but there is no reason to suppose he would not resume the tactics if the patrols ceased.[63]" (UK Parliament, Select Committee on Defence Thirteenth Report, 27 ) "The UK and the US governments have frequently said that the basis lies in UN Security Council Resolution 688 of April 1991 which?- [¶] ?'... condemns the repression of the Iraqi civilian population in many parts of Iraq ... demands that Iraq ... immediately end this repression ... requests the Secretary-General to pursue his humanitarian efforts in Iraq ... appeals to all Member States ... to contribute to these humanitarian relief efforts.[73]' [¶] The Secretary of State told us?-... the justification is essentially based on the overwhelming humanitarian necessity of protecting people on the ground, combined with the need to monitor the effect of 688; so it is the two taken in combination that provides the legal justification.[74] " (UK Parliament, Select Committee on Defence Thirteenth Report, 30 ) In addition, the underlying legal basis was supplied by UN Security Council Resolution 678, which " . . . 2. Authorizes Member States co-operating with the Government of Kuwait, unless Iraq on or before 15 January 1991 fully implements, as set forth in paragraph 1 above, the foregoing resolutions, to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 (1990) and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area" (UNSCR 678, Nov. 29, 1990; see also UNSCR 1441, Nov. 8, 2002 [reaffirming UNSCR 678].)

"The zones were established shortly after the 1991 Gulf War to protect Kurdish and Shiite Muslim groups. Iraq, which considers the zones violations of its sovereignty, frequently trie[d] to shoot down allied planes. . . . [¶] Under the [Security Council] resolution [1441], a material breach must be reported to the Security Council for new debate and could be used as possible justification for U.S.-led military action to remove Saddam's government. [¶] A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said in Washington Friday the government considers the firing a material breach, but could not say whether or when American officials would raise the issue with the United Nations. [¶] State Department spokesman Frederick Jones said the United States had the option of reporting the Iraqi firing to the Security Council but had not decided whether to do so." (Associated Press, November 18, 2002, "Coalition planes attacked over Iraq." )

"Military officials here at the Pentagon point out there's one sort of delicate problem in calling this a material breach and initiating military action, and that is Iraq has been doing this for over 10 years. It would be a very delicate situation for the U.S. to now suddenly stand up, they say, declare this is a material breach, and that it would be grounds for going to war. [¶] But it is very, very clear Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is becoming increasingly frustrated. He told reporters earlier today that he wanted . . . to remind people, this is the only place in the world where U.S. pilots are fired upon, and there is a measured response by the U.S. military. He pointed out in any other case, there would not be such a measured response." (Wolf Blitzer with Barbara Starr, CNN, "No-Fly Zone Shootings", aired November 18, 2002, http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0211/18/sdi.06.html.)
D. Conclusion

Therefore, "if reporters really want to know why Americans see ties between Baghdad and 9/11, they need look no further than their own archives, where they'll find repeated and as yet undisputed reports documenting compelling evidence of Iraq's role in the attacks." (NewsMax.com, Sept. 17, 2003.) Not only is the evidence undisputed, but the natural conclusion from that evidence comes as no surprise to such authorities as Vice President (and former Secretary of Defense) Dick Cheney, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former CIA director James Woolsey, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, FBI official Jim Fox, [t]he original lead official on the [1993 World Trade Center] case, U.S. District Judge Timothy Leonard [re Oklahoma City bombing] , Manhattan U.S. District Court Judge Harold Baer [re Iraq's involvement in September 11], and U.N. weapons inspector Charles Duelfer.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 07:11 am
I'm intrigued that you don't quote anything from events prior to the Kuwaiti war....

Like how the US supported and trained Saddam's military in the 1980s.

I guess you're as duplicitous as US foreign policy has been over the years.

If I had the time I'd pick holes in the some of contextless, and often unrelated, drivel posted in this message.

I'm guessing that at school you thought teachers would give you higher marks based on the number of words written in essay rather arguing a point in a readable, efficient manner.

But to prove I did try and read your post:

You have several paragraphs about the Iraqis firing on US planes in the no-fly zones. So? In their minds that was their air space - to extrapolate that into the 9/11 attacks is intellectually sloppy, may as well blame the Vietnamese, Libyans, Nicagurans or any of the 40 or so other nations the US has bombed since WW2.

You talk about Iraq breaking UN resolutions. Do you have any idea how many UN resolutions the US has broken? Something about pots and kettles...

Quote:
"Britain's Guardian newspaper reported Sunday that American investigators probing anthrax outbreaks in Florida and New York believe they have all the hallmarks of a terrorist attack -- and have named Iraq as the prime suspect as the source of the deadly spores.


Hmmm. So a paper reports that someone guesses, suspects or believes something. Therefore it must be true. Hello?

Quote:
"The Guardian notes that in liquid form, anthrax is useless - droplets would fall to the ground, rather than staying suspended in the air to be breathed by victims. [¶] ?'Making powder needs repeated washings in huge centrifuges, followed by intensive drying, which requires sealed environments. The technology would cost millions.'


Well that limits it to about 200 nations and thousands of private companies. Genius.

Quote:
The London paper quoting CIA sources as saying that ?'Iraq has the technology and supplies of anthrax suitable for terrorist use.'. . .


So does the USA.

Quote:
American officials have already revealed that anthrax bacteria used in the recent attacks is the ?'Ames strain' of anthrax originally cultivated at Iowa State University in the 1950s. Iraq is believed to have that strain."


So how did the Iowa strain get to Iraq? Heavens, do you think maybe the US military gave it to Iraq as part of the US support of Iraq's war against Iran? Or applying Occam's Razor; maybe the attack came from within the US?

Sigh.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 07:20 am
So, by applying these methods you have used here, have you ruled out the possibilities presented? I think not. All you have done is demonstrated that it's possible.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 07:41 am
Hi McG - it was never my intent to rule out anything as being impossible, merely to state that in the broad range of possibilities the listed 'facts' would not stand up as a case for the prosecution (calling it circumstantial is complimentary) in a court case (well not in a civilian court case, in a country that respected rule of law).

And I didn't even pick on the Al Qaida/Saddam alliance hypothesis (you know Bin Laden despised Saddam because he led a secular government, and in turn Saddam despised Bin Laden because fundamentalism represented a very real threat to his power).

Nighty-night.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 07:51 am
I doubt you, or anyone, can vouch for the feelings between Saddam and Osama. You can speculate on it, but you are now falling into the very same position you accuse duhdlud37 of, stating opinion as fact.
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Magus
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 01:19 pm
dhuluded posts an article of the ilk usually supplied by McGentricks... and encounters skeptical criticism.
Does dhuluded reply?

NO... but >>McG<< steps up to the plate.

One might infer that SOME posters are employing duplicitous methods to forward a duplicitous agenda.

I recall a uncannily similar campaign by unprincipled partisans which contaminated ABuzz... it had a PERMANENT effect upon that site.

I'd really hate to watch a re-enactment of that Farce here at A2K.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 01:23 pm
You should lay off the dope Magus, it's making you paranoid...
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Magus
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 02:23 pm
YOU should stop the "projecting", McG.
I challenge you to produce even ONE post made by me that promotes or encourages drug use.

YOUR habitual "dope" use is NOT a justification for ascribing such behavior to others... unfounded accusations/personal attacks like that are Standard Operating Procedure for cyberthugs like yourself.

Noting your campaign of disinformation, deception and Propagandizing does not make a person "paranoid"... it makes them PERCEPTIVE.

Why don't you try to be a little more "Pragmatic"...
( ;-))
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 02:33 pm
Your unusual fear that I may have a split personality and posting multiple posts under a pseudonym would certainly be an indication of paranoia. I didn't want to imply you had a mental condition, so I relied on a "dope" reference as it is known to cause paranoia in persistant smokers.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 29 Oct, 2004 08:37 pm
McGentrix wrote:
You should lay off the dope Magus, it's making you paranoid...


Personal attacks are against A2K user agreement!
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Oct, 2004 08:48 pm
Montana wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
You should lay off the dope Magus, it's making you paranoid...


Personal attacks are against A2K user agreement!


I don't think any one side has the right to make such claims. If I had a dollar for every time I saw a personal attack I wouldn't be here with you guys, I'd be off in some island stashing my tax-free money! Cool
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 29 Oct, 2004 08:59 pm
Baldimo
I am making a point to McG who reminded another user recently that personal attacks were against the user agreement.
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Magus
 
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Reply Sat 30 Oct, 2004 12:54 am
Recall, if you will, the title of the Topic Header.
Observe which individual generated the topic.

Now scan the participants, their positions, and their rhetoric.

Savor the irony.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 30 Oct, 2004 03:35 am
What a joke!

Hingehead...don't even bother.

This thead, like so many before it, are merely the sounds of the extreme right coming unglued at the realization that the moron is about to be sent packing.
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Xena
 
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Reply Sat 30 Oct, 2004 07:57 am
Anyone who doesn't believe there were connections dismiss 10 years of evidence. Those who hate Bush and can't see how Saddam was a threat, just don't want to know the facts. There is no question the 1st WTC bomber operative, lived in Baghdad. That's enough for me, for the rest, remember this? It is documented within the article that follows.

While the skeptics are sure to persist - especially in an election year - it is worth noting that Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism official promoting a book critical of the Bush administration and insisting Hussein had no connection to al-Qaida, believed in the link in 1999.

He defended President Clinton's attack on a Sudanese pharmaceutical plant by revealing the U.S. was "sure" it manufactured chemical warfare materials produced by Iraqi experts in cooperation with bin Laden.

Clarke told the Washington Post in a Jan. 23, 1999, story that U.S. intelligence officials had obtained a soil sample from the El Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, which was hit with Tomahawk cruise missiles in retaliation for bin Laden's role in the Aug. 7, 1998, embassy bombings in Africa.


Osama-Saddam links
9-11 commission missed...
Overwhelming evidence of connection
between al-Qaida, Iraq before attack...
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WASHINGTON, DC (NS/WND) - In concluding there was "no credible evidence" of cooperation between Iraq and al-Qaida before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on America, the commission charged with investigating events leading to 9-11 'overlooked' more than '10 years of connections' and cooperation between Saddam Hussein's regime and Osama bin Laden's network. This goes back to President Bill Clinton's Administration who indicted Osama bin Laden for Embassy bombings made by al-Qaida. To make a statement as previously mentioned about 'no credible evidence found' is simply ludicrous and not true.

While acknowledging that bin Laden made overtures to Hussein in the mid-1990s while he was in Sudan and again after he went to Afghanistan in 1996, they "do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship," the commission's staff said in a report released yesterday. The report also seems to rely heavily on the word of two of bin Laden's most senior associates who "have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq'' during interrogations.

President Bush, who minimized the bin Laden-Iraq connection as a pretext for the invasion of Iraq, quickly responded to the report by affirming that "numerous contacts" between Iraq and al-Qaida did indeed justify the U.S.-led war on Hussein's regime. Anyone who has been following the 'trail' between al-Qaida and Iraq is well aware of all the various ways the two were assisting eachother, including Terrorist training camps 'inside' Iraq which included an airplane fuselage to 'train' in. At another Iraqi Terrorist base in Northern Iraq, the 'plans' for making WMD's were found along with numerous manuals and some small amounts of chemical and biological substances. This alone was 'clear proof' that a connection did exist between Iraq and al-Qaida since this was going on 'inside' Iraq.

"There was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al-Qaida,'' Bush told reporters after meeting with his Cabinet at the White House. "This administration never said that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al-Qaida. We did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam and al-Qaida.''

Bush added: "Saddam Hussein was a threat. He was a threat because he had used weapons of mass destruction against his own people. He was a threat because he was a sworn enemy of the United States of America, just like al-Qaida. He was a threat because he had terrorist connections."

"The world is better off and America is more secure without Saddam Hussein in power," the president said.

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, the four-term U.S. senator from Massachusetts, responded to the report from the commission by saying Bush misled the nation.

"This president failed the test in Iraq," Kerry, 60, said while campaigning in Ohio. "When it comes to war and peace, I will tell the truth to the American people."

Vice President Dick Cheney also said there were clearly ties between Hussein and the al-Qaida terrorists going back to the early 1990s, and he called the New York Times coverage of the story "outrageous."

"It involves a whole series of contacts, high-level contacts between Osama bin Laden and Iraqi intelligence officials," he told CNBC. "It involves a senior official, a brigadier general in the Iraqi intelligence service going to the Sudan before bin Laden ever went to Afghanistan to train them in bomb-making, helping teach them how to forge documents."

Cheney pointed to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, still in Iraq today, who, he points out, "is an al-Qaida associate who took refuge in Baghdad, found sanctuary and safe harbor there before we ever launched into Iraq."

He also noted the link provided by Abdul Rahman Yasin, who mixed the chemicals used in the World Trade Center bombing in 1993. He fled to Iraq "and we found since when we got into Baghdad, documents showing that he was put on the payroll and given housing by Saddam Hussein after the '93 attack; in other words, provided safe harbor and sanctuary. There's clearly been a relationship," said Cheney.

"What the New York Times did today was outrageous," added Cheney. He says the suggestion that there is a fundamental split between what the president said and what the commission reported is preposterous. "What they were addressing was whether or not they [Iraqis] were involved in 9-11. And there they found no evidence to support that proposition. They did not address the broader question of a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida in other areas, in other ways."

In the Zarqawi case, Cheney added: "Here's a man who's Jordanian by birth. He's described as an al-Qaida associate. He ran training camps in Afghanistan back before we went to war in Afghanistan. After we went in and hit his training camp, he fled to Baghdad. Found safe harbor and sanctuary in Baghdad in May of 2002. He arrived with about two dozen other supporters of his, members of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, which was (Ayman) al-Zawahiri's organization. He's the number two to bin Laden, which was merged with al-Qaida interchangeably. Egyptian Islamic Jihad, al-Qaida, same-same. They're all now part of one organization. They merged some years ago. So Zarqawi living in Baghdad. We arranged for information to be passed on his presence in Baghdad to the Iraqis through a third-party intelligence service. They did that twice. There's no question but what Saddam Hussein really was there. He was allowed to operate out of Baghdad. He ran the poisons factory in northern Iraq out of Baghdad. ... There clearly was a relationship there that stretched back over that period of time to at least May of '02, a year before we launched into Iraq. He is the worst offender. He's probably killed more Iraqis than any other man in Iraq today. He is probably the leading terrorist still operating in Iraq today."

With regard to the reports that Mohammad Atta, the Sept. 11 mastermind, met with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague April 9, 2001, Cheney pointed out that the 9-11 commission merely found no evidence to confirm the information. Some reports have suggested the commission found that the meeting never took place.

"The notion that there is no relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida just simply is not true," Cheney asserted.

Yossef Bodansky, author of "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America," written and published well before the Sept. 11 attacks, documents numerous contacts and meetings between bin Laden's agents and agents of Hussein. In addition, Bodansky, the U.S. Congress' top terrorism adviser, said the relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida predated the Sept. 11 attacks by a decade, and continued thereafter.

CIA reports of Iraqi-al-Qaida cooperation number nearly 100 and extend back to 1992, according to Department of Defense sources...

According to a Dec. 9, 2002, report in the Los Angeles Times, shortly before the Sept. 11 attacks, a group of al-Qaida fighters left Afghanistan and set up shop in Iraq as a backup base. Bin Laden's jihadists established such a base in town of Al Biyara and nearby mountain villages where Kurdish militants had begun imposing the strict Islamic rule much like Afghanistan's ousted Taliban regime, according to the Times report.

Last year the London Guardian reported the deadly poison ricin discovered at a makeshift lab in a north London apartment was linked to a group of Algerian extremists with ties to al-Qaida and Iraq.

The Associated Press reported a senior U.S. official traveling in Europe said men arrested in the alleged ricin plot were linked to Ansar al-Islam, a terrorist group in northern Iraq with ties to al-Qaida and possibly to Saddam Hussein's regime. The official spoke on condition of anonymity.

Four men were arrested in the apartment raid Jan. 5 and charged with attempting to develop a chemical weapon...

Ansar al-Islam is led by an Iraqi Kurd named Nejmeddin Faraj Ahmad (also known as Mullah Krekar) who trained with bin Laden in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Senior al-Qaida leaders fled Afghanistan for Iraq and received safe harbor before Hussein was overthrown by U.S. forces, according to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

On Jan. 27 of last year, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said terrorist detainees from Afghanistan had implicated Iraq in providing training and support to al-Qaida.

In addition, Iraqis were among the detainees captured in Afghanistan...

Fleischer said the U.S. knows Iraq has supported al-Qaida in the past and there have been "contacts between senior Iraqi officials and members of the al-Qaida organization, going back for quite a long time."

"We know, too, that several of the detainees, particularly some of the high-level detainees, have said that Iraq provided some training to al-Qaida and chemical weapons development," said Fleischer. "There are contacts between Iraq and al-Qaida. We know that Saddam Hussein has a long history of terrorism in general. And again, if you are waiting for the smoking gun, the problem is, when you see the smoke coming out of the gun, it's too late; the damage has been done."

Perhaps more interesting is the contention of terrorism expert Laurie Mylroie, author of "The War Against America." She says senior al-Qaida operative Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, captured in Pakistan, is not the man he claims to be. He is actually an Iraqi intelligence agent - a fact that would serve as smoking-gun evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the terror of Sept. 11.

Mylroie, an adjunct fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, explains that Mohammed was captured in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, March 1, 2003, and has been providing interrogators with critical information about al-Qaida operations and ongoing attack plots, according to U.S. officials.

As the operational leader of the al-Qaida terrorist network, Mohammed is said to be the mastermind of the Sept. 11 terror attacks and is thought to have planned the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings and the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000.

Mylroie maintains Mohammed is a Pakistani Baluch, along with Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. The two collaborated with a third Baluch in 1995, Abdul Hakam Murad, in an unsuccessful plot to bomb 12 U.S. airplanes. The plot, called "Project Bojinka," involved ramming a fuel-laden airliner into the Pentagon.

Baluchs are Sunni Muslims who live in the desert regions of eastern Iran and western Pakistan - Baluchistan - and have longstanding ties to Iraqi intelligence. Wafiq Samarrai, former chief of Iraqi military intelligence who defected to the West in 1994, explains that Iraqi intelligence worked with the Baluch during the Iran-Iraq war.

Mylroie said Mohammed, Yousef and Murad, are part of a tight circle...

Their identities are based on documents from Kuwaiti files that predate Kuwait's liberation from Iraqi occupation. These documents form the basis of Mylroie's false-identity theory. When Iraq occupied Kuwait in 1990 and 1991, it used some Kuwaiti files to create false identities for key agents, according to Mylroie.

There is evidence Yousef's file was tampered with. The front pages of his passport, including his picture and signature, are missing. Extraneous information was also inserted: the notation that Yousef and his family left Kuwait on Aug. 26, 1990 - during Iraq's occupation of Kuwait - and traveled through Iraq on their way to Pakistani Baluchistan in Iran.

Mylroie points out people don't provide authorities with itineraries when crossing a border...

She concludes Yousef is an Iraqi agent who assumed the identity of Abdul Basit Karim, a Kuwaiti who disappeared during Iraq's occupation. Records show Yousef entered the U.S. on an Iraqi passport in the name of Ramzi Yousef, but fled on a passport in the name of Abdul Basit Karim.

According to Mylroie, the New York FBI - particularly its director, Jim Fox - believed that the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was an Iraqi intelligence operation.

The Los Angeles Times uncovered critical family ties between Mohammed and Karim...

"What little is known about the sister [of Mohammed]," the paper reported, "includes one compelling piece of information: She is thought to be the mother of Abdul Karim Basit, better known as Ramzi Ahmed Yousef."

Mylroie deduces that Mohammed would know if someone was falsely passing himself off as his nephew, and therefore, must be an Iraqi operative as well.

According to documents, Mohammed was born in Kuwait to Pakistani parents on April 19, 1965. That puts Mohammed just under 38 years of age. Mylroie suggests the graying sideburns and heavy jowls in Mohammed's arrest photo circulated by federal agents belong to someone substantially older than 38.

For what it's worth, the connection between bin Laden and Hussein has also been proven in a court of law to the satisfaction of a federal judge.

Judge Harold Baer awarded families of two victims of the Sept. 11 terror attacks nearly $104 million in damages against Hussein and his Iraqi government along with bin Laden and the Taliban. Baer ruled the plaintiffs had shown that Iraq provided material support to bin Laden and his al-Qaida terror network.

In January, 2003, Baer granted a default judgment to the plaintiffs after defendants failed to respond to the suit. The default order was issued against the Taliban, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, al-Qaida, bin Laden, Hussein and the Republic of Iraq.

The case was brought on behalf of George Eric Smith, 38, a senior business analyst for SunGard Asset Management, and Timothy Soulas, a senior managing director and partner at Cantor Fitzgerald Securities. Last month, the judge heard evidence presented by the plaintiffs' lawyers for two days to help him determine damages. In a written decision filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Baer outlined the damages and his conclusion.

Following the Sept. 11 attacks, Hussein actually stepped up his support of al-Qaida terrorists, according to U.S. military sources. In October 2002, Hussein welcomed dozens of al-Qaida operatives to Iraq, where they were provided with new identities linking them with prominent Iraqi families.

Among the senior al-Qaida operatives in Iraq are Othman Suleiman Daoud, an Afghan national. Daoud was believed based in the Sunni Triangle, north of Baghdad, the focus of the insurgency against the U.S. military.

Another al-Qaida leader in Iraq is Faraj Shaabi, a Libyan national. The sources said Shaabi spent most of the last decade in Sudan until he was ordered by bin Laden to transfer to Iraq.

Meanwhile, last year, a 16-page top secret government memo to the Senate Intelligence Committee revealed bin Laden and Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, as well as financial and logistical support, and may have included the bombing of the USS Cole and the Sept. 11 attacks.

The memo, dated Oct. 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was written in response to a request from the committee as part of its investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the administration. The memo cites reports from a variety of domestic and foreign spy agencies including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, and the Central Intelligence Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources.

The memo reports Hussein's willingness to help bin Laden plot against Americans began in 1990, shortly before the first Gulf War, and continued through his overthrow. It says bin Laden sent ''emissaries to Jordan in 1990 to meet with Iraqi government officials.'' At some unspecified point in 1991, according to a CIA analysis, ''Iraq sought Sudan's assistance to establish links to al-Qaida.''

The primary go-between throughout these early stages was Sudanese strongman Hassan al-Turabi, a leader of the al-Qaida-affiliated National Islamic Front.

A defector reported that ''al-Turabi was instrumental in arranging the Iraqi-al-Qaida relationship." The defector said Iraq sought al-Qaida influence through its connections with Afghanistan, to facilitate the transshipment of proscribed weapons and equipment to Iraq. In return, Iraq provided al-Qaida with training and instructors.

Another man, Mamdouh Mahmud Salim - who's described as the terror lord's ''best friend'' - was involved in planning the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998.

The CIA believes ''fragmentary evidence points to possible Iraqi involvement'' in the bombing of the USS Cole in Oct. 2000, according to the memo.

Two members of al-Qaida were sent to Iraq following the attack on the USS Cole, to be trained in weapons of mass destruction and to obtain information on ''poisons and gases.''

And according to the CIA, in December of 2000, the Saudi National Guard went on alert after learning Saddam agreed to ''assist al-Qaida in attacking U.S./UK interests in Saudi Arabia.''

The report also contains information about meetings between the ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks Mohamed Atta and former Iraqi intelligence chief Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al Ani. The memo says the men met several times in the Czech Republic city of Prague and Iraq authorized the transfer of funds to Atta.

More evidence of the connection was found when Iraq was liberated...

Documents found last year in the bombed-out headquarters of the Mukhabarat, Iraq's secret police, show Hussein brought a bin Laden aide to Baghdad in early 1998 from Osama's former base in Sudan to arrange closer ties, and to seek a meeting with the terror kingpin in person.

Al-Qaida was based in Sudan until 1996, when its leadership moved to Afghanistan after the Sudanese government bowed to pressure from the U.S. to expel bin Laden's terror network.

The paper trail indicates the meeting, which was based on a common hatred of America and Saudi Arabia, apparently went so well it was extended by a week and ended with arrangements being discussed for bin Laden to visit Baghdad.

The documents include a letter containing a message to be relayed to the terrorist leader that would ''relate to the future of our relationship with bin Laden, and achieve a direct meeting with him.'' The documents do not make clear whether the hoped-for meeting between Iraqi officials and bin Laden took place.

The 1998 visit described in the documents took place less than five months before bin Laden became a household name in the West, when Washington zeroed in on him for the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa later that year.

The discovery of the documents coincides with the capture of former Mukhabarat head of operations Farouk Hijazi near the Syrian border. Washington has said Hijazi was Iraq's key link man with al-Qaida, and that he traveled to meet bin Laden in Afghanistan.

Also last year, documents seized by Spanish investigators and turned over to U.S. authorities show an alleged terrorist accused of helping the Sept. 11 conspirators was invited to a party by the Iraqi ambassador to Spain under his al-Qaida pseudonym.

Yusuf Galan, who was photographed being trained at a camp run by bin Laden, is now in jail in Madrid. The indictment against him, drawn up by investigating judge Baltasar Garzon, claims he was "directly involved with the preparation and carrying out of the attacks ... by the suicide pilots on 11 September."

Evidence of Galan's links with Iraqi government officials came to light as investigators pored through more than 40,000 pages of documents seized in raids at the homes of Galan and seven alleged co-conspirators.

While the skeptics are sure to persist - especially in an election year - it is worth noting that Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism official promoting a book critical of the Bush administration and insisting Hussein had no connection to al-Qaida, believed in the link in 1999.

He defended President Clinton's attack on a Sudanese pharmaceutical plant by revealing the U.S. was "sure" it manufactured chemical warfare materials produced by Iraqi experts in cooperation with bin Laden.

Clarke told the Washington Post in a Jan. 23, 1999, story that U.S. intelligence officials had obtained a soil sample from the El Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, which was hit with Tomahawk cruise missiles in retaliation for bin Laden's role in the Aug. 7, 1998, embassy bombings in Africa.

The sample contained a precursor of VX nerve gas, which Clarke said when mixed with bleach and water, would have become fully active VX nerve gas.

Clarke told the Post the U.S. did not know how much of the substance was produced at El Shifa or what happened to it.

"But he said that intelligence exists linking bin Laden to El Shifa's current and past operators, the Iraqi nerve gas experts and the National Islamic Front in Sudan," the paper reported.

More recently, he seems to have forgotten his earlier position, insisting in an interview on "60 Minutes" earlier this year: "There is absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al-Qaida ever."

Just last month, the Wall Street Journal reported that recently translated documents captured by U.S. forces provide new evidence of a direct link between Hussein's regime and the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Rosters of officers in Saddam's Fedayeen list Lt. Col. Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, who was present at the January 2000 al-Qaida "summit" in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, at which the 9-11 attacks were planned, the paper reported.

The Fedayeen was the elite paramilitary group run by Saddam's son Uday, which was deployed to do much of the regime's dirty work.

The U.S. has never been sure Shakir was at the Kuala Lumpur meeting on behalf of Saddam's regime or whether he was an Iraqi Islamist on his own, the Journal notes. While the paper cautioned it is possible the Shakir listed on the rosters is not the Iraqi of the same name with proven al-Qaida connections.

Reported accounts of the al-Qaida planning summit said Shakir had a job at the Kuala Lumpur airport he obtained through an Iraqi intelligence agent at the Iraqi embassy.

Among the al-Qaida operatives in attendance were the two who flew American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon - Khalid al Midhar and Nawaz al Hamzi - and Ramzi bin al Shibh, the operational planner of the 9-11 attacks.

Also in attendance was Tawfiz al Atash, a high-ranking Osama bin Laden lieutenant and mastermind of the USS Cole bombing.

Shakir left Malaysia four days after the summit finished, Jan. 13, 2000, then turned up in Qatar, where he was arrested Sept. 17, 2001, four days after the attacks.

A search uncovered phone numbers of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers' safe houses and contacts and information related to a 1995 al-Qaida plot to blow up a dozen commercial airliners over the Pacific.

But Shakir, inexplicably, was released after a brief detention and flew to Amman, Jordan, where he was arrested again. The Jordanians released him, however, with the OK of the CIA, after pressure from the Iraqis and Amnesty International.

He was last seen returning to Baghdad...

The information supports other journalists
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 30 Oct, 2004 09:02 am
Saddam was about as much a threat to the United States as SpongeBob SquarePants.

The moron in Chief said he was an IMMEDIATE THREAT...one that had to be handled IMMEDIATELY.

The moron in Chief said HE HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION READY TO LOB AT US.

The moron in Chief was wrong.

And so are the people now backing him.


ELECT JOHN KERRY!
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Magus
 
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Reply Sat 30 Oct, 2004 12:56 pm
Frank, waste not thy time in discourse supplying bare facts.
The Cabal doesn't operate based upon facts, they make their moves based upon "Faith".
The BELIEF that there were WMDs was, to them, much more important than any actual manifestation of their allegations.

Last week's NYTimes Sunday Magazine section had an interesting article about Bush's "Faith-based" leadership... and how the Inner Circle's solidarity is being eroded by their realization of the gravity of the situation.
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Xena
 
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Reply Sat 30 Oct, 2004 02:17 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
Saddam was about as much a threat to the United States as SpongeBob SquarePants.

The moron in Chief said he was an IMMEDIATE THREAT...one that had to be handled IMMEDIATELY.

The moron in Chief said HE HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION READY TO LOB AT US.

The moron in Chief was wrong.

And so are the people now backing him.


ELECT JOHN KERRY!


Who looks like the moron? Bush never said immediate threat, you should get your statements right before you go ahead and make an ass of yourself.. If Bush lied all your buddies, including Kerry and Edwards lied. So, that argument is a Democrat talking point that smells of hypocracy.

P.S. The only person who said "imminent" threat regarding Saddam was Edwards..

CNN LATE EDITION WITH WOLF BLITZER

Shelby, Edwards Discuss War in Afghanistan; Taylor Talks About Pearl Murder; Robertson Defends His Comments Against Islam
Aired February 24, 2002 - 12:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

EDWARDS: Well, I don't think we're focused on military options right now, John.

I think it was important, in answer to your last question, it was important for the president to go to the region. I think he did help alleviate some of the concerns that people in that area had about this "axis of evil" comment.

But I do think that the more serious question going forward is, what are we going to do? I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country


"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D - MA), and others Oct. 9,1998


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction.. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real" - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 30 Oct, 2004 03:12 pm
Nevertheless the administration remains duplicious.

WMDs were the justification for war. The senators could only vote based on the intelligence gathered by agencies controlled, and filtered, by the White House.

To think that the current action in Iraq somehow prevents terrorism is ludicrous. As was the idea that a unilateral approach in defiance of the UN would help win the the 'war' on terrorism.

If the US is serious about removing brutal dictators then how about withdrawing your $US500,000,000 aid, and army bases, from Uzbekistan until democracy is installed there? At least Saddam never boiled people alive.... (that I've heard)
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Magus
 
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Reply Sat 30 Oct, 2004 05:17 pm
Xena's post (two posts up) closes with a statement purportedly from Kerry in Jan., 2003 :
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime... he presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation and now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for Weapons of Mass Destruction... so the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."

Kerry's statement was made with him incognizant of the level of compromise and bias behind the "flawed information"/ "faulty intelligence" he was fed.

In retrospect, considering how so many of the American Public WERE deceived... we might edit that statement and delete Saddam's name, inserting George W.'s name instead.

I shudder to think of the consequences should W ever "be blessed" with the notion that Jesus wishes us to strike down the Mahometan with "the fateful lightning of His terrible, swift sword".
( I shudder twice to think that may ALREADY be the case.)
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