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Kerry: Past Treason: Vietnam

 
 
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John Kerry: traitor then; traitor now

Part B. Vietnam War (1970-1971):

After leaving Vietnam early due to his fraudulently-obtained "purple heart" awards, but while still in the navy, in May or June, 1970, Lieutenant Kerry brought his new bride (Julia Thorne) to Paris supposedly on a honeymoon, but secretly met in Paris with delegations from the Viet Cong (PRG) and the communist Hanoi regime (DRV). This was the very enemy that American troops were fighting in Vietnam. In addition to Madame Binh who was in Paris representing the PRG, by his own admission before Congress, John Kerry met with a representative of the North Vietnamese delegation (probably Le Duc Tho). (B-1) The following year Kerry was to espouse the Viet Cong peace proposals set forth at the July 1, 1971 Paris peace talks by Madame Binh as Hanoi's conditions for ending the war (B-2)

In 1971 Kerry joined the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and emceed the Winter Soldier Investigation, both of which were financed by Jane Fonda. "Hanoi" Jane Fonda was not atypical of many anti-war activists, going so far as to tell students at Michigan State University (Nov. 1969), "I think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday be communist." (B-3) On June 29, 1971, according to an FBI report, Kerry praised Vietnam's communist dictator Ho Chi Minh, comparing him to George Washington. (B-3a). As noted by Colonel Oliver North, "The Vietnam Veterans Against the War encouraged people to desert, encouraged people to mutiny - some used what they wrote to justify fragging officers." (B-4)

Kerry became a leader in the VVAW and even testified before Congress on the findings of the supposed Investigation, which he accepted at face value. Kerry liberally used phony veterans and even coerced a few real veterans to testify to atrocities they could not possibly have committed. (B-5) Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 23, 1971, Kerry claimed that U.S. soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam." Kerry later admitted that he never personally witnessed any of these "war crimes." (B-6)

Kerry's words were not his, but provided him by communist sources. According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, "As a spy chief and a general in the former Soviet satellite of Romania, I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe." (B-7)

In a subsequent interview on NBC's "Meet the Press" a few weeks after the Wall Street protest, Kerry admitted that "I committed the same kinds of atrocities as thousands of others, in that I shot in free-fire zones, fired .50-caliber machine bullets, used harass-and interdiction fire, joined in search-and-destroy missions and burned villages." (B-8)

On the day Kerry defamed the troops in his Congressional testimony, he led a VVAW protest demonstration, in which some protesters carried Viet Cong Vietnamese flags, and placards in support of China, Cuba, the U.S.S.R., North Korea and the Hanoi government, and gave the communist upraised, clenched fist salute. "Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh! The Viet Cong are going to win!" the demonstrators chanted in unison to express their total support for America's murderous Communist enemies in Southeast Asia. (B-9)
During this demonstration, VVAW members led by Kerry threw their supposedly earned medals and ribbons over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol. Kerry later admitted the medals he threw were not his. To this day they hang on the wall of his office. (B-10) Kerry later included his accusations against U.S. troops in his now suppressed book entitled the New Soldier which featured on the cover the American flag upside down, carried by hippies dressed as soldiers in a pose mocking the heroic marines at Iwo Jima. (B-11) Kerry even denounced the United States of America as "the real criminal" in the Vietnam War. "Guilty as Lieutenant Calley may have been of the actual act of murder, the verdict does not single out the real criminal . . . the United States of America," railed the future Democratic presidential hopeful. (B-12)

Specifically, the newly discharged Navy veteran was an advocate of the so-called "People's Peace Treaty," a tome reportedly drafted in communist East Germany. It included nine points, all of which were taken from Viet Cong peace proposals at the 1971 Paris peace talks as conditions for ending the war. A key provision of the enemy platform supported by Kerry stated:

"The Vietnamese pledge that as soon as the U.S. government publicly sets a date for total withdrawal [from Vietnam], they will enter discussion to secure the release of all American prisoners, including pilots captured while bombing North Vietnam." (B-13) Pointedly, Kerry also insisted that the United States had a definite obligation to make extensive economic reparations to the "people" [i.e., communist government] of Vietnam. In the end, of course, the American leadership wanted nothing to do with a sham proposition that called for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Vietnam first, followed later by negotiations for the release of prisoners. (B-14)


Kerry's blatant advocacy of the enemy's position occurred while hundreds of captured American fighting men suffered and languished as prisoners of war in North Vietnamese prisons. (B-15) For example, Paul Galanti, a Navy pilot had been shot down in 1966 and spent nearly seven years as a prisoner of war. Like other POWs, Galanti learned of Kerry's [1971] speech while held captive inside North Vietnam's infamous "Hanoi Hilton' prison."

"During torture sessions, he said, his captors cited the antiwar speeches as 'an example of why we should cross over to [their] side.'" [P] "'The Viet Cong didn't think they had to win the war on the battlefield,' Galanti said, 'because thanks to these protestors they were going to win it on the streets of San Francisco and Washington.'" [P] He says Kerry broke a covenant among servicemen never to make public criticisms that might jeopardize those still in battle or in the hands of the enemy." [P] "Because he did, Galanti said, 'John Kerry was a traitor to the men he served with.'" [P] "'I don't plan to set it aside. I don't know anyone who does,' he said. 'The Vietnam memorial has thousands of additional names due to John Kerry and others like him.'"
(B-16)


As noted in an introductory review of a book by North Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap, "Politically, the Vietnamese [communists] always believed in the importance of the anti-war movement…They encouraged it as best they could, knowing that creating a climate of opinion hostile to the war would be one important way of ending it. In the end, their victory was accelerated by Congress' refusal to vote more aid. That refusal was a response to a climate of public opinion which the anti-war movement helped to forge." (B-17) Interviewed in a Time/Life documentary, "The Ten Thousand Day War," Giap reiterated this point and gave credit for the Communist victory to the U.S. media and protestors like Jane Fonda and John Kerry. (B-18)


General Giap himself referred to the American "New Left" protesters, a name used by the FBI to refer to the SDS, the John Kerry-led VVAW, and the Weatherman terrorists. Giap used news accounts of the "New Left's" protests to motivate his troops when his troops were ready to quit fighting Americans. (The primary "New Left" leaders were Hanoi Jane Fonda, Hanoi Tom Hayden, and Hanoi John Kerry). Giap "especially used the Kerry group to motivate his troops because he [mistakenly] believed the Kerry led group represented actual American Veterans of the Vietnam war, and their antiwar position greatly motivated his communist troops to continue to fight and kill Americans." (B-19) In effect, this was saying that if it weren't for organizations like Kerry's Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Hanoi would have surrendered to the U.S.


This agrees with the observations of NVA Colonel Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and who accepted the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975. During the interview Mr. Tin was asked if the American antiwar movement was important to Hanoi's victory. Mr. Tin responded "It was essential to our strategy" referring to the war being fought on two fronts, the Vietnam battlefield and back home in America through the antiwar movement on college campuses and in the city streets. He further stated the North Vietnamese leadership listened to the American evening news broadcasts "to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement." Visits to Hanoi made by persons such as Jane Fonda, former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and various church ministers "gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses." Mr. Tin surmised that "America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win." (B-20)

According to Giap, along with the anti-war movement, [the left-wing media's] distorted reports were inspirational to the NVA. CBS anchor-man Walter Cronkite and others falsely created the impression that Hanoi was achieving military victories when it had not even won a battle, and that American casualties were far higher than was actually the case at the time. As a result, the Hanoi regime "changed their plans from a negotiated surrender and decided instead, they only needed to persevere for one more hour, day, week, month, eventually the protesters in American would help them to achieve a victory they knew they could not win on the battlefield. Remember, this decision was made at a time when the U.S. casualties were fewer than 10,000, at the end of 1967, beginning of 1968. Today, there are 58,000 names on the Vietnam Wall Memorial that was built with the donations made by the American public. Although Giap did not mention each and every protester's name in his book, many of us will never forget the 58,000 names on the Wall. We will also never forget the names of those who helped in placing those additional 48,000 names there: Bill, Jane, Tom, Cronkite, and others." (B-21)

Vietnamese communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Crimes Museum for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States. The sign outside the entrance to the room where Kerry's photo is displayed reads: "The World Supports Vietnam in its Resistance." Also exhibited inside the room are protest banners and emblems from various nations and photographs of international leaders who supported North Vietnam's cause. (B-22) Mr. Lupetti also photographed a picture honoring Jane Fonda, who stands next to Nguyen Thi Dinh, deputy commander of the Viet Cong. (B-23)

"From 1969 to the end of the war over 20,000 American soldiers lost their lives in a war that the United States did not have the resolve to win. If General Giap was accurate in his assessment that North Vietnam was going to seek a conditional surrender at the Paris Peace Conference, but stopped due to the sensationalism of the American news media and the anti-war protests following the 1968 Tet Offensive, it follows that those who participated in these anti-war activities have to share partial responsibility for those 20,000 + Americans deaths." (B-24) In addition, thanks to Kerry, Fonda, and others, more than 130,000 Vietnamese took to the boats, a million more fled overland, and more than 750,000 were forced into "re-education camps." Next door in Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge's reign of terror claimed 2,000,000 lives. (B-25)


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Endnotes for Part B:

B-1: See Congressional Record, April 22, 1971, U.S. Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations, Wash., D.C.; see also "John Kerry's secret meeting with the enemy," by Jerome R. Corsi, World Net Daily, October 8, 2004, © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com .

B-2: See Marc Morano, CNS News.com, Thursday, May 20, 2004, citing Kerry's own testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 22, 1971; see also "John Kerry's secret meeting with the enemy," by Jerome R. Corsi, World Net Daily, October 8, 2004, © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com .

B-3: See "John Kerry's Trail of Treachery," WinterSoldier.com., April 8, 2004

B-3a: See "Kerry praised Ho Chi Minh!," by Joseph Farah, World Net Daily, August 16, 2004.

B-4: See "Kerry's Past Is Disturbing On Many Levels," by Frank Salvato, www.americandaily.com, March 10, 2004

B-5: See "Seared in My Memory," Mackubin T. Owens, National Review On Line, September 20, 2004; see also "Vet: Kerry coerced me to testify of atrocities," World Net Daily, September 8, 2004.

B-6: See "'Hanoi John' Kerry Threatens America's Survival," Jewish Task Force, February 18, 2004.

B-7: See "Kerry's Soviet Rhetoric," by Ion Mihai Pacepa, National Review on Line, February 26, 2004.

B-8: See "Q: Were John Kerry's anti-Vietnam War efforts unpatriotic?", Ted Sampley, Insight Magazine, May 17, 2004

B-9: See "'Hanoi John' Kerry Threatens America's Survival," Jewish Task Force, February 18, 2004.

B-10: See "Q: Were John Kerry's anti-Vietnam War efforts unpatriotic?", Ted Sampley, Insight Magazine, May 17, 2004 .

B-11: See "Website Exposes Kerry's 1971 Antiwar Book, Activities" By Jeff Gannon, Talon News; February 24, 2004.

B-12: See "Kerry Denounced U.S. as 'The Real Criminal' in Vietnam", Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, Feb. 15, 2004, citing the Baltimore Sun, Feb. 14, 2004, and New York Times reports in 1971.

B-13: See Congressional Record, April 22, 1971, U.S. Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations, Wash., D.C.; "Joint Treaty of Peace Between the People of The United States of America, South Vietnam and North Vietnam", provision 2.

B-14: See "Why Families Say Kerry Betrayed POWs and MIAs," by Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com, Friday, Feb. 13, 2004.

B-15: See "Vietnam POWs Say Kerry's Words and Deeds Were Used by Guards to Torture Them," by Richard Tomkins, Insight, Aug. 4, 2004.)

B-16: See "Comments of former POW Paul Galanti," as reported by John M. Gilonne of the Los Angeles Times, Feb. 17, 2004", http://www.powmiafamiliesagainstjohnkerry.com/formerpows/formerpows.htm; "POWs blast Kerry in TV documentary," by Art Moore, World Net Daily, August 24, 2004.

B-17: See Introductory essay "The Fall of Washington," by Danny Schechter, summarizing an English translation of a 1985 book by North Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap, "How We Won the War," cited in "The POWs Speak" by Jed Babbin, American Spectator, 9/7/2004, and 9/27/04.

B-18: See reviews of Time/Life documentary "The Ten Thousand Day War" posted (1) by Daniel Ingham, at www.wintersoldier.com, June 03 2004; (2) by Edward O'Daniel, August 28, 2004, at CNET.com, http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-6130-0.html?forumID=50&threadID=34789&messageID=402027; (3) by Mary Jane McManus, wife of Vietnam POW Kevin McManus, Sep 23rd, 2004, at http://www.redstate.org/print/2004/9/23/95036/1144; also cf. Maclear, Michael. The Ten Thousand Day War, Vietnam: 1945-1975. New York: St. Martin's, 1981.

B-19: See "The Viet Cong Candidate: The Connection between N. Vietnamses Communist Commander General Giap and Hanoi John Kerry," © Copyright 2004, by DGV Reiman, all rights reserved.)

B-20: See "How They Won the War: General Bui Tin Describes North Vietnam's Victory," taken from The Wall Street Journal, Thursday August 3, 1995.

B-21: See Gene Kuentzler, '66-67, S-3 Operations, http://www.war-stories.com.

B-22: See "Kerry honored at communist museum," 2004 WorldNetDaily.com, June 1, 2004; "More evidence communists honoring Kerry," 2004 WorldNetDaily.com, June 15, 2004; "Kerry's Photo Raises Eyebrows in Museum in Ho Chi Minh City." by Josh Gerstein, New York "Sun," August 16, 2004.

B-23: See "John Kerry, the war protester, honored by Communist Vietnamese officials as a hero in their victory over the United States in the Vietnam War," May 31, 2004, Vietnam Vets for the Truth, http://www.kerrylied.com.

B-24: See http://www.1stcavmedic.com/tet_offensive_of_1968.htm.

B-25: See"The Kerry Files, II," by Hugh Hewitt, The Weekly Standard, 2/19/2004.


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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2004 05:36 pm
George Bush is a goddamn moron and a traitor to this country. He has lied, and thousands have died.

This election is about NOW, not yesterday. Kerry is going to be our next president and hopefully fix what Bush has completely destroyed in American credibility.

Kerry's protests during the Vietnam war brought it to and end, and brought our boys home. No matter how much crap neoconservatives continue to barf at the American public, it has only emboldened those who see Bush for what he really is:

A traitor.

Good riddance Bush.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2004 05:49 pm
Huh. I don't even see Bush's name mentioned in dhudlud37's post.

He certainly does bring out the best in some of the liberals here.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2004 05:51 pm
And Kerry brings out the liars in force. Oh well. Bush lies, Cheney lies, and so do his supporters it would seem.

No surprise here.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2004 05:55 pm
Point out the lies Dookie. Do something besides blab on and on about the poster for a change.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2004 05:58 pm
I don't have to, McGentrix, as we have all pointed these lies out time and time again. I'm sorry your memory is so short.

But then that would be awfully convenient for ya. Hell, Reagan used that tactic.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2004 05:58 pm
One only has to see "newsmax.com" in the footnotes to know where all the bullshit is coming from.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2004 06:12 pm
I am endlesssly fascinated by the amazing view that speaking out about wrong done by one's country constitutes treason.
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