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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 12:36 pm
Moss?! No way! Shocked

I can see why Brett would want him -- Moss always seems to have his best games against the Packers.

I'm against it though, for a couple of reasons. The main thing is Moss' work ethic, or lack thereof. I just don't think Brett will be able to influence that, and I think that will lead to frustration all around. (Brett trying to knock some sense into Moss, Moss not appreciating the knocking and getting all sullen, etc., etc.)

I think Moss' moment has passed. He's a guy who had great athletic potential but his (horrible) personality just got in the way. I think the time for that potential to go somewhere serious is already gone, and it'd be a waste of time, energy, and money for the Packers to take him on.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 06:46 pm
So he have conflicting reactions. Sozobe, once again is the voice of reason, analyzing every possible angle and making an intelligent decision based on what she believes is best for the team, while Bill simply says, "Hell, yeah, toss that bad boy out there. Hey! Somebody grab me a beer!"

Thanks for the responses and would someone be kind enough to explain to me how wandel jumped into the mix.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 07:21 pm
Wandel conveiniently forgot the Pack was kicking the snot out of the Bears long before they rested anyone. Oh, and Soz is uncharacteristically wrong. Moss shined under Chris Carter's tutelage... and no one could resist the omni-powerful Lambeau Love after their first Lambeau Leap. Moss would probably spend most of his time doing charity drives when he wasn't catching touchdowns, studying for his Doctorate or working to end terrorism and world hunger as we know it.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 07:33 pm
I've always said that a Favre-Moss combination would have been one of the most deadly long ball tandems in the history of the league, but that was when they were in their prime. Favre is now a shell and Moss has lost a step. They might hook up on a few passes, but, for now, it is simply a dream of days gone by, wishful thinking if you may, and I could really care less if Moss ended up in Green Bay.

Let's call it his retirement home.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 07:45 pm
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
Thanks for the responses and would someone be kind enough to explain to me how wandel jumped into the mix.


Sorry, everyone! I wandered here by mistake.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2007 08:15 pm
Laughing

Bill, I'd love it if that happened but I just don't see it. Moss isn't motivated by positivity, that's boring to him. He gets motivated in Lambeau field as an outsider, shutting up all those damn Cheeseheads. (Gus can maybe relate.) He's opposititional, hate-fuelled. Lambeau love might last a quarter or two but then he's going to make some stupid mistake and they'll hold him accountable and that'll be it. He'll convince himself that he doesn't care what they think, anyway.

Even with Cris Carter Moss never really got that far -- he had his flashes of brilliance but he never was able to put together any sustained, consistent performance. And just occasional flashes of brilliance -- without reliability -- will piss off Brett to no end.

That's assuming Moss still has it and I agree with Gus that he's just too old for this. Brett plus a fresh new breakout talent = fabulous. Brett plus an old cranky couldabeen-a-superstar-if-he'd-ever-gotten-his-****-together with a horrible work ethic and a high price tag = disaster.

IMO.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 07:34 pm
moss will be catching footballs in Foxborough MAthis year.

he will have to change his ways if he wants to play for Belichick...
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patiodog
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 07:38 pm
Randy Moss for a 4th round pick. Who'd've thunk that five years ago?
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 07:45 pm
i guess the raiders were desperate.

he's only 30, so he should have 4 or 5 more good seasons in him...
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patiodog
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 07:56 pm
Didn't have any in Oakland.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 07:58 pm
Thanks Region, I meant to note that.

I'm ecstatic.

I don't know if the Packers have any particular chance without him, either, but really glad they didn't take him.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 01:35 pm
    [b][size=20]Brett Favre Demands Trade To 1996 Packers[/b][/size] May 17, 2007 | Onion Sports [img]http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Brett-Favre_1.jpg[/img] GREEN BAY?-Three-time MVP and undisputed future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre, disappointed with the Packers' refusal to aggressively pursue receiver Randy Moss and frustrated with his team's apparent indifference to making immediate improvements on offense, is demanding a trade to the team he feels will give him the best shot at winning a last Super Bowl ring before his retirement: the 1996 Green Bay Packers. "I just don't think this Packer team, and GM Ted Thompson especially, is thinking in terms of winning with me," said Favre, speaking to reporters at his charity golf tournament in Mississippi Sunday. "On the other hand, 1996 Packers GM Ron Wolf is committed to building the team completely around me. I don't think it's out of the question to say that with me behind center, the 1996 Packers are looking at going all the way to the Super Bowl." Early reports had indicated that Favre was so upset that his team failed to close a draft-day deal for Randy Moss with the Oakland Raiders that his agent called Packers GM Ted Thompson and requested a trade to a team with capable receivers. "Nothing against Donald [Driver] and Greg [Jennings], but if I can't throw it to Randy Moss, then I want to throw it to Antonio Freeman, Robert Brooks, and Don Beebe," Favre said. "I bet with them, I'd have more of a chance of throwing for, say, 3,899 yards and 39 touchdowns, with maybe as few as 13 interceptions. Who knows? That kind of production could even get me another MVP award, although of course that's much less important than leading the '96 Pack to another Super Bowl victory." Favre also noted that, unlike the young and unproven 2007 Packers, the 1996 Packers boasted seasoned veterans on both sides of the ball. "It sure would be great to play alongside Reggie White again?-I get chills just thinking about seeing him in the locker room," Favre said. "That whole '96 defense is great, too. Santana Dotson is a force in the middle. That LeRoy Butler, I tell you, he's one of the most underrated safeties in the game. Desmond Howard isn't a bad kick returner, either. And unlike the Packer backfield I got now, the '96 Packers still feature William Henderson at fullback." "Mark Chmura, though, I don't know," Favre admitted. "Decent tight end, but something about him isn't quite right." In addition to the more elite personnel, Favre praised the aggressive attitude of the coaching squad and front office of the Packers of 1996, saying he was a fan of head coach Mike Holmgren's West Coast offense and Wolf's aggressive recruiting strategies. "I think Holmgren and I would make an interesting team," Favre said. "He could teach me a lot. We could learn from each other. And I know Ron Wolf would have my back. If, say, our number-one receiver gets knocked out for the season in Week 7, I believe Wolf would go right after a great veteran free agent, like maybe Andre Rison, to give us an edge in the playoffs. I can almost guarantee that." "It would really be something," Favre said. "We'd be one of the all-time great teams, a once-in-a-lifetime thing, you know? I'm going to have my agent look into it right away." Although the Packers had no immediate comment, head coach Mike McCarthy said the team would be "heartbroken" to part with its greatest player, although in deference to Favre's long service, and for the good of the current team, they would be willing to consider a trade package including a first-round pick in the 2008 NFL draft and the 1996 Brett Favre.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 02:15 pm
Laughing You can't blame him. Ever since Wolf departed they've been building so called run to set up the pass teams; and that's opposite of what the team needs, the fans want, and the single greatest quarterback in history deserves.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 03:04 pm
Brett Favre Demands Trade To 1996 Packers
The Onion...they're funny Laughing
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 03:08 pm
http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Brett-Favre_1.jpg

Is it just me or is Brett Favre starting to resemble fecal matter?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 04:21 pm
panzade wrote:
Brett Favre Demands Trade To 1996 Packers
The Onion...they're funny Laughing
Good to see ya, Panz.

OK Gus, not his best shot.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 02:33 am
Back at ya Bill...I really think the Cheesehead Nation needs to let Brett go.

It's not about him anymore...the front office is trying to build a team for the future
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 10:07 am
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Brett-Favre_1.jpg

Is it just me or is Brett Favre starting to resemble fecal matter?




If by fecal matter you mean a quarterback who routinely shreds Minnesota's defense then yes, he looks like a huge pile of ****.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 04:39 pm
I'm changing my answer to Gargamel's...

No way Panz; he's still the man and decisions that don't reflect that are poor decisions.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 04:42 pm
Gargamel gets pretty defensive when someone attacks Favre.
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