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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 05:37 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
There's a 2.3L stock Ford Focus that has more torque and hp than muscle cars of 'ole.

Not possible.
TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 06:14 pm
@farmerman,
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(kind of ironic, it was right after ground hog day the guvnah signed the bill).

Possibly this was because the inaccurate prognosticator deserved it.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 06:33 pm
@McGentrix,
I used to own a Jag XKe, a Porsche RSK and a TVR Tuscan. We had a hill climbing team . I grew up qnd hqd kids but still was a moderate gearhead. I went into major hock acquiring a bunch of Cougar Xr-& convertibles with Clevelnd And Windsor 351, which I had a guy in the Pwnke team up in Reading Pa design for me n take it to the mill (I would always hqve an engine balqnced as a get out the door.\

My last cougar was a boss 302 (which was a standard block for lots of diff cars). AS Ive aged I had all kinds of trucks most of which I further tricked. The reason I say, is that all of themm took lots of applied technology to bring specs up in ways besides just boring/balancing and de-flywheeling nd GFE.
My jeep and my 06 Ford Escape hybrid SUV still give me great off- road pleasure.(The jeep not so much as I fucked up something big time when I wound up bout 1/2 mile of barbd wire around the front diff while visiting an old iron mine in West Va. Its sitting in the barn waiting for a trip to Manheim Pa
Im slowly declining . I bought a major "golf cart last summer and now, Im qbout ready to slap down 8500 for a skanky little bug eye sprite which our own Leadfoot gave me the idea about dropping in a WAnkel.(I can make it work with minimal boobage on the hood) and a major conversion kit
Ya cant make the horses quit wanting to run even when they turn 66.(my age till next december) .
But the article Id seen stated as an engineering solution ( building high torque RAT ROD tech), that a functional limit to Bhp is about 325 to 335per liter of displacement.
With the proper Power Plant qnd body fibre/balance /weight. suspenion. " even a brick can fly".

My real joy comes with painting up these things.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 06:35 pm
@maporsche,
Porsches are a favorite car for driving. My RSK would set records at several Pa Hillclimbs in the late 70's
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maporsche
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 07:14 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

maporsche wrote:
There's a 2.3L stock Ford Focus that has more torque and hp than muscle cars of 'ole.

Not possible.


Quite possible.

2016 Ford Focus RS
350 hp
350 lb/ft of torque (peaking a 3200rpm)
4 cylinder inline engine (turbocharged)
2.3L displacement (yes, 2.3 liters)
0-60 in 4.7 seconds
165mph top speed

Can a souped up muscle car beat it? In a straight line...sure can (no way on a track though). But this is pretty damn quick for a stock car.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 08:53 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
2016 Ford Focus RS
350 hp
350 lb/ft of torque (peaking a 3200rpm)
4 cylinder inline engine (turbocharged)
2.3L displacement (yes, 2.3 liters)
0-60 in 4.7 seconds
165mph top speed

A lightly-modified Hemi or L88 would put out nearly 500 horsepower and nearly 500 lb/ft of torque and do a quarter mile in about 11.4 seconds.


maporsche wrote:
But this is pretty damn quick for a stock car.

Have there been any figures on how well the Ecoboost Mustang is selling compared to the naturally-aspirated V8?
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 08:59 pm
@maporsche,
I know the 429 was tested to put out well over 500hp and around 450 lb ft of torque. But, I am no gear head. I have just always loved the lines of the 302's and the 429's. When the new line of 302's came out I tried really hard to convince my wife I was worth the expense. She muttered something about kids going to college and pft...
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maporsche
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 10:01 pm
@oralloy,
A lightly modified Focus RS has 450lb feet of torque. Still the same 2.3L engine.

https://www.google.com/amp/jalopnik.com/this-is-how-much-power-the-ford-focus-rs-really-has-bef-1787705534/amp


You can admit it man and not lose your childhood....pretty damn impressive.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 10:20 pm
@maporsche,
Any data on quarter mile ETs?
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Mar, 2017 05:31 am
@oralloy,
This page doesn't have the Ford Focus RS, but the only Ford in their entire list to do the quarter mile in under 12 seconds is the 2005 Ford GT with a time of 11.780:
http://myquartermile.com./qtrmile.php?make=Ford

And the 1969 Camaro ZL1 still beats it at 11.680:
http://myquartermile.com/qtrmile.php?make=Chevrolet


A modern car that regularly goes under 12 seconds is the Lamborghini Gallardo:
http://myquartermile.com/qtrmile.php?make=Lamborghini

Interestingly older Lamborghinis like the Diablo and Countach are not nearly as fast. But with the Gallardo, Lamborghini finally managed to catch up with the 1969 Camaro ZL1.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 05:53 am
@oralloy,
Lanborghini moels were an entire family of cars, not just one model. The COuntach Quattrovalvole had a consistent 0-100 under 10 seconds and a true top speed of 185. The ZL1 (2017) hqs a " model top speed " of 195 but I kinda doubt it,. iT has a high drag coefficient over 4 (like the old Quattravalvole, hich, even by it forward look, had a high drag number). It woulda reached over 200 mph if it had a mor aerodynamic body
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 05:57 am
@farmerman,
Turns out that cars shaped like Audis are more aerodynamically advanced than the old ferraris and Lambos. The Veryon tried to look more like a Jellybean so itd jack down it Cf
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 06:16 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Lanborghini moels were an entire family of cars, not just one model. The COuntach Quattrovalvole had a consistent 0-100 under 10 seconds and a true top speed of 185.

Any available quarter mile times?


farmerman wrote:
The ZL1 (2017) hqs a " model top speed " of 195 but I kinda doubt it,.

The modern ZL1 is not worthy of the name. The 1969 ZL1 is the one that did the quarter mile in the neighborhood of 11.5 seconds.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 06:20 am
@oralloy,
naaah, the Italian car makers dont drag race much
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 06:21 am
@oralloy,
what was the top speed of the 1969 ZL1??
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 07:24 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
what was the top speed of the 1969 ZL1??

I have no idea.

It might be possible to calculate an estimate based on the quarter mile times in the neighborhood of 11.5 seconds, but I don't know the right formulas to do it.


I was given an incredible ride in a potent muscle car when I was a kid. Back in the '80s my aunt dated a guy who made a lot of money transporting certain illicit substances across the border into Canada. The police need not worry if they read this, he didn't make it out of the '80s alive, and his ill-gotten gains are long gone. And for that matter the police knew who he was back when he was alive; they could just never prove it in court. Anyway, he gave me a ride once in his "outrun the cops" car.

It was a MOPAR of some sort with a 340 small block. My dad (a mechanical engineer in the auto industry) had helped him rebuild the engine so all the parts meshed with very high precision. Or something like that. (I'm *not* a mechanical engineer in the auto industry, so might not have that exactly right.)

But anyway, wow. That ride is still seared into my memory. The speedometer only went to 120, and we left 120 way behind. Then there was this S-curve with an intersection in the middle, with the curves rated for 35 MPH. He backed off to 90 MPH on the curves. There was a van stopped at the intersection with some sort of church lady in it, and we simultaneously passed on a double yellow line and ran the stop sign at over 100 MPH. I got a brief glimpse of the church lady clutching her chest like she was having a heart attack. I suppose she got a brief glimpse of a little kid with a huge grin on his face.

When we took those 35 MPH curves at 90 I was a bit worried. There were no shoulder belts in that car, and the bench-seat lap seatbelt was way too lose to hold me securely. I don't know how that car held the road, but on one of the curves the centrifugal force pinned me against the door so hard that I couldn't move. I remember thinking I was dead if the door came open and ejected me. I struggled to somehow stop pushing against the door with such force, to no avail. Luckily the door stayed shut anyway.

That engine was LOUD too.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 08:15 am
My uncle was a big car guy. He raced dirt track stock cars in his spare time. I too, as a small kid, got to enjoy a ride or two. He loved doing the dollar bill test.

Tape a dollar bill to the dash and I'd have like 7 seconds to try to reach it after he said "Go!" and punched the accelerator. I'd be stuck to the back of the seat and never did get that dollar bill. He had a modded Corvette and a Ford or Buick thing with the blowers coming through the hood.
camlok
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 10:52 am
@McGentrix,
A whole phuckin' dollar! Gee, what a generous uncle.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 10:55 am
@camlok,
when he was a kid, you could buy a slave for a dollar
camlok
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 10:58 am
@oralloy,
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but I don't know the right formulas to do it.

It was a MOPAR of some sort with a 340 small block.

(I'm *not* a mechanical engineer in the auto industry, so might not have that exactly right.)


That goes a long way to explaining your overall incompetence at explaining anything, ever.
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